Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 263. (Read 67747 times)

The establishment by Russia of control over the Donbas and the South of Ukraine is now only a matter of time. Arms deliveries by the West already look more like symbolic gestures than real help. Numerous replacements from the defense are simply not ready to fight, and the most combat-ready parts of Ukraine have already been ground in a meat grinder in the Donbas. I do not think that Russia will stop there, I think Russia will solve the issue with Ukraine systematically and comprehensively.

True statement, but did Ukraine abide by the Minsk agreements from 2014 until 2022?

This is a very scary proposition, to a point where i'm not even sure who's side you're on anymore. Saying that every Ukrainian should fight until Moscow is captured, is setting unattainable goals in which you needlessly doom a lot of Ukrainians to their death. Literally being set up for failure with almost religious undertones as if they're fighting for something greater than all of them, fighting for all of Europe/humanity/free world/galaxy/universe. If Ukrainians are so eager to lay their lives for someone else's war, how about setting them to fight China till the last Ukrainian while we're at it? I'm sure the free world would gladly donate as many weapons as Ukraine can handle. How is any of that is good for Ukrainians??

I maintain my suspicion that Russia has little or no interest in any area but the East and Southern seaboard.  As they take control of real estate in these areas of interest they are just integrated into the Russian federation with massive support of the locals.  As I've said before, the ZioNazi presence for 8 years was a big advantage to Russia over and above simple cultural and language demographics.  The Russian speaking Ukrainians I knew had zero use for Russia so either most of the people in that category already left, or changed their minds after the neocon color revolution and installation of neo-nazi terrorists from 2014 till early 2022.  I mean there are waiting lines around the block for people to get their Russian passports.

So, with these areas locked in (and some loose-end areas to liberate including possibly Odessa unless it just becomes trading stock), Russia might as well give NATO and the neocons the 'Vietnam' they want.  Just have it take place in the Kiev area and West of that.  That should keep the Western military industrial complex busy and rolling in tax dollars, and the JewSA neocon God Moloch happy with a steady stream of souls.

As for longer range destructive capability given to whack-a-doodle psychos like Zelenski and his merry band of Nazis, two can play at that game.  And a nation who has installations and activities all around the world is much more vulnerable.  That only problem is that now and in the foreseeable future on the current trajectory, ruined American equipment to be replaced and dead servicemen 'is not a bug; it's a feature.'  But the thing about whack-a-doodle psychos is that they could hit other things (e.g., corporate owned infrastructure...which may or may not be in competition with native Russian product creating favorable supply/demand curves.)  That's more likely to get the attention of the people who matter (in the WEF, BlackRock, and etc.)  And if that fails to get attention, there is always Israel.

I prefer not to lose sight of the forest by looking at the trees. It seems that Russia's strategy in advancing in the Donbas is slow but effective. The main work is done by drones and artillery with the support of front-line aviation, and armored vehicles and assault squads then clean up the area. Yesterday Kadyrov met with Shoigu and reported on the development of new, more effective and faster tactics.

For a hundred days of the operation, the Russian army clearly showed the West its combat capability. The West has focused too much on counter-terrorist operations in recent decades and has forgotten how to fight on a full scale. Russia has Poseidons and Sarmatians, Zircons and Daggers on combat duty - and the West has no methods how to counteract them. I do not see any real prospects in the feasibility of your plans.

Russia broke all Minsk agreements with Ukraine on Feb 24, 2022.

When dealing with Russia, the "guarantees on paper" are worth less than the paper they are written on.

The West needs to understand that this conflict needs to be resolved militarily not only in Ukraine.

As long as the Russian regime is not defeated, this aggression will continue in other countries.

Russian military needs to be defeated, Moscow needs to be captured, and all Russian nuclear weapons need to be disarmed and deactivated.

If they don't belong to the state, why is the state the one complaining? Shouldn't it be some company stating that it lost so many tons of grain?


It could be better for US but i fail to see how that's better for Ukraine? Every day hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers die and more land is lost, i don't see how that can be better for Ukraine? Minsk agreements (guaranteed by Germany and France) called for autonomy for LPR and DPR, now Russia controls that plus majority of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia. Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Mykolaiv and Odessa also seem to be on the Russian radar. Whatever happens, happens for the best only works for propaganda. Oh they took Kherson and Zaporizhzhia? Well we still won, and loosing thousands lives was worth it cause we saved Dnipr and Odessa. Oh they took Dnipr and Odessa, well see still worth it because we saved Kyiv. Oh they took Kyiv well we still won and sacrificing our army was worth it because we saved Poland? EU? cause surely they would've been next and we caused so many casualties to Russia  

Western allies meeting regularly to game out potential framework for Ukraine ceasefire as war hits 100th day  
Even CNN sentiment and coverage appears to be changing, realpolitiks

Actually they did help. Russians were pushed out and weren't able to take Kiev.
At this point the more Russians die in this war the better for Ukrainians and the numbers keep growing. If a weapon can add to that number it's always good to have it.

This is a good piece. Check it out if you haven't seen it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIZIspwem2s

I was amazed how young squad commanders are. This guy was a total newbie and apparently finished one of the best military schools in Russia.
His superior's vehicle was hit and he didn't know what to do, what date it is, how to proceed.
-shit they are shooting at us
-shoot them
-the gun is stuck
-let's run away and hide

Javelins and bayraktars are a waste of money here. These guys just want to get drunk and sleep in a warm bed.

Makes sense to make Kherson part of Crimea, administratively, because of certain water issues.

That's absurd. The commodities being stolen don't belong to the state, be it Ukraine, DNR/LNR, or Russia. Does the "recognition" now imply forced nationalization of all private property?

BTW grain is being looted in Kherson region and other areas not part of DNR/LNR.

And of course the "liberators" try to steal money as well, because why not:


... except the video shows what looks like IBNS theft protection dye. But that's not stealing because DNR/LNR amirite.

Russia recognized DNR and LNR as independent states, rest of the world did not, so all of accusations of stealing stem from that. Following that logic you might as well claim that they used "stolen" port and stole ships in Crimea for transport. Since Crimea is in a similar state of world recognition

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-accuses-natos-turkey-over-stolen-grain-before-lavrov-visit/ar-AAY2niJ

Geopolitics was never fair, a lot of people thinking that someone else had their best interest will be disillusioned, people will be told how they should feel about things once men in power reach agreements behind closed doors. Always has, always will be

They control southern areas where a large part of Ukrainian grain production is. And there are many reports of Russians loading and transporting grain to Crimea, if you bothered to look outside of your bitchute safe space.


Nonsense, global markets LOL, you just post random words now. The ship goes from Mariupol to "Russia proper". They're taking something that doesn't belong to them AKA stealing.

Russia doesn't even control all of what is soon to be broken away as 'formerly part of Ukraine' so if they have an abundance of 'Ukrainian' grain, it is because someone in Kiev(-ish) Ukraine sold it to them from the central part of the pre-2022 country.  Since there is a general global hunger for rubles, that would make sense.


Maxar is CIA and capable of taking satellite photos of places where they don't even have satellites flying.  We saw that in the Bucha and Mariupol 'mass graves' hoaxes.

As for shipping grain or anything else, Ukraine, in a stroke of genius, mined their only remaining port then lost their ability to de-mine it.  The Russians are the only ones who could do it, and probably will get around to it someday...in exchange for payment in rubles, gold, or if we're lucky, BTC.  Of course if they do go ahead and take Odessa they'll have the area de-mined within a few days and Ukrainian grain can flow semi-freely (once the duties and transport safety fees and other forms of extortion are paid.)


Yup.  That's how it works now.  The Donbas, Russia proper, and other countries in Central Asia produce a variety of things including steel.  Passing through the port of Mariupol as part of their journey to global markets does not necessarily imply that they are 'looted' (unless you are propagandized retard.)

So you gave up pretending that you have something to say on topic and will just spam random shit here?

Meanwhile in Ukraine - looting on an industrial scale, thousands of tons of grain and steel being transported out of the occupied territories:

Drunk Russian soldiers video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P4KrdJooxk

The Javelins didn't help, the Bayraktars didn't help, the M777s didn't help, but multiple launch rocket systems will definitely help. A good plan, as reliable as a Swiss watch.

2014 worked to get a LOT of people in Ukraine, and probably even a fair number of people in the Western areas of the country, to hope for a Russian 'win' because, among other reasons, the resulting society will be better for them and their families.  This translates into it being relatively easier for groups of conscripts (or even professional military) to surrender, but more importantly, to give away intelligence information for the Russians to use in targeting and what-not.

The (internationally recognized) 'leadership' of Ukraine wants an 'implosion' of Ukraine so that they and their international friends/sponsors can sweep up the pieces and sift out the ones which are of value.  (Same in the U.S., BTW.)  You could say these are the 'Jewkrainians', but that would be simplistic and imprecise shorthand.  If the concept is useful at all, it should be used with care so as to not fall into a variety of traps. Foremost of which would be unethical treatment of souls who are not culpable.

What the 'neocon' installed power structures leveraged would be the 'force multiplication factor' of employing brutality and terrorism.  That's why the alliance with 'Nazism'.  At least as the label which gets traction in the 2000's mindset due to half a century of careful narrative shaping.  'Nazi' has been basically reduced down to the sub-set of 'brownshirt goons' in the minds of most people, and entities like 'Right Sector' and 'Azov Battalions' do match that pretty well.

There are very few potential powers who do not benefit by what can effectively be described as 'destruction' of the existing Ukraine, or at least pre-2014 Ukraine.  IOW, Ukrainians have few or no friends, and 'NATO' is actually one of the least friendly and a pretty poor basket into which to place one's eggs.

It's a long way from a sure thing that 'alignment' with the 'Russian block' would result in a decent long-term outlook, but that's certainly the bet I would make if I were a run-of-the-mill Slavic Ukrainian given the alternatives.  

It worked in 2014

The HIMARS are on the way. Don't worry, brothers. The first four are already in Europe, and they are meant for training purposes. Later, when our soldiers will learn to operate HIMARS, we'll be receiving dozens of them until the invaders will run off of our land. There's no two ways about it. It's important for the whole world to see that an attempt to change the government of another sovereign country by force fails.

Yes, it's all normal. When you start running out of youngsters you can try to recruit veterans who fought in The Afghan War. They should be in their 50s and 60s now and Russia seems to be in need. If they die the state will have less pensions to pay out so it's all good.


Some battlefield hide and seek.
Look at them trying to be smart and hide behind some trees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuE9H9KJ1VU

Branko, at this point you should have figured out that I am against the war. You seem to be justifying it and interested in continuing it.

BTW, you should start thinking who are the fascists on this case. You may be missing your real enemy.


What I am seeing in Popasna area is precisely the opposite. However, Kamy does not confer any particular advantage. Free to believe whatever you want though, I have to congratulate you for managing your expectations so greatly from "Kyiv will fall in a week" to "hey, hurray! We took this village... no not that one, the other one with two streets and twenty houses, see there in that corner"


So, are you volunteering then? You seem to be able to slam a keyboard, you must be able to use a T-62.

I am not surprised by the law, it simply makes the situation clear for everyone to see: Less and less people in the RF are willing to die for Adolf Putin. I cannot blame them.

RE training of Ukrainians soldiers and their accuracy... well, just do not try to cross a river again near them: