Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount?
I have more trust in a site that requests KYC information when a player registers his account and before the first deposit is made, than a casino that asks for private details when it's time to withdraw money. The practice of not caring who the player is until he wins something significant is sometimes misused by crypto casinos. I would rather be told at the beginning: If you want to play here, you have to do KYC. That way I can either agree and do it, or find an alternative place to gamble. 
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Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount?
I have more trust in a site that requests KYC information when a player registers his account and before the first deposit is made, than a casino that asks for private details when it's time to withdraw money. The practice of not caring who the player is until he wins something significant is sometimes misused by crypto casinos. I would rather be told at the beginning: If you want to play here, you have to do KYC. That way I can either agree and do it, or find an alternative place to gamble. where you can really still have the option neither you do accept or would just simply skip out and find another one.
Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount?
I have more trust in a site that requests KYC information when a player registers his account and before the first deposit is made, than a casino that asks for private details when it's time to withdraw money. The practice of not caring who the player is until he wins something significant is sometimes misused by crypto casinos. I would rather be told at the beginning: If you want to play here, you have to do KYC. That way I can either agree and do it, or find an alternative place to gamble. 
If you are just a small gambler you will enjoy their games. But if you are a really high rollers gambler, and you deposit a large amount. And if you win big and you want to release it and you follow the KYC and AML policy there will be no problem based on the set limit or quota amount.
True.You are wrong. Any gambling site ussually has said on their ToS they have right to ask everyone KYC in any time they want. Even though you only play with small amount, if that's only for money laundering or from any site which isn't permitted to deposit in a casino, your account could be blocked then they ask your KYC or from where the money came from.
Also true.Conclusion: deposit small amounts of clean money = no problem with KYC
Going back to the topic of Roobet & fake bets -- I just wrote this big blog post to spark some further discussion on the topic of Roobet's fraudulent marketing strategies.
You can find the post here: https://twitter.com/CSGOEmpireV2/status/1375068884584267778
Nice post, it seems you still fight for it. The next step would be a legal case with proof, that's the only thing that can clean up the industry. You can find the post here: https://twitter.com/CSGOEmpireV2/status/1375068884584267778
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Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount? In this case, is it not enough to complete kyc once or twice a year? I didn't get any reason why you have to pass kyc each time you have made withdraw/deposit!
AFAIK having a KYC is just a one-time verification and those follow-ups are just for the security of your account just for validation I don't think so this requires to pass every time, also this is for your safety too. and if they just requesting you two times a year there's nothing bad with it. but on my side, as a user to I think it's good to only to have a one-time verification.
Think positive, Roobet do this just for ensuring your safety. They do not get any extra benefit if you verify KYC when withdrawn a big amount of money, Besides they have to do extra work for you to verify your documents.
If you lose your Authenticator device, then your funds is at risk and stranger may try to withdraw it. So, in this case the only way to recover your funds is verifying KYC. That's why, if user start Betting Big amount or deposit big amount Roobet ask for KYC to verify the user and give him permission to withdraw his funds safely.
I also don’t prefer to disclose my identity to online casinos. But it is because of their policy and if we want to continue playing on their platform we have to follow it. They also just follow the rules ... All crypto gambling sites have different and their own rules when it comes to KYC. And it's rare for a site that you need to submit identifications to register or before you can start betting. And here in Roobet, it's not like that. If you are just a small gambler you will enjoy their games. But if you are a really high rollers gambler, and you deposit a large amount. And if you win big and you want to release it and you follow the KYC and AML policy there will be no problem based on the set limit or quota amount. So you have to know this before you play. It's just that simple.
You are wrong. Any gambling site ussually has said on their ToS they have right to ask everyone KYC in any time they want. Even though you only play with small amount, if that's only for money laundering or from any site which isn't permitted to deposit in a casino, your account could be blocked then they ask your KYC or from where the money came from.Not all people check about ToS on a gambling site before they play, most of the time it only got skipped by user.
Mostly this is the problem of people who didn't read the TOS before going unto something and they will get surprised once they ask for certain verification, we can expect that this one might happen especially if we deposit our balance to another third party platform or even on questionable website. We don't need to get afraid for providing our details if the one who ask for it is a trusted site and I don't mind providing it if roobet ask me that for verification purposes.
Going back to the topic of Roobet & fake bets -- I just wrote this big blog post to spark some further discussion on the topic of Roobet's fraudulent marketing strategies.
You can find the post here: https://twitter.com/CSGOEmpireV2/status/1375068884584267778
You can find the post here: https://twitter.com/CSGOEmpireV2/status/1375068884584267778
I also don’t prefer to disclose my identity to online casinos. But it is because of their policy and if we want to continue playing on their platform we have to follow it. They also just follow the rules ... All crypto gambling sites have different and their own rules when it comes to KYC. And it's rare for a site that you need to submit identifications to register or before you can start betting. And here in Roobet, it's not like that. If you are just a small gambler you will enjoy their games. But if you are a really high rollers gambler, and you deposit a large amount. And if you win big and you want to release it and you follow the KYC and AML policy there will be no problem based on the set limit or quota amount. So you have to know this before you play. It's just that simple.
You are wrong. Any gambling site ussually has said on their ToS they have right to ask everyone KYC in any time they want. Even though you only play with small amount, if that's only for money laundering or from any site which isn't permitted to deposit in a casino, your account could be blocked then they ask your KYC or from where the money came from.Not all people check about ToS on a gambling site before they play, most of the time it only got skipped by user.
Hence, I think it would be better if mixers were all banned from all places, from exchanges, from casinos, everything. However in that case you could simply open a blockchain.com account, get a new wallet, send your illegal money from your illegal account to mixer and get it to your new blockchain.com account that is clean and then send it anywhere you see fit, which would be still possible so I do not know what to think about them.
I find it quite complicated to understand of your statement. First, you want mixers got banned on all places, but you suggesting to send the money provided from mixers to a wallet. Doesn't it contradicting yourself? I mean when mixers were banned, you can't using it at all.
Hence, I think it would be better if mixers were all banned from all places, from exchanges, from casinos, everything. However in that case you could simply open a blockchain.com account, get a new wallet, send your illegal money from your illegal account to mixer and get it to your new blockchain.com account that is clean and then send it anywhere you see fit, which would be still possible so I do not know what to think about them.
I find it quite complicated to understand of your statement. First, you want mixers got banned on all places, but you suggesting to send the money provided from mixers to a wallet. Doesn't it contradicting yourself? I mean when mixers were banned, you can't using it at all.
Second, if you suggestion is work... It sound like you're want cheating on Roobet TOS isn't?
I also don’t prefer to disclose my identity to online casinos. But it is because of their policy and if we want to continue playing on their platform we have to follow it. They also just follow the rules ... All crypto gambling sites have different and their own rules when it comes to KYC. And it's rare for a site that you need to submit identifications to register or before you can start betting. And here in Roobet, it's not like that. If you are just a small gambler you will enjoy their games. But if you are a really high rollers gambler, and you deposit a large amount. And if you win big and you want to release it and you follow the KYC and AML policy there will be no problem based on the set limit or quota amount. So you have to know this before you play. It's just that simple.
Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount? In this case, is it not enough to complete kyc once or twice a year? I didn't get any reason why you have to pass kyc each time you have made withdraw/deposit!
AFAIK having a KYC is just a one-time verification and those follow-ups are just for the security of your account just for validation I don't think so this requires to pass every time, also this is for your safety too. and if they just requesting you two times a year there's nothing bad with it. but on my side, as a user to I think it's good to only to have a one-time verification.
Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount? In this case, is it not enough to complete kyc once or twice a year? I didn't get any reason why you have to pass kyc each time you have made withdraw/deposit!
If that is the rules implied to them by the government then Who are they to ignore ?We are only reacting as gambler and wanted to play an win , But them as gambling operator also wanted to Do Business without Hassle .
So implementation of whatever required to them is part of the system .
so better comply or find another place to play simple as that.
Only case it should be is if it is a legality battle, if there is a problem, if there is a scam, if a customer tries to steal from the casino, ask for their KYC by saying you will pay them if they send their KYC and still do not pay them and send their information to related places as a criminal who stole from you. Otherwise I do not see why KYC should be anything in anywhere, it is online gambling and I haven't given any of my info in any casino yet.
Actually, it is to put off an issue that is resolved in the ToS, each player is a particular case and is evaluated by a system that determines it based on a series of information that takes him to that point, freezing the account, it is not Someone randomly points to certain accounts to block. Although cases have been seen.
If the system blocks you, go to its review process and voila, if you do not pass it, the system must be determining something that relates to your funds in some of its prohibitions, sometimes we forget that Txs have a long history of transactions and sometimes they may have been involved in obscure transactions that are not known a priori by their ultimate recipient, but in this case the evidence over your good faith prevails. You can always review the funds you have and know if they are related to a previous shady business.
If the system blocks you, go to its review process and voila, if you do not pass it, the system must be determining something that relates to your funds in some of its prohibitions, sometimes we forget that Txs have a long history of transactions and sometimes they may have been involved in obscure transactions that are not known a priori by their ultimate recipient, but in this case the evidence over your good faith prevails. You can always review the funds you have and know if they are related to a previous shady business.
can someone from support please confirm when kyc documents are needed? it says when depositing or withdrawing cash but neither of those appear to be options to begin with. at what point are the documents needed? this is a big concern to me
I checked their AML policy and it looks like you always need to do KYC when withdrawing from Roobet for the first time (though it's just filling in name/date of birth/country), and then you have to do a stricter KYC each time you withdraw $2000 or deposit $2000, that involves your ID or passport/driver's license.
For depositing/withdrawing more than $5000, you need to give them your source of wealth.
Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount? In this case, is it not enough to complete kyc once or twice a year? I didn't get any reason why you have to pass kyc each time you have made withdraw/deposit!
We are only reacting as gambler and wanted to play an win , But them as gambling operator also wanted to Do Business without Hassle .
So implementation of whatever required to them is part of the system .
so better comply or find another place to play simple as that.
True but im aint seeing any complaints into this thread for a bit of a time about Kyc and basing off on how big those players been earning on this site and those big hits then they do make out withdrawals
without any problems or complaints which would really be putting up the question if they do really implement out that $2000 deposit/withdrawal kyc or not?
When it comes to regulations and since these businesses are regulated then theres nothing you can do as a user.If you do find out hassle or not appealing at all
then you can always opt out to find for another one but i doubt that it is really becoming a standard.
One more doubt is that do you close the account if the coins came from a mixer as per the image posted by the user it says that and i have not heard any situation where a gambling account is closed because they used mixers.
I think using mixing service is not belongs to severe-risked indicators. If their system is able to detect about it and think the funding source is suspicious then they've the rights for asking KYC and earning source, Accounts getting suspend only if the core team detect that the risk to be related to illegal activities.Hence, I think it would be better if mixers were all banned from all places, from exchanges, from casinos, everything. However in that case you could simply open a blockchain.com account, get a new wallet, send your illegal money from your illegal account to mixer and get it to your new blockchain.com account that is clean and then send it anywhere you see fit, which would be still possible so I do not know what to think about them.
can someone from support please confirm when kyc documents are needed? it says when depositing or withdrawing cash but neither of those appear to be options to begin with. at what point are the documents needed? this is a big concern to me
I checked their AML policy and it looks like you always need to do KYC when withdrawing from Roobet for the first time (though it's just filling in name/date of birth/country), and then you have to do a stricter KYC each time you withdraw $2000 or deposit $2000, that involves your ID or passport/driver's license.
For depositing/withdrawing more than $5000, you need to give them your source of wealth.
Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount? In this case, is it not enough to complete kyc once or twice a year? I didn't get any reason why you have to pass kyc each time you have made withdraw/deposit!
We are only reacting as gambler and wanted to play an win , But them as gambling operator also wanted to Do Business without Hassle .
So implementation of whatever required to them is part of the system .
so better comply or find another place to play simple as that.
can someone from support please confirm when kyc documents are needed? it says when depositing or withdrawing cash but neither of those appear to be options to begin with. at what point are the documents needed? this is a big concern to me
I checked their AML policy and it looks like you always need to do KYC when withdrawing from Roobet for the first time (though it's just filling in name/date of birth/country), and then you have to do a stricter KYC each time you withdraw $2000 or deposit $2000, that involves your ID or passport/driver's license.
For depositing/withdrawing more than $5000, you need to give them your source of wealth.
Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount? In this case, is it not enough to complete kyc once or twice a year? I didn't get any reason why you have to pass kyc each time you have made withdraw/deposit!
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Looks like there is a scam accusation here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56626251
That guy is caught for suspicious depositing behavior. I don't know, maybe his funds came from an illegal source, maybe Roobet asked him to provide his earning source-related documents.Only Roobet team will be able to give a good explanation about this, wait, and see how they handle this issue.
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@Swordsoffreedom I googled their KYC rules and found an previous KYC related post, and I feel that the op needs to verify if he’s falling foul of those KYC rules.
I checked their AML policy and it looks like you always need to do KYC when withdrawing from Roobet for the first time (though it's just filling in name/date of birth/country), and then you have to do a stricter KYC each time you withdraw $2000 or deposit $2000, that involves your ID or passport/driver's license.
For depositing/withdrawing more than $5000, you need to give them your source of wealth.
For depositing/withdrawing more than $5000, you need to give them your source of wealth.
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Also found another Reddit post where once users reported foul on thier KYC policy they quickly worked on removing it, hence I feel that they’ll solve this amicably.
Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Roobet/comments/jojko1/warning_roobet_updated_the_aml_but_not_publicly/
Also found another Reddit post where once users reported foul on thier KYC policy they quickly worked on removing it, hence I feel that they’ll solve this amicably.
Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Roobet/comments/jojko1/warning_roobet_updated_the_aml_but_not_publicly/
Nice query,
Though Roobet has zero percent tolerance about breaking their rules but they were always on the side of the users, listened to them, and solved their problems nicely. In fact, Roobet is very user-friendly from the beginning and they are transparent on their rules and regulations. I think OP failed to provide the transparency of his source of wealth, that's why he got perma-blocked.
Looks like there is a scam accusation here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56626251
That guy is caught for suspicious depositing behavior. I don't know, maybe his funds came from an illegal source, maybe Roobet asked him to provide his earning source-related documents.Only Roobet team will be able to give a good explanation about this, wait, and see how they handle this issue.
One more doubt is that do you close the account if the coins came from a mixer as per the image posted by the user it says that and i have not heard any situation where a gambling account is closed because they used mixers.
I think using mixing service is not belongs to severe-risked indicators. If their system is able to detect about it and think the funding source is suspicious then they've the rights for asking KYC and earning source, Accounts getting suspend only if the core team detect that the risk to be related to illegal activities.@Swordsoffreedom I googled their KYC rules and found an previous KYC related post, and I feel that the op needs to verify if he’s falling foul of those KYC rules.
can someone from support please confirm when kyc documents are needed? it says when depositing or withdrawing cash but neither of those appear to be options to begin with. at what point are the documents needed? this is a big concern to me
I checked their AML policy and it looks like you always need to do KYC when withdrawing from Roobet for the first time (though it's just filling in name/date of birth/country), and then you have to do a stricter KYC each time you withdraw $2000 or deposit $2000, that involves your ID or passport/driver's license.
For depositing/withdrawing more than $5000, you need to give them your source of wealth.
Quote from: https://roobet.com
Three-step Verification:
Step one verification: - KYC
Step one verification is a simple KYC (Know your customer), which must be done by every user and customer to withdraw. Regarding the choice of payment, the amount of payment, the amount of withdrawing, the choice of withdrawing, and nationality of the user/customer step one verification must be done first.
Step one verification is an online document that must be filled out by the user/customer himself faithfully. The following information must be filled in: first name, second name, date of birth, country of usual residence.
We do not allow any withdraws of funds until the KYC is filled in and approved. In case of misinformation or unfaithful filling in we may hold the funds until the KYC is approved. We may ask you to do Step two verification first before withdrawing any funds if you filled in intentionally wrong information’s in the KYC online document.
Step two verification: AML 1
Step two verification, an ID check, and electronic origin check must be done by every user which deposit over 2000$ (two thousand Dollar) or withdraws over 2000$ (two thousand Dollar) or sends another user over 1000$ (one thousand Dollar), over the period of 24 months.
Until step two verification is done the withdraw, tip, or deposit will be held. Step to verification will lead the user or customer to a subpage where he must submit his ID. The user/customer has to take a picture of his ID, while a paperclip with a six-digit random generated number is next to his ID: Only an official ID may be used for ID verification, depending on the country the variety of accepted IDs may be different. (Normally these are: Driving license, Passport, Identity card. Depending on your country of origin this may variate)
There will also be an electronic check if the filled-in Data from the step one verification, the KYC, match. The electronic check will check via two different databanks to insure the given information matches with the filled document and the name from the ID. In addition, this electronic check crosschecks the origin of the user/customer as well as his state of residence and address.
If the electronic test fails or is not possible the user/customer is required to send in confirmation of his current residence. A certificate of registration by the government or a similar document is required. In cases where no such certificate exists the utility bills of the last 6 months may be used.
Step three verification: AML 2
Step three verification, verification of the source of funds, must be done by every user which deposit over 5000$ (five thousand Dollar) or withdraws over 5000$ (five thousand Dollar) or sends another user over 3000$ (three thousand Dollar), over the period of 24 months.
Until step three verification is done the withdraw, tip, or deposit will be held. For step 3 a user/customer will be asked for a source of wealth.The user/customer has to upload a document proving his source of wealth via a subpage.
Step one verification: - KYC
Step one verification is a simple KYC (Know your customer), which must be done by every user and customer to withdraw. Regarding the choice of payment, the amount of payment, the amount of withdrawing, the choice of withdrawing, and nationality of the user/customer step one verification must be done first.
Step one verification is an online document that must be filled out by the user/customer himself faithfully. The following information must be filled in: first name, second name, date of birth, country of usual residence.
We do not allow any withdraws of funds until the KYC is filled in and approved. In case of misinformation or unfaithful filling in we may hold the funds until the KYC is approved. We may ask you to do Step two verification first before withdrawing any funds if you filled in intentionally wrong information’s in the KYC online document.
Step two verification: AML 1
Step two verification, an ID check, and electronic origin check must be done by every user which deposit over 2000$ (two thousand Dollar) or withdraws over 2000$ (two thousand Dollar) or sends another user over 1000$ (one thousand Dollar), over the period of 24 months.
Until step two verification is done the withdraw, tip, or deposit will be held. Step to verification will lead the user or customer to a subpage where he must submit his ID. The user/customer has to take a picture of his ID, while a paperclip with a six-digit random generated number is next to his ID: Only an official ID may be used for ID verification, depending on the country the variety of accepted IDs may be different. (Normally these are: Driving license, Passport, Identity card. Depending on your country of origin this may variate)
There will also be an electronic check if the filled-in Data from the step one verification, the KYC, match. The electronic check will check via two different databanks to insure the given information matches with the filled document and the name from the ID. In addition, this electronic check crosschecks the origin of the user/customer as well as his state of residence and address.
If the electronic test fails or is not possible the user/customer is required to send in confirmation of his current residence. A certificate of registration by the government or a similar document is required. In cases where no such certificate exists the utility bills of the last 6 months may be used.
Step three verification: AML 2
Step three verification, verification of the source of funds, must be done by every user which deposit over 5000$ (five thousand Dollar) or withdraws over 5000$ (five thousand Dollar) or sends another user over 3000$ (three thousand Dollar), over the period of 24 months.
Until step three verification is done the withdraw, tip, or deposit will be held. For step 3 a user/customer will be asked for a source of wealth.The user/customer has to upload a document proving his source of wealth via a subpage.
Also found another Reddit post where once users reported foul on thier KYC policy they quickly worked on removing it, hence I feel that they’ll solve this amicably.
Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Roobet/comments/jojko1/warning_roobet_updated_the_aml_but_not_publicly/
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