Topic: RitzGrandCasino not provably fair (Has nothing to do with their sig program) - page 5. (Read 10851 times)

Now it appears they've resorted to sending me e-mails.

He's threatening people because they can expose his casino as a scam. He stopped replying in this thread once I kept proving him wrong and using facts to beat his nonsense.

What? How did he get your phone number or know you have a kid?

they also threaten people who defy them i also recieved threats over the phone, the guy even mentioned my son, fucking lowlifes

As people that like to support RGC seem to think, this is not about their signature program. This is about them claiming to be provably fair, and not being, and also not backing up their own claims.

It's been mentioned several times by mods/admins. Look in meta or something.

Link to where it says that that is the preferred method?  Personally I think it looks disingenuous, but maybe I'm just used to seeing it not done that way.

That's what you're meant to do so the thread isn't just littered with bumps.

RitzGrandCasino actually left me negative feedback even though I'd never actually said anything bad about him and had actually kinda defended him several times. I messaged him asking why he left me feedback and he told me he'd remove it if I deleted my negative comments (there is none) and the feedback I left for him (I haven't even left him any feedback yet, but I'll be returning the favour shortly). I don't think he's the smartest tool in the box and he most certainly has no idea how to run a respectable business.

He is making a tonne of money running this scam but when it all comes down to it it's obvious that the moderators that have viewed this thread can't justify the evidence laid out and it's not enough to prove he is scamming as he is still legimately paying out at the end of the day.

I noticed something that he's been doing for the last week or so, it appears that he's bumping his thread in the gambling section every day by deleting his bump from the day before and posting a new reply.  Not sure why, as bumping your thread once a day is allowed.

Visibility bump.

Not necessarily zolace. The system is designed in a way that the overall payout percentage can only be incorporated across the board at any one time only. You can't change the percentage for certain games or certain individuals. So if u play your cards right being the casino manager u can make a pretty large profit by reeling everyone in this way:
Set large payout percentage to begin with, run at say $100K loss. Everyone sees how easy it is to win, they invite their friends, they have evidence that they are being paid out so it's a no brainer that the casino actually pays out. Then once u have a big enough customer base placing good sized wagers drop that payout percentage to a bare minimum and let the good times roll. Squeeze all the players out of their coins until there's no one left to squeeze. To top it off all of your "trial/free mode games" have a seperate payout percentage to your real games so you can trick newcomers into thinking they are very lucky with this casino and it really is "probably fair"

Its amazing that people will advertise a site that is not provably fair.  Hes trying to offer higher sig so that he can get others to promote and draw traffic to a site that allows one user per house hold. meaning im sure the software lets you win a couple of time then starts taking from you.  Since if you make a new account and start all over again you can keep beating there system. 

Visibility bump because RGC has not provided evidence against the following claims.

Please, show us your liscense. Show us where the government audited your code.

I dont think you quite understand the concept and logic behind Provably Fair, so for arguments sake ill just leave it at good luck with your casino, im sure you will do well seeing as you can control the outcome. You need to make your investment back after all anyway otherwise whats the point right? Best of luck to you.

For anyone else reading through this forum im not speculating that RitzGrandCasino will not payout legitimate wins on his casino or for your signatures. Im sure the more "better" publicity for his casino, the higher the profit will be in the end. In my view I believe Ritz will honour his advertisement payouts, he has the advantage of making that back at whatever profit margin he chooses to do so.

Oh, you're going to go there? They don't need to show anybody jack shit, because they prove they are fair with strong cryptography. You claim you are fair withnothing but a promise that you are using some site and not pulling numbers out of your ass or just plain cheating. I don't know how many times  i have to say it, but you are not provably fair. You can't prove anything. Just because people smarter than you coined the term doesn't mean you have to get butthurt about it. You cannot prove you do not cheat, that is why you aren't provably fair. Not because I advertise another casino. Not because other casinos won't show you their proprietary code. It's because you are cheating but trying to use provably fair as a gimmick to reel in victims who don't understand the system. While, we're on the topic, why don't you show us your backend? I bet you won't and I can tell you why. It isn't a fair casino. And don't try to avoid this question by saying anything about primedice or any bullshit like that. How is your casino provably fair? Explain it step by step to me. I will show you how you can cheat.

Spartan, we are provably fair anyway.
That's the point.  Go to our website and see for yourself.
But it means nothing anyway. Have a look at the others server settings on their software. Then lets see who is honest.

I bet they wont show you their software back end.
For example primedice  do you know who made their software?
can you see the admin in any demo?

See what we are saying


When you apply for a REAL licence the govt audits your software. And checks for dishonesty. At ANYTIME they can check as they always have access to the servers. So who in their right mind would have something that is a scam when the govt can straight away see it?

Anyway guys, this is the last post we will make on this thread. We are too busy, to be wasting time on here.

Best,
RGC

Ritz the whole point is that you specifically mention on your website that your casino is PROVABLY FAIR. All people ask of you is that you PROVE that it is fair. What you have just said now basically tells us that you cant prove its fair and now you point your fingers at other casinos saying they arent fair either so its ok for you to throw the term PROVABLY FAIR around like it means nothing. Good luck to you and your casino, really, those romanian game developers are good at what they do ill give them that much, but theres a legitimate way of running a gambling establishment and theres a shady way of running it too. Just saying.

The term provably fair was invented by 2 bitcoin game operators. This is  made to their way of thinking. It doesn't mean it's right or wrong. We are fully provably fair.  But then what is provably fair? Can someone come up with the equation. Actually find a equation that was not made by other operators but a respected 3rd party. Define it. And you think that even though a casino is "provably fair" it still could not cheat?  Especially ones that most of you play with no graphical interface. They are the easiest to cheat with.  

Let us point out to you some facts:
1) Provably fair is one of the biggest "false assurance" things out there. Just because a casino is "provably fair" doesn't mean they can't still cheat.

2) No real play for money casino gets into this provably fair stuff. Because not only it's BS. It doesn't stand for anything as it was made up by bitcoin casinos.

3) We are about to become a real play for money casino. So we would be the last to cheat people because we would be under the jurisdiction of the EU. The fines and possible jail time would not be worth it. Nothing is worth risking our licence for.

4) If these other guys are so "provably fair" and didn't cheat, then why don't they get a real licence?  Now have a real hard think about it. And ask yourselves the same question.