Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 267. (Read 73622 times)

German moderator trying to side with Russian trolls from Germany: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60468764
Why it's always Germany?

Are You blind?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXkqW-k-rgE
Check the comment:
Well VERY DILIGENTLY this video does everything possible to NOT SHOW what is right in front of this ruined factory. There seems to be a reason for this? They also do not show what is inside the undestroyed parts of this workshop at the plant, which allegedly has no military products. Here we wanted to show road cars in the workshop, but once again, all of a sudden, the batteries on not only the video camera, but also on the phones were completely unexpectedly dead. All of them at once. Or does the secrecy at this kind of "civilian" facility not allow for video recording?


I understand that there would have to be a hole where the magazine was if something had gone in there directly.
There is a video of standing bottles on the racks from this location.

There were two separate missile hits in the area, one to the shopping mall, another to an industrial building about 500 meters away (next to a park). There is no indication the the industrial building had a military purpose but even if it did, there was no ammunition detonation or widespread fire. The mall did not catch fire from the industrial building because there are many undamaged structures between the two locations. Basically everything Russian media said about this attack is false.

Map of the two locations:



Satellite pics before and after, courtesy of Sky News / Planet Labs:



https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-news-live-zelenskyy-kremenchuk-putin-12541713?postid=4088685#liveblog-body

I have the impression that you have never encountered any real information about the purpose of the Russian military operations.
I recommend that you read the originals, not the crap from the "Western media".


Ho ho, the money for the posts is about ЦИПcO
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/72-%D0%B9_%D1%86%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80_%D1%96%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%86%D1%96%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D0%BF%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%96%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D1%96%D0%B9_(%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%97%D0%BD%D0%B0)

They added it as an example of made up garbage being spread by Kremlin trolls. And you spread it here. Well done. Claim your 15 rubles on your way out.

The woman moved from there, so what she says is not true at all.
I don't care much about the comments of the Ukrobots, it's good that they added this video. Asses are on fire.

I've read an interesting advice from a communication advisor, he was referring to Trump. He said: whenever you face an irrationally arguing person, never try to counter that person rationally. Be irrational yourself and take it ad absurdum such that the other party thinks you must be completely braindead. I guess I need to give you the impression that my brain is dead, that's the level where you start thinking rationally.

Again the "asking questions" trollfuckery. No facts, just a quote from a TikTok video of someone who (according to your own link) doesn't even live in the city. Funny how you didn't quote that part:


Except the Russian military is destroying those "republics" and the predominantly Russian-speaking population thereof. If they want to stop the shelling they just need to retreat from Ukraine.

Keep in mind that this is a question from a resident of Kremenchug to the head of the city.

The goal of all Russian military actions is to stop shelling the DNR and LNR plus the demilitarization of Ukraine.
Military warehouses are a legitimate goal.

Then, the first video says that the rocket hit the store. However, in the video from the store the bottles are on the racks, how is this possible with a direct impact and detonation of the ammunition?

Do you realize that you are skipping step after step in your logic? They can store whatever the fuck they want in the middle of a city within their own territory. That is not the point. The point is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Xc_e3mwp0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHCC3KKE_fI

I am shaking my head dude. Who cares what they store there? What the fuck is the Russian missile doing there? That is the question!!! Not "why is there an ammunition warehouse?". LOL, man, I am wasting my time and I guess that is what you are eventually looking for: people listening to your trash and answering you.

Ok then, enlighten me and please be precise and concise: what... is... the... Russian... missile... doing... in... that... spot? Precise and concise. Looking forward to your answer, but with some necessary reasoning please.

lol
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https://t.me/h_kremenchug/43566

"And here the most interesting question to Maletsky, you tell me, when you were arranging a warehouse of weapons and ammunition behind the shopping center on Kredmash, did you warn Kremenchuk residents that they now have a strategic facility in the city center?

And why was it (Amstor) open at all, where it is, a military facility, there were weapons, ammunition detonators, which were recently delivered from the EU and America.
Why did we get a strategic facility for the missiles of the russian federation from the old factory, which was used to store the leftover skin in the warehouses.
Don't you think you are too much too.
That is, you.
I hid deliberately planned in advance ammunition in a place where a large number of people come there is a pharmacy pizzeria plus a shopping mall supermarket a very large store plus a phone store plus there is a bank branch and they sell jewelry there it was like that five years ago when I went away plus at the same place there is a mini private train station.

The marshrutka and buses and also cab drivers stop and there are always a bunch of cars in the parking lot because all the people park there who work nearby so what the fuck during the war you hid, any supplies where there could be a big crowd. You couldn't take these weapons out of Kremenchug to the region, why did you put an ammunition warehouse in the center of the city?"

Classic read...

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He's an American that basically just believes the opposite of whatever the general consensus in America is.  In his mind, everyone else is wrong, and he's one of the few that knows the truth.  Global cooling is the greatest threat to planet, Putin is honest, Doctors/Scientists are wrong pretty much always (and if you want to know why, he has a massive word salad for you), Ukraine is evil, the fact something is reported by the media is evidence that it's fake news, etc...

This whole idea of "using civilians as a shield" when you defend your home country/town is beyond stupid to me on all fronts. What are you even going to do when the enemy tries to attack you and you defend your city? Like, what action is there that in theory could not be labeled as "using civilians as a shield"? How stupid is that even? Of course I hide within or behind buildings in a city, and of course there are civilians. But I as a defender don't make the civilians a shield.

If I run through my city with a table in front of my head and somebody asks me what that is, I would answer: a table. But when some faggot starts shooting arrows at me, that table might suddenly turn into a shield. We have an AGGRESSOR here and that aggressor is Russia and nobody else. The Ukrainians don't turn their civilians into shields. The Russians turn the civilians into shields. The whole logic behind accusing Ukrainian military of using civilians as a shield is totally beyond me.

Yes, fucking Ukrainian military doesn't stand in line on the streets waiting for their headshot. Instead the immoral Ukrainian military uses "civilians as a shield" in the city and country they seek to defend against genocide.

I usually refrain from getting too political in this forum, but this drives me nuts. Just get out of Ukraine and we can end the discussion about what is a "shield" and what is a "target".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60772331

Attacked: theatre sheltering 1,000+ civilians. A maternity hospital. A church.

Even IF Ukrainian military "used civilians as a shield", how the fuck can you still fire a missile straight into a maternity hospital? Like, what the heck?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/05/world/europe/bucha-shooting-video.html. ("Russian soldiers opened fire on a cyclist in Bucha, new video shows.")

I am all for looking at conflicts from a historical perspective in oder to understand the reasoning behind certain actions, but there are actions that regardless of their historical context can't ever be justified. Perhaps Hitler got bullied by a Jewish boy in elementary school, well, sure, then kill a whole nation later on as revenge. Makes perfect sense to some here on this forum as it seems.

What Russia is doing in Ukraine can't ever be justified, never ever...


The Russian population at large isn't too blame, considering that Putin puts even children into prison (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russian-children-detained-in-kremlins-crackdown-on-dissent-cfqj8qxv3)

Edit: The only person using civilians as a shield here is Putin by causing a famine, blaming the West for it, and watch Africans and others slowly die their death until the very last breath, until the body is too weak to breath once more because of malnutrition. That to me is using "civilians as a shield". Civilians that really, really never ever can't be blamed for anything.

ROFL.

OMG, are you really that ignorant?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Rus%27,_Russia_and_Ruthenia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus%27_people

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Ruotsi

Rus in Kievan Rus has nothing to do with Russia.

Rurik was Varangian. The only relation the Grand Duchy of Moscow (Russia) has to Kievan Rus is that it was conquered during the Rurik dynasty.

Russki/Muscovites should just go back to their ancestral lands of the Grand Duchy of Moscow and leave other nationalities alone.

It is simply insane to claim that Kievan Rus was or is Russia. Simply insane.

Can you tell me one answear for a question?

Is your script from Moscow in English language or do you need to translate it from Russian first?
If it's translated before, is it written in good English or are spelling and grammar mistakes included?

'Rus', 'Russia'.  Get it?


Those soy-faggers?  LOL!  They are most of the way to extinction as it is.  *

Russia is not on this map.

Descendents of Varangians (Scandinavians) should raid the lands of Kievan Rus, and recover their ancestral lands. LOL.

Russia is slowly taking over in Ukraine. Why slowly? They don't what to hurt any more weak minded Ukrainians, who have ignorantly fallen prey to NAZI rhetoric. Think of all those US armaments Russia is going to get from the Ukrainian troops they capture.


Massive numbers of Ukrainian forces now surrounded by Russian troops in Donbas region as U.S. continues pouring in weapons

Russia used to be so small back then:

This schools isn't used by children, so i don't see any problems with that.
And yeah, about "using civilians as a shield"



Photo taken by civilian from the building. What we have here? Ah, your friends doing the same. ASVABADITELI
And I have a lot of such materials. It's weird to blame ukrainian defenders for something when you in fact doing the same



Not because of humanism or something. Just low capabilities and small amount of cruise missiles (at least "small amount" for such strategy)


https://t.me/pechalbeda200
Here is a good Telegram channel of russian casualities with proofs. For any dead ruskie they collect announce from local (russian) public (screenshot + link)
This public doesn't count LDPR casualities, only russian povs.

4086 by now (channel started at March 12, so a lot of casulaties are on the way to count)