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Quote from: bravehearth0319 on March 26, 2019, 06:54:04 PM

Buyers of 2017 coins are the ones who hold their coins right now if they have the patience up to now. Otherwise, they already sold their coins laat year. The very long bearish period really tested holders patience. This is the key to survive here in cryptocurrency, patience. This is the recovery period as you can see that coins are very stable though not that high, but at least they are stable. For some, this is the time to acquire significant coins while prices are low.

Most of the people that bought at the end of 2017 are not holding their coins anymore, they are the ones that bought cryptocurrencies just because they thought that they could make some easy money really fast, the ones that are still holding their coins are all of those that bought before the bubble and that did it because they were completely convinced about the future of cryptocurrencies in general.

You say that the key to survival in this market is patience, but it doesn't matter how patient you are, you are going to eventually sell your coins if you do not believe that cryptocurrencies can in fact change the world, so the first thing that you need in order to gain the necessary patience is to have a deep knowledge about the economy and its flaws and how cryptocurrencies can solve many of those issues.

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I think trading is always risky.But if you can play it in sharp mind and with experience, you can be the winner.Trading is unpredictable but I think now we should hold and wait a little bit cause I believe bitcoin price will increase more.So why not wait a little bit and gain more profit.But what I said is risky too because bitcoinis falling agian ATM, 4900$ now.

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Quote from: kkaroul4 on April 03, 2019, 10:54:21 AM

Quote from: manggis97 on March 24, 2019, 12:20:07 AM

Hold and trading should be always with risk management because both different way has potential to offer good profit but also with the same high risk. Both way only good to do when crypto oversold just like current situation. We should be also have target profit for each way and avoid greedy.

therefore the risk of trading by holding the coin is really needed at a market like this because it is a good strategy to get profits even though the risk is quite large

We are risk takers and i can surely say holding is best option if the price rises up, I know and I keep this in mind that before rising it will surely get to the dip but one more thing is certain that price will again rise, so everyone talks according to their experience and my experience says holding is much better than taking risk of trading at low price.

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Quote from: mrdeposit on April 02, 2019, 05:43:32 PM

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I can't hold anymore once the market get red it shown that all altcoins have a chance to decrease on their prices so for those holders make sure that they can take the risk of it.

Panic sale will be a good reason to regret it in the future. There is always great risk, therefore it is always advisable to invest money which you can afford to lose.

I think people who invest in crypto currency should take risks and take risks consciously , and now do not need to invest in crypto currency no more than 10% of the Deposit , since the market is still present bearish mood , it is worth investing in those coins that are still at the bottom

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the holder does have a higher risk than the trader, a trader has a stake in the funds they trade, while the holders usually do not, the traders can recover the lost assets by continuing to trade the remaining assets.

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I can't hold anymore once the market get red it shown that all altcoins have a chance to decrease on their prices so for those holders make sure that they can take the risk of it.

Holding is one of the Best strategies in making profits from cryptocurrencies market. Those that has been holding for long especially since the beginning of the last bull run are going to make serious profits in two to three years to come if they can keep holding.

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Quote from: manggis97 on March 24, 2019, 12:20:07 AM

Hold and trading should be always with risk management because both different way has potential to offer good profit but also with the same high risk. Both way only good to do when crypto oversold just like current situation. We should be also have target profit for each way and avoid greedy.

therefore the risk of trading by holding the coin is really needed at a market like this because it is a good strategy to get profits even though the risk is quite large

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This really fits on what kind of person you are. If you dont want to be stressed daily or youre too busy doing anything else then holding is fit for you, and vice versa. They are also both risky so theres no competition regarding that. Besides, trading requires skills and holding is not much ao it really depends on the person's capability.

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I can't hold anymore once the market get red it shown that all altcoins have a chance to decrease on their prices so for those holders make sure that they can take the risk of it.

Panic sale will be a good reason to regret it in the future. There is always great risk, therefore it is always advisable to invest money which you can afford to lose.

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Quote from: D3m1r4wanti on March 19, 2019, 09:16:40 AM

trading does have a very high risk, but with such a high risk I prefer trading compared to just holding.
holding not thinking too much about the strategy, they just wait for the price to go up to sell the tokens they have.

This depends on the individual if they have time to do trading. Trading requires time, patience, and determination in order to at least render it profitable. With HODL, you can focus on different/prioritize on different things while making time doing its thing.

The problem with HODL, you do not have the capacity to speculate or read about the market situation in order to maximize the profits. You are only letting time do its work and sell your investments if its price is beyond the initial acquired price.
With trading, you can study the external and internal market factors to reach a conclusion to your next financial decision. It involves a series of technical analysis and speculation unlike HODL.

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Quote from: manggis97 on March 24, 2019, 12:20:07 AM

Hold and trading should be always with risk management because both different way has potential to offer good profit but also with the same high risk. Both way only good to do when crypto oversold just like current situation. We should be also have target profit for each way and avoid greedy.

Before buying it is best to determine the price to sell because this market we cannot predict anything and if Bitcoin turns red then all other altcoin will be red. Currently, Bitcoin has shown great stability in the last 7 weeks and it is likely that we will soon see red in this market, so consider selling before it's too late.

The market is very unpredictable. There exist no direct or inverse proportional relationship among cryptocurrencies as it all depends on the market. If you were to trade, it is advisable to focus into one coin alone and extensively do your research about the said coin.

Now is not perfect time to trade because price now is not very high that can make profit for you, better keep holding as according to me holding never puts us in risk but trading at wrong time is bit risky, try not to lose your patience because market from sometimes falls but your patience will help you get out of the risk for wrong time trading.

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Quote from: D3m1r4wanti on March 19, 2019, 09:16:40 AM

trading does have a very high risk, but with such a high risk I prefer trading compared to just holding.
holding not thinking too much about the strategy, they just wait for the price to go up to sell the tokens they have.

This depends on the individual if they have time to do trading. Trading requires time, patience, and determination in order to at least render it profitable. With HODL, you can focus on different/prioritize on different things while making time doing its thing.

The problem with HODL, you do not have the capacity to speculate or read about the market situation in order to maximize the profits. You are only letting time do its work and sell your investments if its price is beyond the initial acquired price.
With trading, you can study the external and internal market factors to reach a conclusion to your next financial decision. It involves a series of technical analysis and speculation unlike HODL.

Quote from: cryptic4000 on April 01, 2019, 11:39:37 PM

Quote from: manggis97 on March 24, 2019, 12:20:07 AM

Hold and trading should be always with risk management because both different way has potential to offer good profit but also with the same high risk. Both way only good to do when crypto oversold just like current situation. We should be also have target profit for each way and avoid greedy.

Before buying it is best to determine the price to sell because this market we cannot predict anything and if Bitcoin turns red then all other altcoin will be red. Currently, Bitcoin has shown great stability in the last 7 weeks and it is likely that we will soon see red in this market, so consider selling before it's too late.

The market is very unpredictable. There exist no direct or inverse proportional relationship among cryptocurrencies as it all depends on the market. If you were to trade, it is advisable to focus into one coin alone and extensively do your research about the said coin.

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Quote from: manggis97 on March 24, 2019, 12:20:07 AM

Hold and trading should be always with risk management because both different way has potential to offer good profit but also with the same high risk. Both way only good to do when crypto oversold just like current situation. We should be also have target profit for each way and avoid greedy.

Before buying it is best to determine the price to sell because this market we cannot predict anything and if Bitcoin turns red then all other altcoin will be red. Currently, Bitcoin has shown great stability in the last 7 weeks and it is likely that we will soon see red in this market, so consider selling before it's too late.

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Quote from: Freny250 on March 19, 2019, 09:40:42 PM

I always like the idea of swing trading even while holding. In the last few months we have seen how many altcoin have left their all time high and dump to an all time low price and holders of those token have been burnt. It is better to be trading it at interval while you hold to avoid massive loss

That's also a good idea as it's possible to make money in long term and short term trade.
However, this is not easy as you think, if you are used to long term holding, you should probably need to adjust as it's hard to find a good timing
in short trading. This can be learn of course, so you effort will pay off if you work hard enough to have a working strategy.

It means naturally, traders must know strategy for short term and long term trading. Because in any condition of market, he can solve it. And maybe if beb long term trader, it can be called investors because he save money and take profit for long time.

That is a good concept and suggestion. What I understand by swing trading is that it would be the kind of trading not completely devoted to a single coin/currency in the market but many of them at different time intervals. Is it profitable? I think it would be because you make use of the peak factor in case of each coin. Anyhow, for money making, I believe that Bitcoin is still the place to stick to.

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Quote from: rollingstorm45 on March 26, 2019, 09:33:15 PM

Quote from: john1010 on June 11, 2018, 10:12:39 AM

I am in favor on your analysis, Hodler is more risky than trader, especially when you hold more of some Shitcoin bought in some ICO project... There is no chance of winning of them.. I prepared to trade all my ICO coins when hitted to market, that will lower the risk.. Trading is more on waiting and patience, plus the factor of a good timing!

all traders should have the ability to be able to predict prices from time to time. because the key to success in trading is to enter at the right time and get out at the right time. because all strategies in crypto become meaningless if we are wrong in determining the time when we sell and when we buy.

If all traders have that ability, then definitely, trading would be boring.
The reality is that most traders are not good in predicting the market movement, and that's result to less profitable traders in the market.
Crypto is not easy to predict due to its unpredictable nature, but those who are smart enough may be able to predict it right.

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Quote from: john1010 on June 11, 2018, 10:12:39 AM

I am in favor on your analysis, Hodler is more risky than trader, especially when you hold more of some Shitcoin bought in some ICO project... There is no chance of winning of them.. I prepared to trade all my ICO coins when hitted to market, that will lower the risk.. Trading is more on waiting and patience, plus the factor of a good timing!

all traders should have the ability to be able to predict prices from time to time. because the key to success in trading is to enter at the right time and get out at the right time. because all strategies in crypto become meaningless if we are wrong in determining the time when we sell and when we buy.

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Buyers of 2017 coins are the ones who hold their coins right now if they have the patience up to now. Otherwise, they already sold their coins laat year. The very long bearish period really tested holders patience. This is the key to survive here in cryptocurrency, patience. This is the recovery period as you can see that coins are very stable though not that high, but at least they are stable. For some, this is the time to acquire significant coins while prices are low.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 21, 2019, 06:56:57 PM

Quote from: faceoff97 on March 21, 2019, 05:53:19 PM

The only thing to consider when holding is the safety of your funds. Since most Hodler are doing long term investment, they have to keep their fund in a safe storage. It's preferable to be a hardware wallet or an open source wallet. Open source if you doesn't hold to much volume, I suggest Electrum for Bitcoin and hodler if you want to invest into multiple coins.

Just be sure that your using legit Electrum wallet cause there is an issue regarding this. Click this one https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/electrum-wallet-scam-claiming-they-were-hacked-2780779

And so holding will be good for those potential coins only but if not, there is no reason to keep them long. I usually sell my tokens coming from bounties and I invested it into the other coins which I may feel profiting.

Since I'm holding multiple coin I prefer Hodler wallet. It's like Electrum that is open source but can hold multiple coin. What's important is that you have the full control over your private key. Im also checking out a hardware version of their wallet, you can it out it also here: hodler.tech/pro

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Quote from: Bitcotalk on March 19, 2019, 08:16:52 AM

Quote from: XbladedThanos on March 09, 2019, 07:30:52 PM

HOLDING is actually one of the most terrible idea especially if you dont study the project so well i remember holding almost 500$ and then turning into actually nothing at the end of the day with the devs complaining and blaming the bearish market so just know what to actually Hodl

Business is not all about making money all the time. You have to loose money to learn and then make it again to the peak. So those people who cannot go with trading would never make money in trading and would always have to wait for the bull run to make profits which is not every day happening. Eventually these kinds of people either have to enter the trading or leave the market for the pursuit of benefits in other assets.

I disagree, a business is about making money all the time, that is what the business owner wants even if it is not always possible, it is true that you need to invest some money in order to make money but that is just the way investments work, they will not be spending that amount of money if they did not believe that they had a great chance to make money in the future in whatever business activity they decided to pursue.

Those people that are so focused on the purpose of their business and what they want out of it are the ones that become successful because they do not let anything up to chance and they are always looking for ways to improve themselves and their business.

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Quote from: D3m1r4wanti on March 19, 2019, 09:16:40 AM

trading does have a very high risk, but with such a high risk I prefer trading compared to just holding.
holding not thinking too much about the strategy, they just wait for the price to go up to sell the tokens they have.

Yes, that is very right. Newbies have high risk of loosing value in the cryptocurrency market as compared to those who have been in the market for sometimes now. It definitely takes experience and time to understand the market. Besides, the market is down and it is in the phase of recovery so better wait for the right moment to withdraw and you might make money.

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Hold and trading should be always with risk management because both different way has potential to offer good profit but also with the same high risk. Both way only good to do when crypto oversold just like current situation. We should be also have target profit for each way and avoid greedy.

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