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Topic: risk in hodling and trading strategy - page 7. (Read 26450 times)

hero member
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February 27, 2019, 10:19:54 AM
Hodling was supposed to be a sure way of making profit in the cryptocurrency market or in any other similar market. But as we have noticed in recent times, it is a strategy that has not worked for some existing investors whom the market is still currently against. The risk involve in this strategy is that there is no certainty to the existence of cryptocurrency and likewise, there is no prediction to how high the market can grow or to how low it can fall.
But on a final note, hodling is a risk worth taking in trading, when you have a low entry point.
when you trade at least you already have a risk that will make you fall poor, but you can also become rich, all the risks that will occur in the cryptocurrency can occur and no one provides a guarantee that can always benefit.
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February 27, 2019, 09:25:42 AM
Hodling was supposed to be a sure way of making profit in the cryptocurrency market or in any other similar market. But as we have noticed in recent times, it is a strategy that has not worked for some existing investors whom the market is still currently against. The risk involve in this strategy is that there is no certainty to the existence of cryptocurrency and likewise, there is no prediction to how high the market can grow or to how low it can fall.
But on a final note, hodling is a risk worth taking in trading, when you have a low entry point.
sr. member
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February 27, 2019, 09:01:58 AM
Everything is very risky here in crypto. The reward differrence of two is that trading will only give you a small percentage of profit but holding can give 100x - 1kx of return in the future and we are talking about 2-3 years of span. Holding not really go well for 5-10 years because it can be surpassed by a new brand that has a better marketing and latest system.

Trading in crypto was an amazing experience once you got into a big surprise when your asset earned a huge profit gains. Because of your burning sensation towards different strategies applied your potentials turned out as the best tool for you to continue your dreams. Even though the risk put your funds to danger, but still we remain driven and motivated against challenging days that crypto once an unpredicatable happenings which likely to make our day bad.
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February 27, 2019, 08:37:47 AM
Everything is very risky here in crypto. The reward differrence of two is that trading will only give you a small percentage of profit but holding can give 100x - 1kx of return in the future and we are talking about 2-3 years of span. Holding not really go well for 5-10 years because it can be surpassed by a new brand that has a better marketing and latest system.
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February 25, 2019, 10:23:39 PM
The risk in the holding may be that you just do not have time to fix the profit and the token will have more time to return to a high price, and in trading you need to do everything with a cold head
legendary
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February 25, 2019, 07:51:37 PM
Exactly! Just what happened to me when I started crypto around 2017, I hold too much coins and most of them are the shitcoins and now they are now no value. It's so very sad that I didn't sold those shitcoins on the bull run 2017. But now I learned so many lessons from the past.
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February 25, 2019, 06:53:04 PM
I am in favor on your analysis, Hodler is more risky than trader, especially when you hold more of some Shitcoin bought in some ICO project... There is no chance of winning of them.. I prepared to trade all my ICO coins when hitted to market, that will lower the risk.. Trading is more on waiting and patience, plus the factor of a good timing!

totally agreed. holding ICO tokens of a silent project is one-way-ticket...
If its just a bounty token then I think the risk is not that high. Holding is risky because you will miss a lot of chance to take profit, but its ok because if you hold top coins you can be sure for a good price in the future. Everything have their on risk level, go for the risk that you can afford.
legendary
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February 25, 2019, 06:01:51 PM
When you want to be a Hodler, you have to be very confident about a coin. Without confidence, we will suffer losses, because if we choose the wrong coin, we will experience regret. While trading will be much safer, this is because trading is usually done in the not too distant future. In trading we try to gain momentum to find the margin between the price of buying and selling coins that we have.
Totally in agreement with you, I believe that the way of thinking of an Investor is like that, and if he has decided to make his investment it is because that trust and security are based on a previous investigation to take him to that conclusion.

It is also necessary to point out that the Investor is willing to wait a long time, months, years to obtain a profit, that is, little by little he becomes a millionaire.

Actually, the investor, I think he should have a lot of money, because if you need time to make a profit, it should not affect you to have a part of your money investment. For trade, it would simply be to operate the phases of the market, it does not matter if the market goes up or down, what should follow is the direction and speculate based on it, this does not mean that every day it is imperative to operate the market, because there is times when you can not trade and any speculator can identify when it should be out of the market.
legendary
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February 23, 2019, 06:08:07 PM
When you want to be a Hodler, you have to be very confident about a coin. Without confidence, we will suffer losses, because if we choose the wrong coin, we will experience regret. While trading will be much safer, this is because trading is usually done in the not too distant future. In trading we try to gain momentum to find the margin between the price of buying and selling coins that we have.
hero member
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February 23, 2019, 05:10:30 PM
I really agree with everything you say. holders have a higher level of risk than trading. by trading we can all know the development of prices from time to time, very different from holding. in my opinion the hold strategy is a strategy that is mostly done by people who don't want to work as much as possible. and trading strategies are a very good strategy to do, for people who want to work to earn income.
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February 23, 2019, 04:09:41 PM
For those people in weak hands also sell immediately their altcoins in low price so its better to make other strategy if their are some issue of holding coins.

People who do not have risk taking capacity should ideally be away because their is a huge chance of making losses as crypto is being very volatile. If people do not have patience it will lead to panic selling and in the end they will make losses for them self.

Risk is surely a part of our life and we will have to face it not only here but every field of business, so despite the huge risk I must say for all holder and traders to buy and hold for long term, risk is not bigger than your strength so be so confident and trust your trading skills, so nothing can affect your mentally for holding your trading strategy.
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February 23, 2019, 02:37:03 PM
For those people in weak hands also sell immediately their altcoins in low price so its better to make other strategy if their are some issue of holding coins.

Holding coins can be less unsafe than exchanging in case you're not experienced at exchanging and you're aimlessly making moves or exchanging generally inwardly, however both holding and exchanging have dangers prepared into them. By the day's end, both exchanging and holding are superbly practical methods for endeavoring to make a benefit in crypto, yet holding's less demanding to accomplish for a great many people. A large portion of the cryptocurrencies for long time I hold are significant digital forms of money, as holding littler coins for the most part doesn't give the best outcomes. There are to be sure coins that shoot up from a couple of pennies to a few dollars, however you need to likewise recollect there are a large number of mint pieces out there
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February 23, 2019, 02:22:49 PM
For those people in weak hands also sell immediately their altcoins in low price so its better to make other strategy if their are some issue of holding coins.
The best strategy is just to hold, you won't see any issue if you believe on the coins you are investing.
If you are for long term investing, you should act accordingly because if you fail to implement your strategy, there's no chance for you to be successful.
I usually see people who are saying weak hands will dump, well that's true because in my life as an investor, I was also a weak hands.

Yes, you're right. But we must search for potential coins to hold so we can make a lot of profit in the long-term. Many of us still holding many coins which we don't know if that coins will be profitable or not and we still have the risk. We have a chance for doing trading in anytime, but we need to have a strategy, and I think it could work for us to make another profit from trading.
People should not be afraid with the dump because it is always happening in all coins and if they don't want to worry, I suggest to try to be the investor so they don't have to think about the up and down the coin price.
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February 23, 2019, 01:28:34 PM
Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl



the strategies are always important that we have to follow in this time because if we are in blank situation there is no new ideas we came to our mind and make the decision more different but keeping the strategies will give the idea of your trading very easily that's why I recommend it.
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February 23, 2019, 07:33:24 AM
For those people in weak hands also sell immediately their altcoins in low price so its better to make other strategy if their are some issue of holding coins.

People who do not have risk taking capacity should ideally be away because their is a huge chance of making losses as crypto is being very volatile. If people do not have patience it will lead to panic selling and in the end they will make losses for them self.
hero member
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February 23, 2019, 07:17:43 AM
For those people in weak hands also sell immediately their altcoins in low price so its better to make other strategy if their are some issue of holding coins.
The best strategy is just to hold, you won't see any issue if you believe on the coins you are investing.
If you are for long term investing, you should act accordingly because if you fail to implement your strategy, there's no chance for you to be successful.
I usually see people who are saying weak hands will dump, well that's true because in my life as an investor, I was also a weak hands.
sr. member
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February 21, 2019, 10:32:46 AM
the risk of holding is tolerable, people can hold and wait until the price comes back, the only risk of holding for me are, first, when you are holding a coins that has no good potential and the second one is when you are too impatient to do holdings. That is why people are failed to do a good holding because when price move whatever the direction is when always making a move sometimes it results a good one and sometimes it leads loosing your holdings.
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February 21, 2019, 08:51:22 AM
There is some risk in holding too, but it is a lot safer than trading. In trading many people make mistakes, as not many of them are experienced and expert in technical analysis.
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February 21, 2019, 08:31:55 AM
all their judgments are wrong. That evidence is the collapse of crypto in 2018. Bitcoins fell from $ 20k to $ 3k3. And is that considered a good hold strategy? they were wrong!
Our market is always volatile and we need to be vigilant. We need stop-loss orders to prevent losses.
Hold will only make us lose everything or lose a lot.

yup, holding is not that smart as it looks like.

regarding trading scheme:
I tried the following strategy: if 15 min time frame is of positive trend for 7-9 candles then I open Buy position and set TP at 100 pips (or 100 USD) and then close a position.

then I make the same thing but with 2x volume.
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February 21, 2019, 08:28:47 AM
It is necessary to combine both of these directions, as it is necessary to closely monitor your portfolio, because there are cryptocurrencies that give growth for a week of 100% or more
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