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Quote from: pawanjain on November 13, 2020, 09:33:13 AM

Are these odds normal ?
Few days back I was playing the crash game and everything was going fine until the negative strike hit me hard.
At first I thought the next bet would at least go 2x but it was a crash.
It repeated for more than 10+ times and it drained all my funds. At the end I lost all my funds and my account had 0 balance.

Crashing 14 times in sequence. Is this normal ?

I can say, that's normal. Yesterday, i saw on other popular crash game site, it has 12 streak losses under 2x multipler. If you think 14 losses aren't normal, that site will bankrupt since you only need bankroll which can cover your losses 14 times in a row. Each hash also unique, you can't say it's not normal too since no one knows what's the next result from each next hash.

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Quote from: Danslip on November 15, 2020, 04:08:07 PM

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Quote from: bitgolden on November 15, 2020, 11:43:44 AM

^Martingale is something you do for quick short periods and stop and not continue forever, you could try to martingale way your into the bank but you are going to get bankrupted before any of that happens. Obviously you could lose your first 10 bets in a row and never win anything and only lose, however that is not that much common (even though quite possible) which means you could potentially 2x your profit and stop there.

If you could just open your gambling account every day, put 10 bucks, double it, stop and repeat this every day, if you lose that 10 dollars you stop, you could do this 20 or so times a month, and lose 10 or so times a month, meaning you would make 200 dollars profit. This is the idea where professional martingale players do. At 15/15 you break even, and anything above you get a profit, anything under you lose. Never continue forever, stop when you lose base or win double.

Without martingale (which is an aggressive approach when you double/triple your bets after losing one/two or more bets) I think we can't make profit! It's some basic, over time you need to rise your bets if you wish to make some big wins, or at least to rise odds, it's one or other!
I tried with some bankroll strategies, to make 10-20% every day, to make double from a specific amount... all that gone to air, maybe I didn't have patience, or good strategy... who knows, but I am still trying, that's what counts I guess!

Depending on the aggression level, money management strategies can be the reason why gamblers burn the bankroll faster than the blink of an eye. Sometimes, I prefer to increase the risks and hope to win bigger with the same bet amount instead of sitting on the same R:R with an increasing bet amount. Playing with odds is safer than wasting the money for the initial win amount which is the main problem in Martingale strategy, IMHO.

Many are agressive but yet many cannot think clear when they starting to lose since for sure the only thing came from our minds is to get those loses back that's why we try some certain things like adding bets or other more. And I don't think playing with odds is much safer since when you are at unlucky situation for sure you will encounter more losses and that will affect our emotion and game. That's why I agree with the other people saying that 10%-20% bank roll management is good since for sure we will not be burnout by that and maybe in next day we can recover and win when place our bet again.

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Quote from: iv4n on November 15, 2020, 12:37:55 PM

Quote from: bitgolden on November 15, 2020, 11:43:44 AM

^Martingale is something you do for quick short periods and stop and not continue forever, you could try to martingale way your into the bank but you are going to get bankrupted before any of that happens. Obviously you could lose your first 10 bets in a row and never win anything and only lose, however that is not that much common (even though quite possible) which means you could potentially 2x your profit and stop there.

If you could just open your gambling account every day, put 10 bucks, double it, stop and repeat this every day, if you lose that 10 dollars you stop, you could do this 20 or so times a month, and lose 10 or so times a month, meaning you would make 200 dollars profit. This is the idea where professional martingale players do. At 15/15 you break even, and anything above you get a profit, anything under you lose. Never continue forever, stop when you lose base or win double.

Without martingale (which is an aggressive approach when you double/triple your bets after losing one/two or more bets) I think we can't make profit! It's some basic, over time you need to rise your bets if you wish to make some big wins, or at least to rise odds, it's one or other!
I tried with some bankroll strategies, to make 10-20% every day, to make double from a specific amount... all that gone to air, maybe I didn't have patience, or good strategy... who knows, but I am still trying, that's what counts I guess!

Depending on the aggression level, money management strategies can be the reason why gamblers burn the bankroll faster than the blink of an eye. Sometimes, I prefer to increase the risks and hope to win bigger with the same bet amount instead of sitting on the same R:R with an increasing bet amount. Playing with odds is safer than wasting the money for the initial win amount which is the main problem in Martingale strategy, IMHO.

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Quote from: iv4n on November 15, 2020, 12:37:55 PM

Quote from: bitgolden on November 15, 2020, 11:43:44 AM

^Martingale is something you do for quick short periods and stop and not continue forever, you could try to martingale way your into the bank but you are going to get bankrupted before any of that happens. Obviously you could lose your first 10 bets in a row and never win anything and only lose, however that is not that much common (even though quite possible) which means you could potentially 2x your profit and stop there.

If you could just open your gambling account every day, put 10 bucks, double it, stop and repeat this every day, if you lose that 10 dollars you stop, you could do this 20 or so times a month, and lose 10 or so times a month, meaning you would make 200 dollars profit. This is the idea where professional martingale players do. At 15/15 you break even, and anything above you get a profit, anything under you lose. Never continue forever, stop when you lose base or win double.

Without martingale (which is an aggressive approach when you double/triple your bets after losing one/two or more bets) I think we can't make profit! It's some basic, over time you need to rise your bets if you wish to make some big wins, or at least to rise odds, it's one or other!
I tried with some bankroll strategies, to make 10-20% every day, to make double from a specific amount... all that gone to air, maybe I didn't have patience, or good strategy... who knows, but I am still trying, that's what counts I guess!

It doesnt really need to make use martingale from time to time because setting it on 2x multiplier and roll down then that would really be enough(im talking with dice)

When it comes to roulette and slots then i dont see for this to be that an ideal strategy to make use but there are people who are always fan on using that common strategy called martingale.

10-20% of bankroll on day to day basis will really limit you out on busting yourself on a single day.Know you limit and great discipline and control is much needed on situations like this which isnt simple.

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Quote from: bitgolden on November 15, 2020, 11:43:44 AM

^Martingale is something you do for quick short periods and stop and not continue forever, you could try to martingale way your into the bank but you are going to get bankrupted before any of that happens. Obviously you could lose your first 10 bets in a row and never win anything and only lose, however that is not that much common (even though quite possible) which means you could potentially 2x your profit and stop there.

If you could just open your gambling account every day, put 10 bucks, double it, stop and repeat this every day, if you lose that 10 dollars you stop, you could do this 20 or so times a month, and lose 10 or so times a month, meaning you would make 200 dollars profit. This is the idea where professional martingale players do. At 15/15 you break even, and anything above you get a profit, anything under you lose. Never continue forever, stop when you lose base or win double.

Without martingale (which is an aggressive approach when you double/triple your bets after losing one/two or more bets) I think we can't make profit! It's some basic, over time you need to rise your bets if you wish to make some big wins, or at least to rise odds, it's one or other!
I tried with some bankroll strategies, to make 10-20% every day, to make double from a specific amount... all that gone to air, maybe I didn't have patience, or good strategy... who knows, but I am still trying, that's what counts I guess!

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^Martingale is something you do for quick short periods and stop and not continue forever, you could try to martingale way your into the bank but you are going to get bankrupted before any of that happens. Obviously you could lose your first 10 bets in a row and never win anything and only lose, however that is not that much common (even though quite possible) which means you could potentially 2x your profit and stop there.

If you could just open your gambling account every day, put 10 bucks, double it, stop and repeat this every day, if you lose that 10 dollars you stop, you could do this 20 or so times a month, and lose 10 or so times a month, meaning you would make 200 dollars profit. This is the idea where professional martingale players do. At 15/15 you break even, and anything above you get a profit, anything under you lose. Never continue forever, stop when you lose base or win double.

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Quote from: pawanjain on November 14, 2020, 08:57:13 AM

Quote from: Text on November 14, 2020, 02:46:01 AM

@pawanjain, Let it be that if you lose, you have no choice but to accept that. There are only two destinations for our bets, wins, or losses. Good luck if you just return the capital. Not only did you experience that, but so did I and they. As for the dice, I deposited $ 10 and I made $ 88 but I continued using the martingale strategy, but eventually ran out. It's just a pity but that's it. In your case, the base bet of $ 1 on x2 payout is quite high, especially if your bankroll is not large enough. You can easily lose there if you are not lucky.

P.S.
The base bet is not $ 1, however, for me, the doubling of the bet per loss is high especially if the bankroll is less than $ 100. I avoid such a strategy especially if you do not want to lose immediately.

Yeah I had already accepted that because there's pretty much nothing that I can do about it. Yeah I kinda lost it all in the martingale strategy.
I guess it was just a bad timing and a huge bad luck. One mistake I did was to continue the martingale strategy consecutively.
I would generally use the martingale strategy on alternative bets but this I thought that the next bet would definitely go 2x.
This is where the long negative streak turned it's bad luck on me Grin

No issues though. Better luck next time to me.

If you are an old gambler you would know that martingale strategy is not something to depend upon for a long term. It may give you short term profit but if you use it in longer duration, you will end up losing your money. Maybe the site algo determines that we are using martingale and then we started to get all losses in the next bets. Secondly you need to have a very big bankroll to play this because each time a loss will make you double your base bet.

Yeah I understand that this strategy is not good for long term but I don't think that Roobet would me manipulating the crash algorithm for their profits.
I think it was just a bad day because I keep changing my strategies to earn profits.
And I do believe that not everyday is a good day for gambling.

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Quote from: janggernaut on November 15, 2020, 02:59:29 AM

AFAIK there is only 1 site which has higher than roobet, and its freebitco.in has 5% house edge. Most of casino or sites have 1% House edge
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Those casino are unpopular for us who've interest on cryptoccurenct and they even didnt relate with cryptocurrecy, but it does follows betting on $ currency.

Quote from: leventturksoy on November 15, 2020, 03:03:04 AM

Yes I will not be playing on Roobet. I leave my opinion here so that management may potentially see and consider it.

It's good opinion, cause they are need know who's costumer want. Choose another one is better Cheesy

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Quote from: janggernaut on November 15, 2020, 02:59:29 AM

Quote from: leventturksoy on November 15, 2020, 02:08:25 AM

Not convincing at all. The max wins are also fractional of other casinos. Roobet is selling nothing more, it is simply hiding the massive house edge by not displaying it in the open, this is not transparent, and in my opinion, that is untrustworthy.

I think Roobet is doing so good with marketing everywhere, especially Twitch (aka Xposed and co) that has been attracting new and un-educated gamblers who are too naive to know that there are better alternatives.

I share my honest opinion.

Simple, if you feel you don't like playing on roobet because their House Edge too high, don't play and move to other casino.

Quote from: niall51 on November 15, 2020, 01:43:00 AM

That's was the deal T&C *ticked*, those many casino or dice site with big House Edge than Roobet.

AFAIK there is only 1 site which has higher than roobet, and its freebitco.in has 5% house edge. Most of casino or sites have 1% House edge

Yes I will not be playing on Roobet. I leave my opinion here so that management may potentially see and consider it.

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Quote from: leventturksoy on November 15, 2020, 02:08:25 AM

Not convincing at all. The max wins are also fractional of other casinos. Roobet is selling nothing more, it is simply hiding the massive house edge by not displaying it in the open, this is not transparent, and in my opinion, that is untrustworthy.

I think Roobet is doing so good with marketing everywhere, especially Twitch (aka Xposed and co) that has been attracting new and un-educated gamblers who are too naive to know that there are better alternatives.

I share my honest opinion.

Simple, if you feel you don't like playing on roobet because their House Edge too high, don't play and move to other casino.

Quote from: niall51 on November 15, 2020, 01:43:00 AM

That's was the deal T&C *ticked*, those many casino or dice site with big House Edge than Roobet.

AFAIK there is only 1 site which has higher than roobet, and its freebitco.in has 5% house edge. Most of casino or sites have 1% House edge

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Quote from: leventturksoy on November 15, 2020, 12:55:52 AM

I signed up for an account on Roobet. 2.5% house edge on dice? I laughed my head off all the way to the little round x at the top of my browser.

That's was the deal T&C *ticked*, those many casino or dice site with big House Edge than Roobet.

There's many of casino with good House Edge and felt like fair, but might Roobet has selling something more.. like guarantee the payout/withdrawal.

Not convincing at all. The max wins are also fractional of other casinos. Roobet is selling nothing more, it is simply hiding the massive house edge by not displaying it in the open, this is not transparent, and in my opinion, that is untrustworthy.

I think Roobet is doing so good with marketing everywhere, especially Twitch (aka Xposed and co) that has been attracting new and un-educated gamblers who are too naive to know that there are better alternatives.

I share my honest opinion.

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Quote from: leventturksoy on November 15, 2020, 12:55:52 AM

I signed up for an account on Roobet. 2.5% house edge on dice? I laughed my head off all the way to the little round x at the top of my browser.

That's was the deal T&C *ticked*, those many casino or dice site with big House Edge than Roobet.

There's many of casino with good House Edge and felt like fair, but might Roobet has selling something more.. like guarantee the payout/withdrawal.

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I signed up for an account on Roobet. 2.5% house edge on dice? I laughed my head off all the way to the little round x at the top of my browser.

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Quote from: virasog on November 14, 2020, 11:22:08 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on November 14, 2020, 08:57:13 AM

Quote from: Text on November 14, 2020, 02:46:01 AM

@pawanjain, Let it be that if you lose, you have no choice but to accept that. There are only two destinations for our bets, wins, or losses. Good luck if you just return the capital. Not only did you experience that, but so did I and they. As for the dice, I deposited $ 10 and I made $ 88 but I continued using the martingale strategy, but eventually ran out. It's just a pity but that's it. In your case, the base bet of $ 1 on x2 payout is quite high, especially if your bankroll is not large enough. You can easily lose there if you are not lucky.

P.S.
The base bet is not $ 1, however, for me, the doubling of the bet per loss is high especially if the bankroll is less than $ 100. I avoid such a strategy especially if you do not want to lose immediately.

Yeah I had already accepted that because there's pretty much nothing that I can do about it. Yeah I kinda lost it all in the martingale strategy.
I guess it was just a bad timing and a huge bad luck. One mistake I did was to continue the martingale strategy consecutively.
I would generally use the martingale strategy on alternative bets but this I thought that the next bet would definitely go 2x.
This is where the long negative streak turned it's bad luck on me Grin

No issues though. Better luck next time to me.

If you are an old gambler you would know that martingale strategy is not something to depend upon for a long term. It may give you short term profit but if you use it in longer duration, you will end up losing your money. Maybe the site algo determines that we are using martingale and then we started to get all losses in the next bets. Secondly you need to have a very big bankroll to play this because each time a loss will make you double your base bet.

Even if we have enough bankroll, martingale strategy is really not feasible. Imagine with an initial bet of $1 and losing streak of 10
1x2, 2x2, 4x2 ........ 512x2 : $1,024 we managed to hit on the last bet and see the results are only $ 1 profit Cheesy

As you said maybe the Martingale strategy works for a short time not for a long time.

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Quote from: pawanjain on November 14, 2020, 08:57:13 AM

Quote from: Text on November 14, 2020, 02:46:01 AM

@pawanjain, Let it be that if you lose, you have no choice but to accept that. There are only two destinations for our bets, wins, or losses. Good luck if you just return the capital. Not only did you experience that, but so did I and they. As for the dice, I deposited $ 10 and I made $ 88 but I continued using the martingale strategy, but eventually ran out. It's just a pity but that's it. In your case, the base bet of $ 1 on x2 payout is quite high, especially if your bankroll is not large enough. You can easily lose there if you are not lucky.

P.S.
The base bet is not $ 1, however, for me, the doubling of the bet per loss is high especially if the bankroll is less than $ 100. I avoid such a strategy especially if you do not want to lose immediately.

Yeah I had already accepted that because there's pretty much nothing that I can do about it. Yeah I kinda lost it all in the martingale strategy.
I guess it was just a bad timing and a huge bad luck. One mistake I did was to continue the martingale strategy consecutively.
I would generally use the martingale strategy on alternative bets but this I thought that the next bet would definitely go 2x.
This is where the long negative streak turned it's bad luck on me Grin

No issues though. Better luck next time to me.

If you are an old gambler you would know that martingale strategy is not something to depend upon for a long term. It may give you short term profit but if you use it in longer duration, you will end up losing your money. Maybe the site algo determines that we are using martingale and then we started to get all losses in the next bets. Secondly you need to have a very big bankroll to play this because each time a loss will make you double your base bet.

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Quote from: davinchi on November 14, 2020, 11:32:43 AM

Quote from: pawanjain on November 13, 2020, 09:33:13 AM

What do you mean by "normal"? I mean it is obvious that it is not common, usually you do not have 10+ streaks of under 2.00 when you look at average what happens in crash or dice games or even roulette. However when you say "normal" in that way I assume you try to say something like casino tried to make you lose because you were gambling and winning, so they had to go out of their way to figure out a way to make you lose and they manually made you lose 10+ times in a row to get all of your money.

It's normal. But it's rare to happen, OP is just unlucky to have witness those red streaks occur, and it happens that he is increasing his bet as red crash shows.
It's just like the winning streak for green one, sometimes you can notice 10 or even more green streaks on crash.
It's normal if, you'll see it if you are playing more time on crash.

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Don't know what you are moaning about guys! Such loosing/winning sreaks are very common and I've seen much longer than this one.
Anyway, here is how to verify crash game results:
https://roobet.com/fair then click/tap "crash"
You will get the hash of the server seed and the client seed used to generate the results, so no way the casino may maupilate them.
OP just got unlucky and that's all!

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Quote from: pawanjain on November 13, 2020, 09:33:13 AM

Are these odds normal ?
Few days back I was playing the crash game and everything was going fine until the negative strike hit me hard.
At first I thought the next bet would at least go 2x but it was a crash.
It repeated for more than 10+ times and it drained all my funds. At the end I lost all my funds and my account had 0 balance.

Crashing 14 times in sequence. Is this normal ?

It happens, the longest loss sequence <2.00x was more than 47 on a row a few months ago. IIRC, there was a thread which explains the statistical probability of hitting high multipliers on crash based games(Crash, Rocket, Blast) on a gambling board. ~~I will find and quote that thread as a reference.~~
For understanding the reason why crash crashes fast, check this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-reason-why-crash-games-usually-crash-at-lower-values-5265896

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Quote from: pawanjain on November 13, 2020, 09:33:13 AM

Are these odds normal ?
Few days back I was playing the crash game and everything was going fine until the negative strike hit me hard.
At first I thought the next bet would at least go 2x but it was a crash.
It repeated for more than 10+ times and it drained all my funds. At the end I lost all my funds and my account had 0 balance.

Crashing 14 times in sequence. Is this normal ?

What do you mean by "normal"? I mean it is obvious that it is not common, usually you do not have 10+ streaks of under 2.00 when you look at average what happens in crash or dice games or even roulette. However when you say "normal" in that way I assume you try to say something like casino tried to make you lose because you were gambling and winning, so they had to go out of their way to figure out a way to make you lose and they manually made you lose 10+ times in a row to get all of your money.

Is that what you think happened? Because if you think that is the situation, you should stay away from gambling forever, since losing 10+ in a row may not be common but it is definitely possible more often than you think it is and casinos do not need few hundred dollars from a person.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on November 13, 2020, 04:20:13 PM

Gambling sites which offers inbuilt exchanges will face legal issues sooner or later for Money laundering activities so better stick with their current Tos of only withdraw in the same currency is good for their future.

Gambling site like Bitsler (I remember it is Bitlser) will refund your deposit if they detect suspicious things from your deposits (from money laundering or if you mixed your coins and use them to make deposits).

Try to operate a clean crypto gambling site is good and has a restriction to withdraw with same coin you deposit is good prevention. People asked for exchange on casinos to have cheaper fee when they withdraw money. Sometimes Bitcoin or Ethereum has expensive transaction fees and exchange them to other coins to save fees is good.

For a customer it looks a good service to have but from the gambling site's perspective it could end up their whole business even if one person starts to abuse the services for illicit purpose. I feel having different priority fee structure may work better for both sides when the mempool gets clogged so people can pay less if they don't want to take the burden and have to wait until it gets confirmed.

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