Topic: Ross Ulbricht Guilty of Everything - page 3. (Read 6674 times)

Your post is interesting but i would bet those people on the darknet selling 50k plus private addresses are just scams, why would anyone sell access to that many private addresses with who know how many btc that can be scammed from them for so little, they would just hack the accounts themselfs and get a lot more btc from 1 address than selling 100k private keys for so little, dosen't add up to me but i will do my research and get back to you.
I never doubt anyone without looking into things myself, i am very open minded but find this hard to beleive.

For the sake of the whole BTC community i hope your wrong.

Anyway we are getting off topic so send me the links and we'll leave this thread to the right topic.

I'll be honest, me personally in don't know the exact method but people that do and have done it. But you don't even need that. Log on to any dark market (there's 100's now and some ALOT bigger than silkroad ever was) and you can buy 50,000/100,000 of them for like 0.1btc ATM. And trust me, its possible. All wireless routers are accessible because the the pin is so weak. The first 4 numbers relate to the second 3 and the last is a debug number. I.e, instead of millions of combinations there is only 11,000. Easy to break within a day with software readily available like Kali Linux.

I can spend 3 months setting your computer to be secure and as soon as you connect it to the I ternet I can not guartee anything! Nothing! I'm just a person with a passing interest, you should see what the real people can do out there! Lol.the problems start because were not educated, were programmed at school to be consumers and not to think critically but follow orders. Not to question or be punished! Thank rockerfeller and gates in 1903 for that when they took over how the education system should be ran. And thank ford for fordism and reducing people to mindless robots!

Until the people take the power back and get rid of all centralised systems that manipulate us all nothing will change. Hell, cars even have to come with weather it takes diesel or petrol because some people are that dumb! See the human resources video I posted above (edit: here - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4rnJEdDNDsI) to see just how bad it all is! Were guinea pigs for the rich and powerful. That's just the facts

JP Morgan helped switch the titanic out for the olympoca back in 1912 which netted them 15.8 million on the insurance. Also killing many people against the formation of the fed bank at the same time which came to be in 1913 and america died that day. Incidently, as I have now left, Adam from TMT first ( http://www.tmtfirst.co.uk/ ) in the UK started hanging out with jp Morgan and co. They brought a new gm in called frank moth from amazon no less and now (within 6 months) all the tech team have left (including me) and Adams company as been destroyed under his nose. In 6 months! TMT will not be around by the end of 2015 and adam still does not see whats happening as he's busy been brainwashed by jp morgan. I've witnessed first hand how these sick fuckers work and operate! I've lived in India and south america and extensively traveled (not resorts) so I have experience. But this day and age experience and wiseness is frowned upon over youthfulness and sillyness which is applauded! This is all apart of the social engineering though. Can't blame the zombies, they never stood a chance :-)

My thoughts exactly.

Regarding your other post please don't hack my private keys but if you really can do this then why not report the bug you have found and get a massive reward doing things the right way, just like the guy that found the reused R problem with blockchain wallets.
If this is true then everybody in the BTC community should know that it is being looked at and fixed ASAP.

Thank you thank you thank you! People are such sheep, especially here where mosts peoples motivations are greed! Says it all really! I'm glad someone's paying attention! I've tried but people keep reading the CIA scrypt back to me lol. Oh the irony of it all :-)

An appeal does not allow you to do anything g different though! Just a new judge and jury, the same (restricteded) information as to be used. The mafia runs this world, face the truth! It will set you free!

Do you know how easy it is to manipulate chat logs and pretty much everything! I can get 100,000 of people private keys for bitcoin wallets if I ready wanted right now! Write a bot and bam! I'll have made a load of bitcoins! I won't say exactly how but trust me, I can have that done in minutes!

People are so stupid and blind lol

Seriously? You need proof of that! Fuck you got a lot to learn!

Gladio b
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cze1zVDsQMs

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/nsaebb2.htm

http://pando.com/2014/10/26/the-biggest-cia-drug-money-scandal-you-never-read/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i7gW7QwevFI

Seriously, I can go on and on and on with this! You obviously never used your brain for critical thinking and questioning things and fill it with bullshit that's spoon fed you! Hell, CIA was formed by Prescott bush after WW2 for crying out loud! I'll go even further and show you more, this is title JFK to 911 - its all a richmans trick but it actually goes from the late 1800's to present day. You won't learn nothing in a 10 minute clip and you need look at multiple sources over and over and make YOUR OWN judgement!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

And how do they get everyone to go along with it still today.... Human Resources - Social Engineering!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4rnJEdDNDsI

Even Alex Jones, mark dice, David icke etc etc are apart of the social engineering program providing some truth and steering people the wrong direction. What you'd call a crypto Jew but I'm going a little off track here but all relivent! You wanted proof the CIA are drug runners! Here's more!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-spoils-of-war-afghanistan-s-multibillion-dollar-heroin-trade/91

http://www.mediaroots.org/opium-what-afghanistan-is-really-about/

http://www.thenewamerican.com/mobile-home

https://www.corbettreport.com/the-cia-and-the-drug-trade-eyeopener-preview/

Do you need more evidence or is that enough for you to get started with?

I reduced it to only 2 assumptions about this:

1. Chatlogs/Journal are planted by someone else and therefore they are untrue
2. Chatlogs/Journal are not planted and therefore representing the truth

1.
If the logs telling the truth, Ross at least "thought" he was hiring a hitman and he also "thought" that the job was done several times. He never gave up the site, but he created the lie about this to protect his business, he knew was illegal. He places notes about the murders side by side with some trivial server issues, like (a. watched the pic of a tortured to death guy. b. Server got DDosed)
That speaks a clear language: This guy turned from a nerd into a psychopath and seem to deserve the sentence.

2.
If all the files had been planted by someone else, we only have his statement, that "he is the founder of the site" and he "gave it to someone else" and he "was tricked back into the SR administration site". Poor Ross beeing the fall guy for the "Real DPR" (Karpeles, Variety Jones aka Cimon etc)

Everything looks clear at version 1., but there's a lot of room to speculate about 2.

If Ross was framed, it was most likely not the FBI. It might be possible when I wear my tinfoil baseball cap, but, cmon....
Let's say every statement from Ross/Dratel is true and he was framed by a hacker, who maybe has planted all the proof on his pc, it would have made sense for the defense to present "The Real DPR" as beeing the hacker with the masterplan instead of Karpeles. The "Real DPR" who opened Silkroad 2 just a few weeks after the arrest of Ross Ulbricht and the closing of SR1. He later gave the site up again to another fall guy: Blake Benthall ("Defcon") . The "Real DPR" is still out there!
Possible, that "Variety Jones" aka "Cimon" and "The Real DPR" are the same person:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/who-is-variety-jones-935434

I also can imagine that 1. is right and "The Real DPR" / Variety Jones still framed him at some point, when SR got too much publicity.

Side story: Possible that the hacker Variety Jones found the chatlogs about the hitman stories on Ross' computer and thought "What a fucking asshole. I will teach him how Kingpin wannabees end up"

Best movie title so far: "Variety Jones"

I am not finished reading this thread, but I already have one thing to say:
Everybody, who says he deserves it, because he attempted murder is a FUCKING IDIOT.
Attempted murder was not an accusation in this trial, it has no value whatsoever in this trial.

I doubt being butt-fucked by a big black man is on his list of life's pleasures.

Could be wrong........

- No holidays in Asia
- No Bitoins
- No internet

You think he knew?

At least in local news of my country it got stated several times "Bitcoins worth millions" which will probably stick, and that kind of advertisement at the prime time 

Well, the good news for him is he can find plenty of drugs in prison. There's no need for a hidden marketplace where he's going. Murder for hire only costs a carton of cigarettes. It's real easy to score sex too. I guess prison is perfect for him because everything he loves is available in one place. lol

I would say that he will likely be sentenced to life in prison on the current case, however as mentioned above he will likely win at least one of his appeals which will likely result in at least some of the evidence thrown out (or potentially allow more evidence/testimony in his favor)

I would say the trial that he just went though will be largely ignored

Well..almost certain that he will have to serve life imprisonment.. Only god can save him now..(just my thoughts)

It will probably be at least 6 months before the appellate court even decides if they will hear his case and several additional months before they will make a decision.

I would put the chances of being greater then 75% that he will face another trial for the same charges

Mandatory federal sentencing guidelines requires he be sentenced to a MINIMUM of 20 years and a MAXIMUM of life in prison.

His lawyer said they will appeal.

Thats true that the whole thing wasn't presented.
They are making an example out of him, just like it was the case with Aaron Swartz.

Yea, so he probably is DPR, however the legal system and the US is built around both fairness and due process and fundamental rights. If he is not awarded due process throughout the process of gathering evidence or throughout his trial then his rights have been violated and society as a whole will have been harmed. If he really is a criminal then let law enforcement find/catch him via legal/constitutional means

That is questionable, but that doesn't change the evidence that was on Ross' computer, that he was using, that was logged into SR as DPR.