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This word - even more so than

That's the kind of tracker we have.

And Donetsk continues to be shelled.
https://t.me/kulemzin_donetsk/5683
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Anglosaxons

This word - even more so than "8 years" etc - is the badge of a devoted consumer of Kremlin propaganda.

It's hard to even find an analogy to explain its absurdity... probably like saying that the Golden Horde is now invading Ukraine.
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Wrong facts, wrong analysis, wrong conclusions - you are creating a personal brand on biasing informaiton.

The RF had better infrastructure, was more industrialised and was able to exert much more diplomatic and military influence than Ukraine. "elect power" is elect a government. It is much better than "take power", like Adolf Putin because if it does not work, you can vote to change it without killing anyone. Ukraine has a future beyond being a oil exporter (of oil that many would rather not buy).

In practice, Moscow rules for the Russians, precisely for the Russian Kleptocrats. Adolf Putin has no interest in developing Ukraine - for him this is just a buffer land from which to steal agricultural goods and use it to keep some burnable land between Moscow and Germany. There is not a case for Ukraine as a country wanting to be under the direction of the current RF government.

Edited to add: Ukraine is also in the path of the oil exports. How inconvenient.




Wrong...strange as it may seem, Putin is fighting for Germany too, to let them free from real scum, Anglosaxons
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If anything I would say that the Russians bent over backward to NOT 'take Kiev' and to keep 'their president' among the living.  Zelenski is the worst thing which every happened to Ukraine (or at least the worst thing for a long time) and consequently is a giant boon for the outcome of the special military operation that the Russians and the separatists are undertaking.  And he's a gift which keeps on giving!

You do not quite understand the essence of the normal structure of the state and the role of the people, or you live in Russia Smiley
In Ukraine, power is not a sacred value, as, for example, in Russia, where even a crazy under-furrer can rule the country and everyone will worship him. In Ukraine, power is elected by the people, and if necessary, the people are removed, and even ahead of schedule Smiley An example of this is 2014 and the cowardly thief Yanukovych. Having all the power and strength, he was still forced to cowardly flee to Russia.
I am not a supporter of Zelensky, and I am sure that he will have to answer for many of the "unpleasant stories" that have occurred during his term since 2019.


Since, despite having the best resources and starting position out of all former soviet republics, Ukraine was still far worse economically than Russia,
only conclusion could be that people are generally stupid and didn't "elect power" properly

Wrong facts, wrong analysis, wrong conclusions - you are creating a personal brand on biasing informaiton.

The RF had better infrastructure, was more industrialised and was able to exert much more diplomatic and military influence than Ukraine. "elect power" is elect a government. It is much better than "take power", like Adolf Putin because if it does not work, you can vote to change it without killing anyone. Ukraine has a future beyond being a oil exporter (of oil that many would rather not buy).

In practice, Moscow rules for the Russians, precisely for the Russian Kleptocrats. Adolf Putin has no interest in developing Ukraine - for him this is just a buffer land from which to steal agricultural goods and use it to keep some burnable land between Moscow and Germany. There is not a case for Ukraine as a country wanting to be under the direction of the current RF government.

Edited to add: Ukraine is also in the path of the oil exports. How inconvenient.

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Yes, you can draw any numbers, for rashism, propaganda and lies are a systemic process, so to speak, the basis of the Russian world Smiley
Tell us more about palm oil, which Russia consumes the most (maybe asphalt is covered, right? Smiley ). About the fall of industrial production, and agriculture as well.

I'm sorry if numbers present problems for you, but people use numbers to prove or disprove opinions.

For example, these numbers tell me that your opinion is mostly BS:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1064022/russia-gva-from-agriculture/
legendary
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By the way, an interesting observation: everyone noticed that after problems arose in Russia, after its terrorist attack on Ukraine, ALL THE WORLD TERRORISM ORGANIZATIONS SILLED !!! A similar situation was when the USSR again "rose from its knees" and begged all over the world for at least some food, when there was no money for their fosterlings like ISIS, Hamas and the like. Coincidence ? Smiley

We can only conclude that you're sheep whose mind is controlled by MSM

oh, Russianism got out of the body  Grin

I have long known that rashists are afraid of the truth, like hell incense! You are the best proof of this, for which many thanks to you Smiley


As I said, MSM brainwashed

Yes, you can draw any numbers, for rashism, propaganda and lies are a systemic process, so to speak, the basis of the Russian world Smiley
Tell us more about palm oil, which Russia consumes the most (maybe asphalt is covered, right? Smiley ). About the fall of industrial production, and agriculture as well. I wonder who eats so much meat if people don't have money for simple food? You can tell me any fairy tales, but I know the truth first-hand - I myself was born on today's territory of Russia, but thank God that they did not stay there! My relatives live there, in a large city, one of the largest regions, they consider themselves to be middle class, and tell how their life has changed since 2014, not for the better. And these are not central or other depressive regions of Russia. My aunt lives in Krasnodar - she is also "delighted" with the changes over the past 8 years. And for some reason, when she came to visit us until 2022, she did not climb out of grocery stores, because in the Krasnodar Territory, the breadbasket of Russia (by the way, also a stolen region of Ukraine) "there are no normal and such tasty products!"

So tell stories at the training camp of "Putin's grandmothers", they love such nonsense Smiley
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Well, who has a lower standard of living?! Smiley


As I said, MSM brainwashed

legendary
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If anything I would say that the Russians bent over backward to NOT 'take Kiev' and to keep 'their president' among the living.  Zelenski is the worst thing which every happened to Ukraine (or at least the worst thing for a long time) and consequently is a giant boon for the outcome of the special military operation that the Russians and the separatists are undertaking.  And he's a gift which keeps on giving!

You do not quite understand the essence of the normal structure of the state and the role of the people, or you live in Russia Smiley
In Ukraine, power is not a sacred value, as, for example, in Russia, where even a crazy under-furrer can rule the country and everyone will worship him. In Ukraine, power is elected by the people, and if necessary, the people are removed, and even ahead of schedule Smiley An example of this is 2014 and the cowardly thief Yanukovych. Having all the power and strength, he was still forced to cowardly flee to Russia.
I am not a supporter of Zelensky, and I am sure that he will have to answer for many of the "unpleasant stories" that have occurred during his term since 2019.


Since, despite having the best resources and starting position out of all former soviet republics, Ukraine was still far worse economically than Russia,
only conclusion could be that people are generally stupid and didn't "elect power" properly

The first statement is FAKE. Russia had the best position after the collapse of the USSR. Which supposedly assumed all the debts, took ALL the assets of the USSR on the territory of the RSFSR, outside the former USSR, as well as all budgets. Tell me - if Russia has called itself the successor of the USSR for debts - why does it not pay pensions to ALL former residents of the USSR? Smiley After all, all pension contributions went to the centralized budget, which was controlled by Moscow (RSFSR). That is, in fact, she stole their money and assets from all the republics!

And the second statement is also FAKE - that the standard of living in Ukraine is lower than in Russia. Perhaps you are comparing exclusively with Moscow City? But the majority of Russian degenerates who came to destroy Ukraine are shocked by the high standard of living in Ukraine, even in the villages. It is the Russians who steal and take "to rich Russia" toilet bowls (a rare thing in Russia Smiley), washing machines, irons, electric kettles without coasters, dishes, children's toys and even used underwear for their wives! Well, who has a lower standard of living?! Smiley

PS But you remember this time, soon it will seem very prosperous to you Smiley
sr. member
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By the way, an interesting observation: everyone noticed that after problems arose in Russia, after its terrorist attack on Ukraine, ALL THE WORLD TERRORISM ORGANIZATIONS SILLED !!! A similar situation was when the USSR again "rose from its knees" and begged all over the world for at least some food, when there was no money for their fosterlings like ISIS, Hamas and the like. Coincidence ? Smiley

We can only conclude that you're sheep whose mind is controlled by MSM
legendary
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By the way, an interesting observation: everyone noticed that after problems arose in Russia, after its terrorist attack on Ukraine, ALL THE WORLD TERRORISM ORGANIZATIONS SILLED !!! A similar situation was when the USSR again "rose from its knees" and begged all over the world for at least some food, when there was no money for their fosterlings like ISIS, Hamas and the like. Coincidence ? Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 2632
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If anything I would say that the Russians bent over backward to NOT 'take Kiev' and to keep 'their president' among the living.  Zelenski is the worst thing which every happened to Ukraine (or at least the worst thing for a long time) and consequently is a giant boon for the outcome of the special military operation that the Russians and the separatists are undertaking.  And he's a gift which keeps on giving!

You do not quite understand the essence of the normal structure of the state and the role of the people, or you live in Russia Smiley
In Ukraine, power is not a sacred value, as, for example, in Russia, where even a crazy under-furrer can rule the country and everyone will worship him. In Ukraine, power is elected by the people, and if necessary, the people are removed, and even ahead of schedule Smiley An example of this is 2014 and the cowardly thief Yanukovych. Having all the power and strength, he was still forced to cowardly flee to Russia.
I am not a supporter of Zelensky, and I am sure that he will have to answer for many of the "unpleasant stories" that have occurred during his term since 2019.


Since, despite having the best resources and starting position out of all former soviet republics, Ukraine was still far worse economically than Russia,
only conclusion could be that people are generally stupid and didn't "elect power" properly
legendary
Activity: 3752
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If anything I would say that the Russians bent over backward to NOT 'take Kiev' and to keep 'their president' among the living.  Zelenski is the worst thing which every happened to Ukraine (or at least the worst thing for a long time) and consequently is a giant boon for the outcome of the special military operation that the Russians and the separatists are undertaking.  And he's a gift which keeps on giving!

You do not quite understand the essence of the normal structure of the state and the role of the people, or you live in Russia Smiley
In Ukraine, power is not a sacred value, as, for example, in Russia, where even a crazy under-furrer can rule the country and everyone will worship him. In Ukraine, power is elected by the people, and if necessary, the people are removed, and even ahead of schedule Smiley An example of this is 2014 and the cowardly thief Yanukovych. Having all the power and strength, he was still forced to cowardly flee to Russia.
I am not a supporter of Zelensky, and I am sure that he will have to answer for many of the "unpleasant stories" that have occurred during his term since 2019.
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If anything I would say that the Russians bent over backward to NOT 'take Kiev' and to keep 'their president' among the living.  Zelenski is the worst thing which every happened to Ukraine (or at least the worst thing for a long time) and consequently is a giant boon for the outcome of the special military operation that the Russians and the separatists are undertaking.  And he's a gift which keeps on giving!

Yeah, you like to take the opposite stance of reality.  It's fun to pretend you're more intelligent than everyone else. No different than your 'global cooling' argument.
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It seems some people in Poland had it enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FIlSda5uxg



Nice video. But let's get acquainted with the organizers of thsi rally, they are very interesting guys.

1. Piotr Rybak
Piotr Rybak is an entrepreneur who is now associated mainly with anti-Semitism and nationalism. He was convicted by a court of burning an effigy of an American Jew with George Soros' Hungarian ancestry. According to the nationalist, the multi-billionaire wants to destroy nation-states and promote liberalism. Although Soros has no ambition to ruin Polish patriotism, he is considered by the extreme right-wing circles as the enemy number one.

2. Wojciech Józef Ryszard Olszański
3. Marcin Osadowski

Olshansky advocates an alliance with Russia and supports the rule of Alexander Lukashenko.[3][7] Wojciech also claims that the SARS-CoV-2 virus does not exist or is controlled by the US military.[3] He claims that the United States is Poland's worst enemy.[16] His views are anticlerical.[17] In his programs, he very often offends the LGBT community.[18] At the end of 2020, on one of the recordings, he stated that Claudia Jahira (Polish), a member of the Civic Coalition, was a specimen for rape.[11] In the same piece, Olshansky and Osadovsky insulted activist Marta Lempart. After the statements about Yahira, the Center for Monitoring Racist and Xenophobic Behavior demanded that YouTube remove the channels of Olshansky and Osadovsky and reported this to the prosecutor's office.[19]

Marcin Osadowski. I'll be damned if this guy doesn't have the biggest CP collection in Poland.

So how do you like this company?


He said some people. Technically, he cannot be wrong.  Tongue

Now seriously, the only ones interested in talking about Poland is the psychos at the Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland Tales in Moscow. Poland is current running all short of risks to create a continuous flow of help to Ukraine, both social, economical from the West and from their own.

Compared to size and resources, Poland is the country that has supplied more weapons and supported the major civil immigration support to and from Ukraine. They even wanted to send MIGs to Ukraine and it was the US that said no.

Millions of immigrants accepted and supported.

https://www.intereconomics.eu/contents/year/2022/number/3/article/the-war-in-ukraine-and-migration-to-poland-outlook-and-challenges.html

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The war initiated by Russia against Ukraine in February 2022 has resulted in the largest refugee migration in Europe since World War II, estimated by UNHCR (2022) at 6.3 million persons. In the first two months, almost 3.5 million war refugees crossed the Polish border, of which over 95% were Ukrainian citizens. Figure 1 presents the scale of the border traffic between Ukraine and Poland and points to a remarkable increase in the scale of mobility in the first two to three weeks after the outbreak of the war

https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/poland-is-third-largest-donor-of-military-aid-to-ukraine-states-bbc-report-31474

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62002218



It is evident that Poland is supporting Ukraine, and, if they were given the go ahead by NATO, their soldiers would be at the eastern front helping to fertilise the soil with the corpses untrained and forced young Russians.


 

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 Ukrainians just want to kill without warning instead

Uhhh.... You know Ukraine didn't invite the Russians in to visit right?


The people of the separatist areas where the Russians put their focus actually did.  It's actually truly heart-warming to see them greeted by old ladies and such people who've been stuck in bomb shelters for 8 years as the ZioNazi's shell them in an ethnic cleansing campaign.  Just because they were born in families who spoke the wrong language.




If you ever see this 8-years shit, you should know that it's a quite mediocre russian bot right in front of you.
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It seems some people in Poland had it enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FIlSda5uxg



Nice video. But let's get acquainted with the organizers of thsi rally, they are very interesting guys.

1. Piotr Rybak
Piotr Rybak is an entrepreneur who is now associated mainly with anti-Semitism and nationalism. He was convicted by a court of burning an effigy of an American Jew with George Soros' Hungarian ancestry. According to the nationalist, the multi-billionaire wants to destroy nation-states and promote liberalism. Although Soros has no ambition to ruin Polish patriotism, he is considered by the extreme right-wing circles as the enemy number one.

2. Wojciech Józef Ryszard Olszański
3. Marcin Osadowski

Olshansky advocates an alliance with Russia and supports the rule of Alexander Lukashenko.[3][7] Wojciech also claims that the SARS-CoV-2 virus does not exist or is controlled by the US military.[3] He claims that the United States is Poland's worst enemy.[16] His views are anticlerical.[17] In his programs, he very often offends the LGBT community.[18] At the end of 2020, on one of the recordings, he stated that Claudia Jahira (Polish), a member of the Civic Coalition, was a specimen for rape.[11] In the same piece, Olshansky and Osadovsky insulted activist Marta Lempart. After the statements about Yahira, the Center for Monitoring Racist and Xenophobic Behavior demanded that YouTube remove the channels of Olshansky and Osadovsky and reported this to the prosecutor's office.[19]

Marcin Osadowski. I'll be damned if this guy doesn't have the biggest CP collection in Poland.

So how do you like this company?
legendary
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stuck in bomb shelters for 8 years

Putin killed more Donbas residents in the first couple of months of this war than have been killed in the prior 8 years of "shelling" (many civilians deaths were actually caused by Russian landmines). No one was stuck in any bomb shelters, in fact some Donetsk residents are now finding that their bomb shelters are inaccessible but the mayor is calling them "Ukrainian agents" for daring to complain. Wonderful life in the liberated Donetsk Ponzi Republic.

Yeah, OK.  Whatever you say there, chief.

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stuck in bomb shelters for 8 years

Putin killed more Donbas residents in the first couple of months of this war than have been killed in the prior 8 years of "shelling" (many civilians deaths were actually caused by Russian landmines). No one was stuck in any bomb shelters, in fact some Donetsk residents are now finding that their bomb shelters are inaccessible but the mayor is calling them "Ukrainian agents" for daring to complain. Wonderful life in the liberated Donetsk Ponzi Republic.
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It seems some people in Poland had it enough


They are against the unification of Poland and Ukraine.
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Uhhh.... You know Ukraine didn't invite the Russians in to visit right?

The people of the separatist areas where the Russians put their focus actually did.

Again wrong. Only half of them in 2014 and zero now.
Half of Donbass citizens had run to Ukraine after russian-supported criminals took the power into their hands.

 It's actually truly heart-warming to see them greeted by old ladies and such people who've been stuck in bomb shelters for 8 years as the ZioNazi's shell them in an ethnic cleansing campaign.  

ZioNazi, lol. Antisemitic talk. But i'm not surprised

Just because they were born in families who spoke the wrong language.

And why Ukraine didn't shell russophone cities like Odessa or Mykolaiv? But from your words it shell Donbass people. What a difference?

It's hard to believe that anyone could be ignorant enough to believe that the phase-I faint up around the Kiev area was an attempt to militarily 'take Kiev'

Isn't it? So, what your thoughts about the reason of this actions? I should remind you, that such "phase-1" cost russian army too much. I see a lot of dead russian soldiers (around 37 bodies near Ivankov) and burnt vechicle. So russian government lost a lot of people, tanks and everything else just for fun?
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