Yes you are right that mate and that's the reason why every casino have their rules and regulations or let say terms and condition cause if they give you a bonus then some casino have a task before you can claim it. But some of them that they required specific amount to deposit in order to have or to get that bonuses. So after signing up to or before creating an account then we must research a little bit what is that casino all about if they are trusted or not.
Not in all cases they have such requirements but like deposit bonus most of them have wagering requirements as well withdrawal limits also so nobody abuses these free deposit bonuses and safeguard their interest as well.You should have reviews about casino before signing up and depositing your funds over to know whether it's legit or not. 
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Yes you are right that mate and that's the reason why every casino have their rules and regulations or let say terms and condition cause if they give you a bonus then some casino have a task before you can claim it. But some of them that they required specific amount to deposit in order to have or to get that bonuses. So after signing up to or before creating an account then we must research a little bit what is that casino all about if they are trusted or not. 
But again, come to think of this, why do companies (not particularly referring to gambling casinos alone now) like to write their terms and conditions in such a way it confuses the average reader?
For the times I've ever had to read terms and conditions of some companies (not completely though), it's always been completed, I feel like they want you to have a dictionary by your side when ever you are to read their terms and conditions, because the wordings are mostly where the confusion sprouts from.
Well, in terms of gambling, its always good to contact the customer care when ever one is confused with any part of the terms and condition, but when signing a contract with a company, one have to hire a lawyer to read and explain the terms and conditions, in order not to end up signing oneself into something he or she does not understand.
Actually I don't want to say that the casino wants to trap users, but what they include in the terms and conditions is indeed like trapping users, it becomes multi-interpreted. But not all of them are like that, I usually just read the outline like the most important things I have to understand, such as withdrawals and deposits. I don't mean to say that the other things listed are not important, but for me personally I prefer to prioritize the most important things. Because usually I get more dizzy when I have to complete what is in the terms and conditions. For the times I've ever had to read terms and conditions of some companies (not completely though), it's always been completed, I feel like they want you to have a dictionary by your side when ever you are to read their terms and conditions, because the wordings are mostly where the confusion sprouts from.
Well, in terms of gambling, its always good to contact the customer care when ever one is confused with any part of the terms and condition, but when signing a contract with a company, one have to hire a lawyer to read and explain the terms and conditions, in order not to end up signing oneself into something he or she does not understand.
I agree 100%, for that sometimes its better to avoid some bonuses time to time.
If you not are 100% and its not a really good one i recomend to you to avoid.
What are you trying to say in your post? What he is referring to is that you should take a look at terms and conditions and if it suits you then only accept them and sign up for casinos.The deposit bonus is different thing which you get when you sign up on casino but if you get other bonuses as well so why you should not take them? If you are saying anything else I am not aware of that but for casino should be legit and good response from them even if they don't give too many bonus to players.If you not are 100% and its not a really good one i recomend to you to avoid.
I think what is meant is better to avoid bonuses, coming to gamble not because for bonuses for example on a new casino site sometimes people sometimes like to be tempted with bonuses and make deposits and then the casino committed fraud is the fault of people not reading and even seeing the reputation of casinos. So just avoid if the casino bonus is tempting especially the new casino and has no reputation.
Actually, that's what gamblers have to do, but sometimes the display of bonuses with large numbers makes gamblers not rational enough to consider many things, not only considering the wager requirements but also whether the casino can be trusted enough if it's a new casino, because we often see that promising deposit bonuses are new casinos to attract lots of players.
We should not underestimate your greediness and believe that we can control it. The best is prevent situation when our greediness can rise, prevention is the best. Like if you are trading using leverage and initially don't want to use leverages that can trigger forced liquidations easily. It is what we start but later after some losses or some profitable trades, we will lose our control and use higher leverages. The end is not happy for sure and the same is for gambling. Mastering our emotion, psychology and control it is key to success in trading and gambling. We must be very disciplined and trading as well as gambling responsibly. 
I don't think we should get to a casino just because they are having good deposit bonuses or sign-up bonuses. Yes, we should look after them but that should not be the choosing criteria for any casino. I don't really get how it could be anyways. This is a one-time process, it could get you some bonus and kick start on any casino but that could not last forever.
Moreover, there are many bonuses, or most of the bonuses which require high wagering and it could be double the bonus amount or 25x or something like that. Also, the legitimacy of casinos can not be explained by the bonuses but by the way they operate.
Actually, that's what gamblers have to do, but sometimes the display of bonuses with large numbers makes gamblers not rational enough to consider many things, not only considering the wager requirements but also whether the casino can be trusted enough if it's a new casino, because we often see that promising deposit bonuses are new casinos to attract lots of players. Moreover, there are many bonuses, or most of the bonuses which require high wagering and it could be double the bonus amount or 25x or something like that. Also, the legitimacy of casinos can not be explained by the bonuses but by the way they operate.
Because at a new casino we don't know exactly how they will run the casino, how capable they are of paying the winnings of each player, which could have passed the wager requirements that have been set and in the end the player has a large balance that he wants to withdraw.
There are still many gamblers who are stuck with this and complain when they experience unpleasant things because they are too tempted by the promised bonuses
I agree 100%, for that sometimes its better to avoid some bonuses time to time.
If you not are 100% and its not a really good one i recomend to you to avoid.
What are you trying to say in your post? What he is referring to is that you should take a look at terms and conditions and if it suits you then only accept them and sign up for casinos.The deposit bonus is different thing which you get when you sign up on casino but if you get other bonuses as well so why you should not take them? If you are saying anything else I am not aware of that but for casino should be legit and good response from them even if they don't give too many bonus to players.If you not are 100% and its not a really good one i recomend to you to avoid.
I don't think we should get to a casino just because they are having good deposit bonuses or sign-up bonuses. Yes, we should look after them but that should not be the choosing criteria for any casino. I don't really get how it could be anyways. This is a one-time process, it could get you some bonus and kick start on any casino but that could not last forever.
Moreover, there are many bonuses, or most of the bonuses which require high wagering and it could be double the bonus amount or 25x or something like that. Also, the legitimacy of casinos can not be explained by the bonuses but by the way they operate.
I agree 100%, for that sometimes its better to avoid some bonuses time to time.
If you not are 100% and its not a really good one i recomend to you to avoid.
What are you trying to say in your post? What he is referring to is that you should take a look at terms and conditions and if it suits you then only accept them and sign up for casinos.The deposit bonus is different thing which you get when you sign up on casino but if you get other bonuses as well so why you should not take them? If you are saying anything else I am not aware of that but for casino should be legit and good response from them even if they don't give too many bonus to players. If you not are 100% and its not a really good one i recomend to you to avoid.
Unquestionably, players must crack the code of terms and conditions before swooping up offers or bonuses. But are we justifiably passing the buck entirely onto them? The real conundrum, perhaps, is the enigmatic veil of the terms and conditions. Ought the casino lords not take on some accountability for clarifying their cryptic language? Could they not swap the riddles with plain speak? In doing so, they might guarantee their clientele know precisely what they're getting into.
To stir the pot, should there not be a watchdog to scrutinize these terms' lucidity, akin to other industries? In this way, both casinos and players would be tethered to a fairness standard, a level playing field.
To stir the pot, should there not be a watchdog to scrutinize these terms' lucidity, akin to other industries? In this way, both casinos and players would be tethered to a fairness standard, a level playing field.
Yes, I know what you mean, sometimes it is difficult to discover the true essence of the terms and conditions , but when we read carefully , which is difficult because we can say that things can flow normally because knowing the terms and everything we must comply with and do to be able to enjoy certain benefits things can be seen as good or bad, but that is our decision whether it is accepted or not , as far as I am concerned Whenever they give bonuses or promotions in any casino I learned that you must read very well , because a detail that escapes things can cause discomfort.
But usually I contact support straight away if I don't understand any of their terms and conditions, through support it's usually easier for me to understand.
Its important to understand what we are reading so if there's confusion regarding om the rules they set we must really ask the support to have clear insights about their written text. Its good to have clear information rather than reading it fast without understanding what you read since maybe this one will create confusion on your side especially when there's trouble will happen on our accounts. Support is there to answer our question so there's no need to be shy to ask them since its their job to answer their clients and help them on their inquiries.
There is no need to run after each and every bonus. We need to be careful in selecting which bonus is suitable for us and which one should be avoid.
Let me give you an example. Lets suppose the gambling site is giving bonus on deposit with high wagering requirements. Now you already had a plan to deposit at the casino, so you may deposit and avail this bonus. However if you already have funds at gambling site, depositing only to get this bonus may not be the right idea.
There are also many terms and regulations that are sometimes overlooked to read, well, even though I also never had time to read them, at least take the important points there, but it's also true that being a gambler, it's enough to play and deposit without having to expect bonuses, make sure the casino has a good reputation. good before making a deposit and don't be tempted by bonuses, especially in new casinos, should be avoided.
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Unquestionably, players must crack the code of terms and conditions before swooping up offers or bonuses. But are we justifiably passing the buck entirely onto them? The real conundrum, perhaps, is the enigmatic veil of the terms and conditions. Ought the casino lords not take on some accountability for clarifying their cryptic language? Could they not swap the riddles with plain speak? In doing so, they might guarantee their clientele know precisely what they're getting into.
To stir the pot, should there not be a watchdog to scrutinize these terms' lucidity, akin to other industries? In this way, both casinos and players would be tethered to a fairness standard, a level playing field.
To stir the pot, should there not be a watchdog to scrutinize these terms' lucidity, akin to other industries? In this way, both casinos and players would be tethered to a fairness standard, a level playing field.
Yes, I know what you mean, sometimes it is difficult to discover the true essence of the terms and conditions , but when we read carefully , which is difficult because we can say that things can flow normally because knowing the terms and everything we must comply with and do to be able to enjoy certain benefits things can be seen as good or bad, but that is our decision whether it is accepted or not , as far as I am concerned Whenever they give bonuses or promotions in any casino I learned that you must read very well , because a detail that escapes things can cause discomfort.
But usually I contact support straight away if I don't understand any of their terms and conditions, through support it's usually easier for me to understand.
For the times I've ever had to read terms and conditions of some companies (not completely though), it's always been completed, I feel like they want you to have a dictionary by your side when ever you are to read their terms and conditions, because the wordings are mostly where the confusion sprouts from.
Well, in terms of gambling, its always good to contact the customer care when ever one is confused with any part of the terms and condition, but when signing a contract with a company, one have to hire a lawyer to read and explain the terms and conditions, in order not to end up signing oneself into something he or she does not understand.
Unquestionably, players must crack the code of terms and conditions before swooping up offers or bonuses. But are we justifiably passing the buck entirely onto them? The real conundrum, perhaps, is the enigmatic veil of the terms and conditions. Ought the casino lords not take on some accountability for clarifying their cryptic language? Could they not swap the riddles with plain speak? In doing so, they might guarantee their clientele know precisely what they're getting into.
To stir the pot, should there not be a watchdog to scrutinize these terms' lucidity, akin to other industries? In this way, both casinos and players would be tethered to a fairness standard, a level playing field.
To stir the pot, should there not be a watchdog to scrutinize these terms' lucidity, akin to other industries? In this way, both casinos and players would be tethered to a fairness standard, a level playing field.
Yes, I know what you mean, sometimes it is difficult to discover the true essence of the terms and conditions , but when we read carefully , which is difficult because we can say that things can flow normally because knowing the terms and everything we must comply with and do to be able to enjoy certain benefits things can be seen as good or bad, but that is our decision whether it is accepted or not , as far as I am concerned Whenever they give bonuses or promotions in any casino I learned that you must read very well , because a detail that escapes things can cause discomfort.
But usually I contact support straight away if I don't understand any of their terms and conditions, through support it's usually easier for me to understand.
Its important to understand what we are reading so if there's confusion regarding om the rules they set we must really ask the support to have clear insights about their written text. Its good to have clear information rather than reading it fast without understanding what you read since maybe this one will create confusion on your side especially when there's trouble will happen on our accounts. Support is there to answer our question so there's no need to be shy to ask them since its their job to answer their clients and help them on their inquiries.
Unquestionably, players must crack the code of terms and conditions before swooping up offers or bonuses. But are we justifiably passing the buck entirely onto them? The real conundrum, perhaps, is the enigmatic veil of the terms and conditions. Ought the casino lords not take on some accountability for clarifying their cryptic language? Could they not swap the riddles with plain speak? In doing so, they might guarantee their clientele know precisely what they're getting into.
To stir the pot, should there not be a watchdog to scrutinize these terms' lucidity, akin to other industries? In this way, both casinos and players would be tethered to a fairness standard, a level playing field.
To stir the pot, should there not be a watchdog to scrutinize these terms' lucidity, akin to other industries? In this way, both casinos and players would be tethered to a fairness standard, a level playing field.
Yes, I know what you mean, sometimes it is difficult to discover the true essence of the terms and conditions , but when we read carefully , which is difficult because we can say that things can flow normally because knowing the terms and everything we must comply with and do to be able to enjoy certain benefits things can be seen as good or bad, but that is our decision whether it is accepted or not , as far as I am concerned Whenever they give bonuses or promotions in any casino I learned that you must read very well , because a detail that escapes things can cause discomfort.
But usually I contact support straight away if I don't understand any of their terms and conditions, through support it's usually easier for me to understand.
Yes, I know what you mean, sometimes it is difficult to discover the true essence of the terms and conditions , but when we read carefully , which is difficult because we can say that things can flow normally because knowing the terms and everything we must comply with and do to be able to enjoy certain benefits things can be seen as good or bad, but that is our decision whether it is accepted or not , as far as I am concerned Whenever they give bonuses or promotions in any casino I learned that you must read very well , because a detail that escapes things can cause discomfort.
I agree 100%, for that sometimes its better to avoid some bonuses time to time.
If you not are 100% and its not a really good one i recomend to you to avoid.
There is no need to run after each and every bonus. We need to be careful in selecting which bonus is suitable for us and which one should be avoid.
Let me give you an example. Lets suppose the gambling site is giving bonus on deposit with high wagering requirements. Now you already had a plan to deposit at the casino, so you may deposit and avail this bonus. However if you already have funds at gambling site, depositing only to get this bonus may not be the right idea.
My only regret was not buying alot more V2 Rollbots in the past. You got decent amount from these V2 Bot, even the lowest rarity trait would give you 25k RLB with the current rate its around $850 which is close to the price they sold for from the sale ( I cant remember but I believe it was $1k each ). Anyway Im happy with my current holding, I'll check what Rollbit has in store for their RLB plan and decide if I want to keep or sell my RLB
But lets look on the case of the guy that did bet low odds and profit from cashback which was not banned under t&c - all odds and bets qualify for cashback.
They could tell him this is not welcome and adjust terms but they did steal his money and didnt adjust terms to this day.
This is pure theft. I wonder what did player wrong here as he played right within his rights and t&c.
Is this how reputable sportsbook should work?
He did abuse bonus - mathematically but no bonus conditions did prohibit this. He risked his money as well. It's not like he wasnt at risk.
I wonder if these positive comments are just from regular bettors only or from RLB holders.
They could tell him this is not welcome and adjust terms but they did steal his money and didnt adjust terms to this day.
This is pure theft. I wonder what did player wrong here as he played right within his rights and t&c.
Is this how reputable sportsbook should work?
He did abuse bonus - mathematically but no bonus conditions did prohibit this. He risked his money as well. It's not like he wasnt at risk.
I wonder if these positive comments are just from regular bettors only or from RLB holders.
Can you attached the reference to this issue because I don't see any abused on bet with low odds use unless it was stated in the ToS. It's not the player problem if the casino is on disadvantage on the promotion that they set without clear rules to follow.
Confiscating the win or adjusting the ToS just to use it against that player is a red flag but I hope you have a supporting evidence on it since this is a serious allegtion. I hooe that you are just twisting the guy story to get your way to support your own case. I’m reading your case but please make it brief since not all users here have time to read that kind of long narrative.
Seriously, Please attached the reference link on the specific case that you brought up.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-disables-account-and-seizes-funds-102k-5449402
this is the thread. Not twisting anything even rollbit support did confirm they confiscated money due to this.
Hey this is my thread regarding Rollbit disabling account with 10.2k in it. You can read through it if you have time as it has got longer and longer now. I would say that I have provided significant photos and evidence to support my case, albeit more difficult when they lock your account to provide all evidence...
The biggest problem I (And others) have with RB is that they ignore support emails, give generic explanations and expect the user to be 'OK' with that. Some here have the signature campaign for RB and are a little bias one way or another. I would implore you to look at cases objectively and come to a conclusion based upon facts rather than emotion.
It has been almost 2 months since they locked my account, with the explanations of 'Sportsbook abuse and player is in profit so he didn't lose anything'.
I've said it before but I am always open to suggestions and advice to my case. I keep an open mind and now have the goal to bring awareness to this issue and how it could happen to anyone. Thanks all, much love.
Yes, I know what you mean, sometimes it is difficult to discover the true essence of the terms and conditions , but when we read carefully , which is difficult because we can say that things can flow normally because knowing the terms and everything we must comply with and do to be able to enjoy certain benefits things can be seen as good or bad, but that is our decision whether it is accepted or not , as far as I am concerned Whenever they give bonuses or promotions in any casino I learned that you must read very well , because a detail that escapes things can cause discomfort.
I agree 100%, for that sometimes its better to avoid some bonuses time to time.
If you not are 100% and its not a really good one i recomend to you to avoid.
I plead guilty for not reading some of the bonus rules and some casino conditions and I have paid dearly for it, it has been hard for me to leave the money and not comply with the conditions, because if I had read before grabbing that bonus the things would have been very different, this means that every time we start to see every detail of a bond there is always something that does not add up to us and there, if we choose whether it is convenient or not, this has happened to me many times, and I have Quite a few things to do, a bonus or promotion that has been launched by rollbit is different, this casino does not abuse the terms and conditions of bonuses like other casinos.
It's not easy to realize that we've done something wrong, and I appreciate you when you can realize that you did wrong before. Let it be past, because there is no point in regretting it. Make things like this an experience so we don't make the same mistake in the future.It's normal when we make mistakes, because we are also human beings who may intentionally or unintentionally make mistakes. It's just that we don't let the mistakes we make again in the future, that's something that is not allowed.
It's real, the people who accuse a casino of having defrauded them turn out to be meaningless accusations, and when the case is studied and they realize that they did not read their conditions, things go another way, the best of all ways. It is to read, not to launch at once for some promotion, bonus, or anything that the casino offers without having read it first, consequently we as players will always have advantages because it is not only 1 casino that exists, there are many casinos that we have We have to see which one is the right one, it is their job for casinos to attract players, but if they do not do a good job, no one will go if they cheat with bonuses, promotions.
To stir the pot, should there not be a watchdog to scrutinize these terms' lucidity, akin to other industries? In this way, both casinos and players would be tethered to a fairness standard, a level playing field.
Yes, I know what you mean, sometimes it is difficult to discover the true essence of the terms and conditions , but when we read carefully , which is difficult because we can say that things can flow normally because knowing the terms and everything we must comply with and do to be able to enjoy certain benefits things can be seen as good or bad, but that is our decision whether it is accepted or not , as far as I am concerned Whenever they give bonuses or promotions in any casino I learned that you must read very well , because a detail that escapes things can cause discomfort.
The scam accusations are against every casino and it's not like they don't face these situations but the community checks how they well they handle it.They have been distributing huge rewards to the players and have gained reputation of legit casino so they won't indulge themselves in any of these scam attempts but still there are people who can't handle gambling and start such accusations.
Counting valid scam accusations only as we can not consider invalid scam accusations as bad factor for a reputation of casino.Like if you are a good person, you will have both people who like you and people who hate you. Even you don't know them, they still hate you and they will do something you never imagine to attack you.
A trusted casino surely has many invalid scam accusations against them. Because they are big and have big budget for promotions which attract abusers. They come to abuse generous promotions from a big casino and think that they will be able to withdraw money after that. They can succeed at their first time but later casino will pay more attention on suspicious accounts and terminate them. Withdrawals will become impossible and invalid scam accusations will appear from abusers.
Casinos aren't in the profession of tossing currency to the winds, are they? That brings us to the puzzle of multiple account holders and the exploitation of bonuses. Regarding our chums at Rollbit, they're on top of their game. A commendable reputation like theirs doesn't just apparate, it's earned through a sustained commitment to superior service and, critically, conflict resolution. That's their mainstay, it's their modus operandi.
The scam accusations are against every casino and it's not like they don't face these situations but the community checks how they well they handle it.They have been distributing huge rewards to the players and have gained reputation of legit casino so they won't indulge themselves in any of these scam attempts but still there are people who can't handle gambling and start such accusations. Jump to: