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Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 266. (Read 73622 times)

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Really?

And what about the genocide, how many were killed?
How many of these buildings were in use by the military at the time of the strike?
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(missile hits an apartment building in Mikolaiv)

And what do the anti-battery radars say? Where was the gunfire coming from?
As far as I know, missiles don't fly alone, there are shots by the dozen.
There was a recent video of a rocket returning to the launch site.
And surely the locations of the malls are known, why hit only one if genocide is the goal?

Genocide is a goal you can work towards in different ways right? It is "the way to go", the genocide, the result of a process. Hitler just forced people onto the streets, shot them in the head and threw them into mass graves (digged out by those who then got shot in the head). Even Putin knows that there are limits to the process that is supposed to lead to nothing else but genocide. If you fire one missile, you could still argue in front of the United Nations that it was an accident or what not. Or that it was the Ukrainians themselves. Or some other Russian troll shit from Kremlin.

Putin isn't stupid. He knows how to proceed in order to keep people like you brain-fucked. He must avoid at all costs that his troll army consisting of people like you doesn't have at least a tiny chance to twist the facts such that they fit into his narratives and somehow nurture the insane propaganda context spread on the state controlled media.

You see it works? You are so stupid that sometimes I think even Putin can't believe how easy it is to manipulate people. Just shoot one missile and the trolls will say "why only one missile if genocide?" Putin understands the slippery slope game. He is conducting a tightrope act in a certain way. Always push the boundaries a little further. If he decided to pull off a second Hitler, he'd probably get into military trouble. He makes a mini Hitler now that is snowballing step by step, hence making the decision harder for outside forces when to pull the trigger.

HAHA, omg, I am seriously shaking my head right now. I am wondering whether I should take a lesson with Putin on how to be smart and manipulate trolls or whether I should take one with trolls like you on how to be stupid and be manipulable. Both not very tempting and desirable, yet depressingly impressive in a very peculiar way. You are special, my friend. That's something, really!


@suchmoon: "only one". If you read a comment like that, do you have a comprehensible psychological explanation as to how someone could come up with that thought process? I am trying to, but I am puzzled, seriously. I feel like I am lacking a special kind of brain cells and synapses in order to reproduce the impulse and the following thought process to come to the conclusion that "only one" missile is "proof against genocide". My lord...
legendary
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Fucking anarchists have posted instructions on how to stage terrorist attacks.

That's what happens when your government lies to you and doesn't call things by their real names. You get confused and you think that the "not a war" won't come to Russia. It already has. If it helps, call it a special railroad operation.

Meanwhile Russian military continues targeting civilians:

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(missile hits an apartment building in Mikolaiv)

No, they are trying to break through Nazi Ukrainian's defense technology, aka "shields"...
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(missile hits an apartment building in Mikolaiv)

And what do the anti-battery radars say? Where was the gunfire coming from?
As far as I know, missiles don't fly alone, there are shots by the dozen.
There was a recent video of a rocket returning to the launch site.
And surely the locations of the malls are known, why hit only one if genocide is the goal?

Really?

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(missile hits an apartment building in Mikolaiv)

And what do the anti-battery radars say? Where was the gunfire coming from?
As far as I know, missiles don't fly alone, there are shots by the dozen.
There was a recent video of a rocket returning to the launch site.
And surely the locations of the malls are known, why hit only one if genocide is the goal?
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Fucking anarchists have posted instructions on how to stage terrorist attacks.

That's what happens when your government lies to you and doesn't call things by their real names. You get confused and you think that the "not a war" won't come to Russia. It already has. If it helps, call it a special railroad operation.

Meanwhile Russian military continues targeting civilians:

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(missile hits an apartment building in Mikolaiv)
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I don't know from where did you got that number 1000 killed.
anything that supports the war effort is a legitimate target

It shows how to derail trains, it's an instruction manual.
What is a legitimate target for anarchists is a mystery to me.
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Interesting news.

Fucking anarchists have posted instructions on how to stage terrorist attacks.
And you're reposting it.

You seem very confused about the concept of terrorism. The Russia Federation is at war with Ukraine. Railways, refineries, weapons factories and anything that supports the war effort is a legitimate target (as opposed for example to targeting a shopping centre, which is terrorism). What is the problem? It feels different when someone does it to you in your territory uh? Is war no longer fun and glorious for you?

I can tell the guy who did this had training. He made sure there was electrical contact between the rails so that the section circuit was closed and there was not indication at the control centre.
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Slava Ukraini!
How many killed did they count 1,000 or 18?
I don't know from where did you got that number 1000 killed. It was said that there was about 1000 people inside, but it's only estimate numbers. And 18 people killed is only initial number. Many were not found under wreckings, so, this number is likely to grow.
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store telegram channel made week before attack where they said that from that date they're not going to close store during air alerts.

How many killed did they count 1,000 or 18?
legendary
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Konashenkov pointed out that the store was closed.
I'm not sure that's worth wasting time debunking Konashnenkov lies, but ok. Yesterday I posted screenshot from store telegram channel made week before attack where they said that from that date they're not going to close store during air alerts. Offcourse, someone who made such stupid decision will have to take responsibility for it.
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I am all for looking at conflicts from a historical perspective in oder to understand the reasoning behind certain actions, but there are actions that regardless of their historical context can't ever be justified. Perhaps Hitler got bullied by a Jewish boy in elementary school, well, sure, then kill a whole nation later on as revenge. Makes perfect sense to some here on this forum as it seems.
At first, Hitler hated Jews because at that time they have taken German and Austrian art institutions' leadership and he thought that he was unfairly rejected. Then, Jews were well-represented in finance and business.

The Russian population at large isn't too blame, considering that Putin puts even children into prison (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russian-children-detained-in-kremlins-crackdown-on-dissent-cfqj8qxv3)
No, no! The government of Russia represents the Russian population and society. They should change the government, doesn't matter what they have to sacrifice, Russian population should do everything to get rid of Putin and end the war, otherwise, they are 100% into this.
If I try to squeeze your neck until you die, I believe you'll do everything to get rid of my hands and escape from me, even if I am a tall, muscular, and very strong boy. If you squeeze the neck of your brother and you can stop me but you won't stop me, then it means that you are into this and the final result is acceptable for you.

Edit: The only person using civilians as a shield here is Putin by causing a famine, blaming the West for it, and watch Africans and others slowly die their death until the very last breath, until the body is too weak to breath once more because of malnutrition. That to me is using "civilians as a shield". Civilians that really, really never ever can't be blamed for anything.
He waged the war! If he wouldn't start, then nothing would happen and he waged it for his crazy thoughts and ambitions. Average Russian citizens don't analyze that doesn't matter what happens, Putin, his people and his family won't even be affected in this war but the average citizens, they are paying and will pay a huge price.
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Interesting news.

Fucking anarchists have posted instructions on how to stage terrorist attacks.
And you're reposting it.
legendary
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Interesting news. There a lot of cases of heavy sabotage in Russia. Let me quote myself:

1. Пocкoвcкaя oблacть, 13 вaгoнoв c бoeпpипacaми дeнaцифициpoвaнo


https://t.me/worldprotest/21946

2. Дeнaцификaция жд пoлoтнa вeдyщeгo к в/ч 55443 BД Бapcoвo пoд Киpжaчoм


Чтo былo пpoдeлaнo:
- Oткpyчeны 34 гaйки (пo 17 c кaждoй cтopoны), yдepживaющиe peльc
- Oткpyчeны 4 гaйки, coeдиняющиe cтык
- Peльc в мecтe cтыкa пoднят, yлoжeн нa coeдинитeльнyю плacтинy (чтoбы нe вcтaл нa мecтo) и oтвeдeн в cтopoнy.
- Peльcы были зaмкнyты мeждy coбoй пpoвoдoм, нa cлyчaй, ecли пo peльcy пepeдaeтcя cигнaльный тoк, для дeтeктиpoвaния paзмыкaния (cпacибo coвeтy oт пoдпиcчикoв).

https://t.me/boakom/34

1. Pskov, 13 wagons with ammo

2. Railway to the rocket military unit.

New day, new broken railways:


Amur oblast , 14 wagons with different goods.
Link:  https://t.me/ostanovivagonyy/113

As i see, there a lot of such groups in Russia who are using old soviet tactic from WW2 called The Rail War.
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Konashenkov

He's a liar. Which part of this are you finding so hard to understand?
Yes. Specifically Russian military, Russian government, Russian trolls, etc.

Ukrainian YouTuber (This Channel is banned in Ukraine):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQTxbOmcWdY

"Where are the women running from the mall?"
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Funny video from Russians fighting on the side of Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlFWV2UP0V8
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Konashenkov

He's a liar. Which part of this are you finding so hard to understand?

Zelensky lied that 1,000 civilians died in the mall.

As far as I know, he said there were 1000 civilians in the mall (likely correct) and many may have died (unknown at the time and the numbers are still rising as they dig through the rubble, but "many" seems to be correct too).

None of it in any way justifies or excuses a missile hit to a shopping mall, whether there were 100 or 1000 or 10000 people in it, whether 20 or 200 or 2000 died.

only the Russians are to blame for everything

Yes. Specifically Russian military, Russian government, Russian trolls, etc.
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The probable reason for this is the wrong status of the shopping center in Google, there was a note that the shopping center is not working.

Russian military using Google maps to carry out missile strikes might be in the top 100 (well, top 1000 for sure) of the most idiotic Kremlin troll scripts Roll Eyes

As for "not working"... if you look at Google maps right now, Silpo shows as "temporarily closed" but some other stores show as "open", with business hours etc. There is no overall "status" for the mall itself as far as I can tell. So it's an absurd excuse no matter how you look at it.

And even Silpo status could have been set after the mall was destroyed, which would make a lot more sense than this excuse.
In essence, that is, what to say, except for attempts to insult? Zelensky lied that 1,000 civilians died in the mall. The director of the shopping center showed criminal negligence by clearly instructing employees to ignore the air raid signals. But only the Russians are to blame for everything, who would doubt it.
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after the mall was destroyed, which would make a lot more sense than this excuse.

Where did the numerous military personnel in the parking lot photos come from?

Konashenkov pointed out that the store was closed.
legendary
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The probable reason for this is the wrong status of the shopping center in Google, there was a note that the shopping center is not working.

Russian military using Google maps to carry out missile strikes might be in the top 100 (well, top 1000 for sure) of the most idiotic Kremlin troll scripts Roll Eyes

As for "not working"... if you look at Google maps right now, Silpo shows as "temporarily closed" but some other stores show as "open", with business hours etc. There is no overall "status" for the mall itself as far as I can tell. So it's an absurd excuse no matter how you look at it.

And even Silpo status could have been set after the mall was destroyed, which would make a lot more sense than this excuse.
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There were two separate missile hits in the area, one to the shopping mall, another to an industrial building about 500 meters away (next to a park). There is no indication the the industrial building had a military purpose but even if it did, there was no ammunition detonation or widespread fire. The mall did not catch fire from the industrial building because there are many undamaged structures between the two locations. Basically everything Russian media said about this attack is false.
I have not studied this episode in detail, I will say a few words from what I know. The missile attack on Kremenchuk is atypical for this operation, for several reasons. Usually such strikes are carried out at night to minimize the risks to the civilian population, this strike was carried out during the day. The probable reason for this is the wrong status of the shopping center in Google, there was a note that the shopping center is not working. The second curious moment - the blow was delivered by old x22 cruise missiles, which are not very high-precision (according to the passport, the spread can reach 500 meters, if you are not lucky to get in different directions of the normal distribution - which apparently happened in practice). Well, the director of the shopping center, of course, is also to blame for the fact that there was no evacuation of people during an air raid signal. It is apparently pointless to talk about the zero effectiveness of the missile defense system against old missiles suitable only for disposal. I think both sides of the conflict should take some lessons from this episode for the future. I'm sorry that civilians suffered, it was not planned.
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