Rise of Streamers in Online Gambling - page 11.

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Quote from: bittraffic on July 28, 2022, 09:15:53 AM

^ So as they say, they were employed and they are playing the casino's money.
Their job seem easy to do though. And thats waht I'm more interested to do, become a streamer myself and get paid hired by a casino than trying out what they advertise.

Slot is easy to play and addicting, thats why its among the top. Grand thef I can understand since its fun, teens like it.

Exactly.

I mean, that's 2 birds in 1 stone. You get the chance to try their slots while playing using their money and being paid at the same time, who wouldn't want that. But of course being a streamer ain't that easy that could be achieved overnight, unless a famous streamer plugged you in his stream.

I think the reason why online casinos are making such move is that because online gambling became the new normal mode of playing gambling instead of going to a physical casino.

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I am very sceptical when it comes to streamers from the gambling section. There are at any time quite a lot of people on twitch streaming and it seems they are much luckier than I am. I don't mind them winning large amounts, but somehow I always question myself if this is real. In the past I followed a few of the big poker streamers playing tournaments and noticed that there performance is not exceptional good. Sure they had some good days making decent money, there were also terrible days. In the end it seemed that a lot of the money they make comes twitch rather than gambling. It was more about their personality and engaging with the chat and viewers than about making money. That's why when I see large winnings from a streamer I worry about them having a promotion deal with the casino that gives them free money to gamble more reckless.

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Quote from: robelneo on July 30, 2022, 08:12:10 AM

Quote from: Coin_trader on July 28, 2022, 08:58:19 AM

As you notice in the chart, Slots Channel got more viewers than other famous games such as Fortnite and CS:GO. This starts during pandemic which many streamers shift from online gaming to the onlime gambling category.

Many famous Casino is now doing partnership on different streamers. So in conclusion, Streamers contributes a lot on the increase of popularity of online gambling.

Chart Source: Twitchtracker.com

Stats don't lie and there are reasons why slots reached that level because of the pandemic where people are on lockdown and they have to find ways to make life still exciting while at home and playing online is the preferred choice streamers are turning to online gambling to promote their games because they have the data and the request coming from casinos to stream their games, but I also believe there's some manipulation going on because many of these streamers are showing good results to entice people to join, deposit and play.

Actually the statistics that I post on this thread based on the last 7 days number of viewers on Twitch which slots is gaining attention and climbing the leaderboard to beat popular games.Slots is sitting on same percentage of viewership which means it has a consistent number of viewers compared to other games that keeps changing the number of viewers. I guess slots streamers is having a good pay check on most of there streams due to this steady number of fans supporting them. Casino giveaways might be the reason too why it's attracting a lot of viewer to watch and stay to this kind of stream.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on July 28, 2022, 08:58:19 AM

As you notice in the chart, Slots Channel got more viewers than other famous games such as Fortnite and CS:GO. This starts during pandemic which many streamers shift from online gaming to the onlime gambling category.

Many famous Casino is now doing partnership on different streamers. So in conclusion, Streamers contributes a lot on the increase of popularity of online gambling.

Chart Source: Twitchtracker.com

Stats don't lie and there are reasons why slots reached that level because of the pandemic where people are on lockdown and they have to find ways to make life still exciting while at home and playing online is the preferred choice streamers are turning to online gambling to promote their games because they have the data and the request coming from casinos to stream their games, but I also believe there's some manipulation going on because many of these streamers are showing good results to entice people to join, deposit and play.

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Quote from: decodx on July 30, 2022, 06:57:58 AM

This problem has existed for as long as casino streaming itself and I think there's no sure way of determining whether a streamer is gambling with real money unless you have full insight into his finances. If you see the money that a streamer is spending in a short period of time, it's very clear that he's not gambling for real money all the time.

Honestly, is that even matter if the streamer is using their own money or not on their streaming videos about gambling?

What if they are using their own money?
What if they are not using their own money?
What would be the feedback?

What I'm saying is, regardless if the stream was sponsored or not, the main purpose is creating content which is the main purpose of any streamer as they are trying to gather more views for their videos. More views = more profit = more revenue.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on July 29, 2022, 01:06:45 PM

I don't really care to watch streamers streaming slot games from a casino or a gambling site but I am surprised that slots are in the top list. My thoughts is because casinos want to make their casino be known to many using social media platforms and even partnering up with streamers then both side can achieve their goal where the streamers earn and the casino is advertised. It's a win-win situation for both party. It's business after all.

I don't watch them too. I think Drake was the only one I watched and it was fun, I admit it, because the guy is a joker, but apart from that, I wouldn't start playing a game because a streamer does it. Some people must be doing it though, otherwise casinos wouldn't be paying those streamers so much money.
I also think the stats are fake. Come on, slots? Slots aren't that entertaining. Maybe if they were playing pc shooters like CoD for money people would watch them. Who wants to see an online slot machine rolling? Cheesy

Streamers is part of the marketing strategy of the gambling casinos to gain more player with their platform mostly the streamers are giving away a coupon and discounted deposits so the player encourages more to play because it is cheap instead of they are the one who makes a deposit at the same time if the player sees the odds of the game is in favour with the player they will catch their attention to play too at the same time to try their luck the same as they watch. Also it is good if the streamers are responsible and assisting those players who have concerns and issues because they are partnered with them.

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This problem has existed for as long as casino streaming itself and I think there's no sure way of determining whether a streamer is gambling with real money unless you have full insight into his finances. If you see the money that a streamer is spending in a short period of time, it's very clear that he's not gambling for real money all the time.

In order to avoid fraudulent affiliates promoting rogue casinos, we must use common sense and feel out the situation to determine whether this person is truly putting his money where his mouth is. We must learn to recognize warning signs.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 29, 2022, 08:48:29 PM

Quote from: n0ne on July 29, 2022, 06:59:49 PM

This is kind of promotion for different platforms. In the past we used to see YouTube videos for the streamers making money and try their strategies. Now this has turned to be a way of promoting respective platforms and get paid. If we look upon the streamers it looks like they're spending big and making big money. The reality, they're funded by the gambling platforms and they play without the fear of losing which for sure brings in profit.

I think it's either the company hire them or this Youtubers just decided to go to other platforms and then promotions just started coming. So it's easy for them to make money and then promote the casinos. And maybe the casino too is feeding them with money so that they can able to sustain their play in live audience with huge bet on the screens. And that's why they are not afraid to go with max bets and not fear of losing because it's not their money anyway.

By using this strategy of hiring Youtubers as a promotional medium for the casino, they will be able to get a lot of advantages in getting more visitors to the casino. We know that Youtube, the largest streaming video, has a very large number of visitors, so by using Youtubers, casinos can develop their business to be bigger. Youtubers may use their money to get more views and attract more people.

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Quote from: ultrloa on July 29, 2022, 06:28:10 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on July 29, 2022, 06:06:47 PM

I think its popularity has brought due to the interest of many on actual casinos and how this game works.
Aside from being fun, it is really enjoyable just to watch a streamer that plays with a slot and other gambling games too.
So, those money that they show to their audience or viewers, it is intriguing and attracting whether they are for real or not.

Yes that it is since the number of users who want to enjoy online that's why they see a opportunity to earn that's why we see them participate on promoting a gambling site at the moment. It's really fun to see them playing because we can get an idea with them on the style they are using because we could replicate it and have fun to, but what bad thing their if the influencer is just hyping certain casino and offer to good to be true to their audience then they are not really fun to watch.

Sadly, too many people not just gamblers are relying on streamers that they follow. Those influencers/streamers, whatever they tell the avid fans are going to do whatever it is.
The hype is for real for these influencers and that's why most of the times, those that has a huge following for their specific niche are getting paid a lot because of what they can do.

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Quote from: nullama on July 30, 2022, 02:38:14 AM

Quote from: Eternad on July 29, 2022, 04:31:06 AM

Quote from: boltz on July 29, 2022, 04:15:47 AM

There is already a big storm on Reddit and some official discord of those big streamers. They said clearly that they don't want to promote this stuff but they are being paid to well to not accept the deal. Per example , TrainwrecksTV is making a ton of money everyday he streams slots on Twitch and the sames goes for XQC when he streams but they became addicts without even notice this and they lost a lot of money from their own pocket as well. At this point I suppose none of them really wants to stop streaming or playing slots and also Twich policy cannot do anything against this. I mean ...they have hot tubs and all that but Twitch was designed by gamers for gamers.

I watch the story of XQC he lost everything that he earned on gambling and decided to take a break and promise to not do gambling again but here he are again streaming and gambling as if nothing happened to them. This gambling promotion by streamer is a double edge sword for them because they will become addicted eventually if they are continuously playing slots on there streams as part of there daily life.

Well, I'm not sure if they are making more money by being paid to advertise the casino.

You never know actually what's the real amount of money flowing there. They might gamble a bit just for the show, but in reality they might be earning a lot by the money the casinos pay them for advertising them.

We can hint that they streamers, especially influential could have been making money advertising those casinos.

So yeah, we may never know the real numbers on how much they are earning. But the point is that for sure, these guys are being paid. Maybe there were agreements about the money that they are going to win, perhaps percentage, or as others suggested, casino giving them money to play and then the winnings split. There are a lot of ways they could earn big from their promotions.

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Quote from: Eternad on July 29, 2022, 04:31:06 AM

Quote from: boltz on July 29, 2022, 04:15:47 AM

There is already a big storm on Reddit and some official discord of those big streamers. They said clearly that they don't want to promote this stuff but they are being paid to well to not accept the deal. Per example , TrainwrecksTV is making a ton of money everyday he streams slots on Twitch and the sames goes for XQC when he streams but they became addicts without even notice this and they lost a lot of money from their own pocket as well. At this point I suppose none of them really wants to stop streaming or playing slots and also Twich policy cannot do anything against this. I mean ...they have hot tubs and all that but Twitch was designed by gamers for gamers.

I watch the story of XQC he lost everything that he earned on gambling and decided to take a break and promise to not do gambling again but here he are again streaming and gambling as if nothing happened to them. This gambling promotion by streamer is a double edge sword for them because they will become addicted eventually if they are continuously playing slots on there streams as part of there daily life.

Well, I'm not sure if they are making more money by being paid to advertise the casino.

You never know actually what's the real amount of money flowing there. They might gamble a bit just for the show, but in reality they might be earning a lot by the money the casinos pay them for advertising them.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 29, 2022, 06:59:49 PM

This is kind of promotion for different platforms. In the past we used to see YouTube videos for the streamers making money and try their strategies. Now this has turned to be a way of promoting respective platforms and get paid. If we look upon the streamers it looks like they're spending big and making big money. The reality, they're funded by the gambling platforms and they play without the fear of losing which for sure brings in profit.

I think it's either the company hire them or this Youtubers just decided to go to other platforms and then promotions just started coming. So it's easy for them to make money and then promote the casinos. And maybe the casino too is feeding them with money so that they can able to sustain their play in live audience with huge bet on the screens. And that's why they are not afraid to go with max bets and not fear of losing because it's not their money anyway.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 29, 2022, 06:59:49 PM

This is kind of promotion for different platforms. In the past we used to see YouTube videos for the streamers making money and try their strategies. Now this has turned to be a way of promoting respective platforms and get paid. If we look upon the streamers it looks like they're spending big and making big money. The reality, they're funded by the gambling platforms and they play without the fear of losing which for sure brings in profit.

I do agree with what you have said above. It can be said that if they were not even using pennies to bet. They were always getting big multipliers once i hate to say that if that was so difficult to get it. I have no doubt if they can gamble bunch of money caused by the gambling platform itself already given a VIP access to the streamer. That's why some streamers are starting to move to playing slots or something else.

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Quote from: iv4n on July 28, 2022, 11:47:06 AM

I agree, the streaming industry is growing in the last few years... it's a natural process, and I also think it will continue to grow! Pandemic probably affected the speed of growth, and people were forced to stay at home and the internet was the only source of fun and for many people source of income! That's a great combination for sure, making money and enjoying while you do it, and I guess streaming is all about that... you enjoy doing something while you get paid for that!

100% the pandemic helped in the growth. I mean look at the recent trend of Vtubers (Virtual Youtubers) recently, it was the pandemic that popped them up so quickly into the mainstream (which I doubt would also have happened without the pandemic, but with more time) as well as digital payments all over the globe together with delivery apps and the like.

Quote from: Quidat on July 29, 2022, 07:04:02 PM

Wont limit out on gambling industry but also in other industries as well which do really involves marketing where it do share up on the same reason on getting some ads and marketing on a specific company
and we know that generating money or income with this kind of work is much more better rather than having a day job which do pay less and when the trend is heard then you would definitely expect
that lots would be jumping in and would do the same because they do know that money making on an easy way is just not comparable in todays physical job or going
to offices.

That's for famous people. And content creation isn't something easy, you're severely underestimating it imo if you just sum it up as an "easy way", especially the building up the reputation part. It's just like in casinos tbf, takes time and takes a lot of marketing and stuff like that.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on July 29, 2022, 06:44:55 PM

Quote from: justdimin on July 29, 2022, 01:34:04 PM

Quote from: bitzizzix on July 28, 2022, 10:00:11 PM

There are actually quite a few streamers playing for their own money, but as my marketing experience. And I can also tell you that some streamers will have sponsors from online casino websites to invite them to play and make videos with free credits, and indirectly advertise it to attract subscribers and I am also happy to see it and indeed it will make people want to do it.

Maybe there are streamers which are sponsored and then after they have done their jobs, they will switch on their main account and gamble for real and maybe they have another streaming account only to stream their real game. While there are also streamers which don't have any sponsorship and only play using their own money.

It can be noticeable because their bankroll is not that big enough and also they are more careful with their moves. Seeing sponsored streamers play can entertain us not only because they are betting with bigger amounts and playing on a high risks games but also because of their awesome commentaries.

^ There are too many reasons why there are too many streamers now has been involved in gambling, but the main purpose is the money that they will get from the casino and there are too many answers to how they will use the money, and probably, it depends on them. Streamers are very popular for the marketing promotion in gambling casinos that will surely lure gamblers to visit the casino site. We wonder why the gambling casino has been raised now because the gambling industry has been also widely increased, the competition becomes very hot and that is why promotion is quite good to take advantage of other gambling casinos.

Wont limit out on gambling industry but also in other industries as well which do really involves marketing where it do share up on the same reason on getting some ads and marketing on a specific company
and we know that generating money or income with this kind of work is much more better rather than having a day job which do pay less and when the trend is heard then you would definitely expect
that lots would be jumping in and would do the same because they do know that money making on an easy way is just not comparable in todays physical job or going
to offices.

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This is kind of promotion for different platforms. In the past we used to see YouTube videos for the streamers making money and try their strategies. Now this has turned to be a way of promoting respective platforms and get paid. If we look upon the streamers it looks like they're spending big and making big money. The reality, they're funded by the gambling platforms and they play without the fear of losing which for sure brings in profit.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on July 28, 2022, 06:57:32 PM

Can we trust those streamers of gambling exactly?
Some of them may be paid by the gambling platforms. That s why sometimes it may not be as we expect about the result. I saw several times how easy they are when they are winning the gambling on some certain platforms and they could get big earning or rewards from the gambling platform. But, in this case, we may not be able to do it by ourselves. Is it related to the codnition in which most of streamers are paid by certain gambling platform to advertsie their platfomr actually?

Trust is a big thing. It's good to just watch them NOT for the purpose that you will believe that something magical or lucky moment will happen to you too the same as those streamers whenever they hit a jackpot, won big, always hit big multipliers, and so on.

Just enjoy the show. You don't need to follow the exact thing that streamers do. They do it obviously for their own content as part of their page or video monetization or might be they are partnered with the gambling site. Aside from that, we should all have that mindset whether to understand what we are watching is either trash or not.

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Quote from: justdimin on July 29, 2022, 01:34:04 PM

Quote from: bitzizzix on July 28, 2022, 10:00:11 PM

There are actually quite a few streamers playing for their own money, but as my marketing experience. And I can also tell you that some streamers will have sponsors from online casino websites to invite them to play and make videos with free credits, and indirectly advertise it to attract subscribers and I am also happy to see it and indeed it will make people want to do it.

Maybe there are streamers which are sponsored and then after they have done their jobs, they will switch on their main account and gamble for real and maybe they have another streaming account only to stream their real game. While there are also streamers which don't have any sponsorship and only play using their own money.

It can be noticeable because their bankroll is not that big enough and also they are more careful with their moves. Seeing sponsored streamers play can entertain us not only because they are betting with bigger amounts and playing on a high risks games but also because of their awesome commentaries.

^ There are too many reasons why there are too many streamers now has been involved in gambling, but the main purpose is the money that they will get from the casino and there are too many answers to how they will use the money, and probably, it depends on them. Streamers are very popular for the marketing promotion in gambling casinos that will surely lure gamblers to visit the casino site. We wonder why the gambling casino has been raised now because the gambling industry has been also widely increased, the competition becomes very hot and that is why promotion is quite good to take advantage of other gambling casinos.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 29, 2022, 04:41:45 PM

It isn't surprising to see slots streams on the top list. There are lots of gamblers around the world. And many of them wonder how a slots work, how it bonus works, how much it would pay and the volatility of the slots, so they tend to watch streamers besides, most streams have giveaways. The giveaway may be the main reason why gambling games such as slots are one of the top lists.

I think its popularity has brought due to the interest of many on actual casinos and how this game works.
Aside from being fun, it is really enjoyable just to watch a streamer that plays with a slot and other gambling games too.
So, those money that they show to their audience or viewers, it is intriguing and attracting whether they are for real or not.

Yes that it is since the number of users who want to enjoy online that's why they see a opportunity to earn that's why we see them participate on promoting a gambling site at the moment. It's really fun to see them playing because we can get an idea with them on the style they are using because we could replicate it and have fun to, but what bad thing their if the influencer is just hyping certain casino and offer to good to be true to their audience then they are not really fun to watch.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 29, 2022, 04:41:45 PM

It isn't surprising to see slots streams on the top list. There are lots of gamblers around the world. And many of them wonder how a slots work, how it bonus works, how much it would pay and the volatility of the slots, so they tend to watch streamers besides, most streams have giveaways. The giveaway may be the main reason why gambling games such as slots are one of the top lists.

I think its popularity has brought due to the interest of many on actual casinos and how this game works.
Aside from being fun, it is really enjoyable just to watch a streamer that plays with a slot and other gambling games too.
So, those money that they show to their audience or viewers, it is intriguing and attracting whether they are for real or not.

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