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to paxmaoOn top of it, on the ridiculous attempt to make it look like if US were giving any credibility to the "nazi-terrorist" arguments
Did you deliberately ignore the part that Azov was
recognized by the US Congress as a neo-Nazi group and Congress banned the supply of weapons to them?
The Nazi argument is irrelevant to the war, Putin could not care less about the ideology of the people that he kills and this discussion is only for the internal propaganda market and to cover up an unjustified war of invasion and aggression.
Too many events preceded this invasion to call it as you do it. Briefly, in 2014, an unconstitutional coup took place in Ukraine, forcibly removing President Yanukovych. Then one million people in Kyiv decided for a country of 45 million how it should live. This did not suit many Ukrainians and they decided to protest. Protest movements were strongest in eastern Ukraine, where there is a large Russian-speaking population. In some places, these riots were brutally suppressed, especially in Mariupol and Odessa, where 42 people were burned alive.
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Nobody outside Russia (probably not that many inside) thinks that this war has anything to do with Nazism (Putin himself is behaving much more like the Nazi Reich and his army like the Wehrmacht).
There are reviews of many journalists and bloggers from different countries that this war is connected with Nazism.
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If Putin decides to treat POW as terrorist, the young and unprepared Russian soldiers sent to the front should not expect anything else.
You are obviously confusing something. These are Ukrainian soldiers
torturing Russian prisoners of war. The exchange fund in Ukraine now has from 150 to 400 captured Russians, while there are already more than 6,000 captured Ukrainian soldiers.
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Under Putin, Russia is acting as a terrorist state and it is to be expected that is granted the same "courtesy" as he has with the adversary.
Bold statement, what is it based on?
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SourceDo not die for Putin.
Do you sincerely think that such beliefs can influence someone in Russia? Do you think how many Russians read you here, especially those who are now fighting at the front?
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Senate approved 40 Billion USD in help to Ukraine. That is the US view on the matter, putting the dollar where their mouth and the public opinion are.
This is not public opinion at all, the issues of Ukraine and, in general, armed conflicts between nations are now worrying people in the world (including the United States)
much less than the problem of inflation.
I just noticed on the strategic map that if either Kherson or Melitopol fall Crimea may simply not have any water. The supply would be cut. Some maps even give a larger advantage to Ukraine in the South, calling contested some of the areas that Russia is taking for granted.
You may not know, but the Ukrainian government
cut Crimea off from fresh water in 2014. The Russian government managed to solve this problem then.
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Crimea is a contested territory that belongs to Ukraine and is under Russian occupation.
If Ukraine considers Crimea its territory, then why did the Ukrainian authorities in 2014 cut off the access of fresh water to the peninsula? Isn't this a crime against its own population? Can you explain further how the issue with
Crimea is fundamentally different from
Kosovo?
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Even Putin understands the consequences of using any form of nuclear weapon.
The fact that he "declares" a territory "Russia" means that he would be drawn inevitably into a choice: Use nukes to defend it (with a corresponding response) or loose face. A third options is to be killed by his own circle.
You probably didn’t notice that even the American press already admits that Ukraine will most likely be forced to come to terms with the loss of territories, including Crimea. If you harbor unrealizable illusions about the return of the lands, then this will only lead to even greater sacrifices.
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Interesting, you dare to question representativeness in Ukraine - that basically got rid of an imposed Putinian leader - when you have been living under the rule of Putin for two decades. I think you should actually ask Ukrainians how to get rid of despots.
RE gas imports, there is no doubt that Europe uses plenty of NG from Russia and that is very difficult to replace it in the short term. Have no doubt that it can and will be replaced progressively during the next few years. The dependency created since Chancellor Schroeder is now on its way to disappear and Russia will become a country that no investor will touch with a ten foot pole.
On the Nazi argument, again:
- There are nazi groups all over the world including Russia, US, UK, Germany... I do not see Putin complaining about it. Because it is not the real reason and has never been. Putin does not care about Nazis. He is using it because it provides and ideological coverage for his actions. This war, as all the war in history, related to power, control and politics. Again, the stance of US is very clear on this conflict. I dare to say they are the only winners on this war.
- US may consider that Ukraine may need to come to terms. What those terms are will, as in all wars, be dictated by what is the situation on the ground. Crimea was cut-off from water after 2014 and it can happen again. Russia's solution was to send water by sea an it failed spectacularly.
- You can throw whatever prisoner numbers - the fact is that you do not know the exact figures - but that is irrelevant to the point: if you spread news of mistreatment of Ukrainian prisoners or them being judged for their ideology you are asking for retaliation. And, yes, Nazism is just a ideology not a crime in itself, as Communism or Capitalism.
I am fully aware there there has been conflict in some of the regions where there is a significant presence of people of Russian background. This has been encouraged by the Kremlin because, again, gives an edge of power and political grip on the region. If not, it would probably have been solved or at least not become an open war. Russia had de facto armed 2 army corps and that can only end in war.
On the topic of who reads this thread, I am sure soldiers in the front are most likely cut-off from communications - although there may always be some filtrations. However, anyone in Russia with a VPN - and that tends to be the young - has access to this forum.
I am talking to them, to their families, friends or people they trust. They have the right to know that they are fighting for nothing, that the war is unnecessary and that the military leadership is so pressed by the Kremlin that the soldiers are being sent to die without hesitation on suicidal attacks, unprepared and lacking any intelligence over the enemy. Also, they will be facing modern artillery and weapons from the west used by an army that is defending its homeland, not just trying to fulfil the pathetic ambitions of a gangster that has little left to live.
Do not trust the official media, they will just give you a dose of Vodka with anaesthesia. Look our, check other sources and above all do not let them lie you into dying for Putin. Live, f*ck, grow and die old.