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Quote from: el kaka22 on December 28, 2019, 04:40:34 AM

I think the "honest" part of the casino is found now, they are charging a loot more on their house edge compared to other houses and they are telling you that they will take your money away faster than any other website on the planet and since they don't lie about it and they are actually telling how high their house edge is they could be considered honest.

Normally, if you charged anyone this type of insane high house edge, you may want to lie about it since you wouldn't want people to run away, but they seem to not care about people who run away from the high house edge so they just tell the truth about the insanity of their house edge. Shouldn't that be considered a bit honest at least? Kinda feels like a scammer who tells you "I will not pay you back" and being honest about it.

Maybe we should give them some space, they have done something now, they are building on top of that and trying to make this work. If the discussion gets stuck with the part where they are getting more and more money from the customers (I can't stop myself) than they can't improve a single bit, the discussion will stick to house edge and move forward.

Let's do it this way, okay they are charging a sector high house edge, it shouldn't have been done but its done, what now?

I mean since they literally spiked their house edge, there must be something they are thinking about improving with that much money, in reality they are probably making less money than all other 1% places because there are less people gambling here but even if millions of people gamble here, the purpose of higher house edge should be for something, not just to make more money and end of discussion. Maybe we should here what they have to say about charging so much.

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I think the "honest" part of the casino is found now, they are charging a loot more on their house edge compared to other houses and they are telling you that they will take your money away faster than any other website on the planet and since they don't lie about it and they are actually telling how high their house edge is they could be considered honest.

Normally, if you charged anyone this type of insane high house edge, you may want to lie about it since you wouldn't want people to run away, but they seem to not care about people who run away from the high house edge so they just tell the truth about the insanity of their house edge. Shouldn't that be considered a bit honest at least? Kinda feels like a scammer who tells you "I will not pay you back" and being honest about it.

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Quote from: sana54210 on December 26, 2019, 09:34:41 AM

the moment they changed their website from "fair casino" to "you lose a lot but we also give back a bit" they lost so many customers that even the topic is not moving as fast as it used to, yet they claim the customers are happy so there must be some customers outside of bitcointalk that still fill enough spaces on their casino to make a profit.

From ~~FAIR~~ to ~~HONEST~~ to DISHONEST to ....

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Quote from: salsa321 on December 25, 2019, 01:25:01 AM

Roobet is a scam casino. Don't bet on it.

Okay maybe calling it a "scam" casino is not really the right way to go, they are obviously not a "scam" casino for sure.

However, they are charging one of the highest ever house edges in all of crypto casinos, the moment they changed their website from "fair casino" to "you lose a lot but we also give back a bit" they lost so many customers that even the topic is not moving as fast as it used to, yet they claim the customers are happy so there must be some customers outside of bitcointalk that still fill enough spaces on their casino to make a profit.

Hey, it is their website and they are the ones who are in charge, if they can find some gullible people to gamble and lose money to a record high house edge, then that is a good business model for them and congratz.

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Quote from: panjul07 on December 26, 2019, 05:33:41 AM

So they added the rule after the giveaway ended that makes you not eligible for the prize?
If it is true then it is not good, they should keep the rules as what they had on the first time. They can add new rules before the giveaway ends, but adding new rules after winner is picked is not good at all.
You should get what you win from the giveaway IMO unless the rule was there but you did not notice it.

They added this special rule on the last day only after everyone joined. Grin

I don't care about their 150$, but they are obviously NOT honest, and they do NOT want new users.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on December 26, 2019, 04:38:36 AM

Recently I entered the giveaway draw on discord and won 150$
There where no any special rules.
Then later on the last day they added the rule that new Roobet accounts can't win anything. Grin

So they added the rule after the giveaway ended that makes you not eligible for the prize?
If it is true then it is not good, they should keep the rules as what they had on the first time. They can add new rules before the giveaway ends, but adding new rules after winner is picked is not good at all.
You should get what you win from the giveaway IMO unless the rule was there but you did not notice it.

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I would suggest anyone to AVOID using Roobet as they are NOT honest at all.

We all know what happened with @yahoo62278 here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/roobetcom-not-paying-on-their-mistakes-5206650

Recently I entered the giveaway draw on discord and won 150$
There where no any special rules.
Then later on the last day they added the rule that new Roobet accounts can't win anything. Grin

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Quote from: absolutely-positioned on December 13, 2019, 02:06:40 PM

Our average Return To Player (RTP) on all game modes is ~ 98%.

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on December 15, 2019, 01:29:35 PM

So, the house edge is 6.7%

I'm confused...

Me too. We have 6.7% house edge on roulette, 2,5% on dice - the most popular games. Then we have (~2,5%-3%) on bomb and (0% - 18%) on towers. I assume crash game has negative house edge to meet 2% average? Because if on crash game house edge is also around 5% then your average return to player is equal to 94-97% not 98%.

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Roobet is a scam casino. Don't bet on it.

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In my opinion, a high house edge is fine as long as it clearly displayed on the website so that users can make an informed decision about it. We can't force casinos to lower the HE, so let the free market decides.

Quote from: absolutely-positioned on December 13, 2019, 02:06:40 PM

Our average Return To Player (RTP) on all game modes is ~ 98%.

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on December 15, 2019, 01:29:35 PM

So, the house edge is 6.7%

I'm confused...

Decentralized casino is a myth, lol.

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Quote from: Lottoshi on December 24, 2019, 09:28:23 AM

Can you explain honest how? Is your casino fully decentralized?

The "honest" part of the casino has been in question for a while now.

I mean this house edge deal wasn't really "liked" by a lot of your customers here and there is no one coming here and talking about how awesome it is or how much they liked but there are tons of people who come here and talk about how not proper it is and how they disliked the new house edges that are so high yet for some reason you guys are keep saying many of your customers liked it.

Well, I hope you enjoy people outside of bitcointalk because as long as this continues there will be tons of us who will always focus on how high the house edge here and brigade the topic with this topic and that would make other people see a reason not to play here (why would they when there is much better house edge somewhere else). All in all, I would say fix it.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on December 24, 2019, 06:53:48 AM

I got the email from "Roobet"

The email give me information about instant deposit bitcoin, did this feature will be no confirmation for the transaction of bitcoin.

I didn't receive any email from them. Maybe because I didn't make any deposit yet!
However, when you click on deposit you will see that 1 confirmation is still required:

Quote from: Lottoshi on December 24, 2019, 09:28:23 AM

Can you explain honest how? Is your casino fully decentralized?

It doens't have to be decentralized to be honest.

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Quote from: sana54210 on December 18, 2019, 01:11:08 AM

I don't get people who support the increased house edge. You can't just tell people "we have increased the house edge but we will be giving you more rewards".

You don't know if people like that or not, you don't know if people prefer less house edge and no rewards or even less house edge and still same rewards because there are places that have Christmas giveaways and races and rewards but still keep it at 1% house edge.

If we can somehow talk to person who decided to increase the house edge would be a good idea then maybe we can put some sense into him. But right now we just have a feedback about how horrible it is to increase the house edge just because there are give aways yet the only response we get is "customers love it". Well they don't, here we are as customers who used to play here and some of us even stopped since the house edge increased and telling you that no the customers don't like it but you are not willing to listen.

If you are happy with the house edge and the amount of customers left on the casino and you are willing to lose the customers who will leave because of it, then so be it, we will leave and find a casino with better house edge and you will keep entertaining the customers who are willing to play on a higher house edge.

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Quote from: absolutely-positioned on November 08, 2019, 04:41:03 PM

Can you explain honest how? Is your casino fully decentralized?

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Quote from: ryzaadit on December 24, 2019, 06:53:48 AM

I got the email from "Roobet"

The email give me information about instant deposit bitcoin, did this feature will be no confirmation for the transaction of bitcoin.

You can get a problem if someone using "double spend" the transaction.

How, you selected the user for instant transaction, did the player need to wagger/deposit a minimum amount?

Yap that's what is meant by instant deposit, means that you can play with your deposit without waiting any confirmations.
Indeed it is a bit risky of double spending, but I do think any sites offering instant deposit are aware about it and knows how to deal with it.
If there is no requirement mentioned on the email, I guess this instant deposit applies to all players without any requirements.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on December 24, 2019, 06:53:48 AM

I got the email from "Roobet"

The email give me information about instant deposit bitcoin, did this feature will be no confirmation for the transaction of bitcoin.

You can get a problem if someone using "double spend" the transaction.

How, you selected the user for instant transaction, did the player need to wagger/deposit a minimum amount?

Instant deposit works if you have sent Bitcoin from your wallet and it is immediately credited to your account and does not require confirmation. AFAIK, anyone can enjoy this instant deposit feature as long as you are registered on the site and make deposits in any amount according to the requirements.

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I got the email from "Roobet"

The email give me information about instant deposit bitcoin, did this feature will be no confirmation for the transaction of bitcoin.

You can get a problem if someone using "double spend" the transaction.

How, you selected the user for instant transaction, did the player need to wagger/deposit a minimum amount?

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Quote from: absolutely-positioned on December 15, 2019, 06:04:19 PM

Lots of our players love it because you can hit 14x very easily compared to 36x

Who loves it? I certainly don't, 36X sounds 2.5X better, perhaps "1% better". It is dishonest for casino to say that one can very easily hit 14X payout, now you are just misleading your customers.

When will you pay remaining $9K to yahoo from winning bet your site accepted?

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I don't get people who support the increased house edge. You can't just tell people "we have increased the house edge but we will be giving you more rewards".

You don't know if people like that or not, you don't know if people prefer less house edge and no rewards or even less house edge and still same rewards because there are places that have Christmas giveaways and races and rewards but still keep it at 1% house edge.

Make people compete against each other for a prize if you have to but when you make the house edge anything above 1% (except blackjack maybe) then you are making people leave. I am not saying "everyone" will leave, but there will be people who will leave because of high house edge, we don't care about the rewards when we lose that much anyway.

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Quote from: absolutely-positioned on December 16, 2019, 05:05:54 PM

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Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on December 13, 2019, 06:03:43 AM

@absolutely-positioned Few days ago i've seen "1% house edge" written under each game despite roulette. Now i see that it disappear. I've calculated house edge on dice and its 2,37%. Is it a mistake, temporary increase or permanent? I didn't see any announcement about that. OP still shows 1% house edge.

We are updating this image currently, will be updated today.

Our average Return To Player (RTP) on all game modes is ~ 98%.

You can read more information about our 13 days of Roo promo and site improvements here: https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr3buq

Return to player 98% is a nice way of saying the house edge became 2%. I mean you can call it whatever you want and you can try to trick and make a good marketing and even give reasons and excuses for it but in the end it is 2% house edge and that is double the crypto world standard. If you want to be like freebitcoin that has 5% house edge but gives a lot of stuff for free and has around 150btc+ on average daily gambling volume than go ahead do that but you are not giving away "that" much stuff so far which means the 2% is not justified yet.

You should either drop it back to 1% like almost all other casinos or you should make the giveaways and free stuff a lot more so that the reason of "roowards" would make sense. It is your decision of course, you can stick to your guns as well but I think people will move somewhere with less house edge in that case.

We have increased our on-site rains and giveaways on socials drastically. The reward amount on Roowards (our rakeback system) also increases with this change.

This change was indeed made to provide for more ways of giving back to our users as well as increase our marketing for Roobet, you can read more about this here: http://tl.gd/n_1sr3buq

Thats not how its done. Look at Stake fully transparent and they still have all of these bonuses without need to deceive customers

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