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I'm sure that the Ukrainian government is corrupt and has oppressed many people within its borders at various occasions, BTW, which is why I wouldn't donate to their official BTC addresses or anything like that.

To be fair, Putin and his rich buddies are largely responsible for corruption in Ukraine over the past 15+ years.

And If things go his way enough, it wouldn't be a surprise if a chunk of the donations end up in the pockets of Russians.  So you're not wrong.
People are now booking Airbnb's in an effort to financially assist Ukrainians. While I'm not against donations, handing out your hard-earned money to some government BTC address doesn't actually guarantee you that it's being put into good use, helping those in need. As others have already mentioned, Ukraine  is one of the most corrupt nations in Europe, according to Guardian (2015), that's not the point though.

From my point of view, the Airbnb concept of donations doesn't sound bad.
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When Switzerland, Luxemburg, Israel and Turkey vote together against you, it is time to re-think your strategy.


Turkey is on its side, selling drones to Ukraine while inviting the Russian billionaires in.

Turkiye rejects any 'witch-hunt' against Russians, Russian culture

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Turkiye’s president on Wednesday strongly rejected any moves resembling "a witch-hunt” against the Russian people, arts, scholars, or artists.

"Just as we would not abandon Ukraine, we also do not accept actions akin to a witch-hunt against the Russian people, literature, students or artists," President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told his Justice and Development (AK) Party's parliamentary group.

Citing Germany's Munich Philharmonic firing a Russian conductor over his support for Russian President Vladimir Putin, Erdogan said such "fascist practices" cast a shadow over Ukraine's "legitimate struggle" in resisting Russian troops by fueling a "climate of hatred and grudges and sowing new grievances."

Tbh it is a good strategy. I wouldn't trust hypocrites blindly neither.
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Question to Ukrainians and Russians - Why am I receiving in social media pictures and video of crippled Russian soldiers bodies and corpses? Often with a message like "that your meat back, we dont need it". Or footages of destroyed military equipment. And all these video are with maximum aggression and bad language. I suppose I got all that because I use Cyrillic or post on Russian in social media. I am not Russian, I only speak that language. Or what the hell this is it at all? Propaganda or an act to threat me ? Or idea is to show me what is really going on in Ukraine right now?

Update your short info that you're not pro-Russia, but just speaking russian.
Can't do much other than that, maybe reporting and blocking the offenders?



USA now threatening China with secondary sanctions?
Give us a break, ladies and gentlemen, we know what constant escalation leads to...
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When Switzerland, Luxemburg, Israel and Turkey vote together against you, it is time to re-think your strategy.

I would say that that's a pretty good indication that you are doing something right.  Just doesn't happen to be what the international bankers who own the current petro-dollar debt-backed monetary system wish.



How is having failing currency, being isolated by the rest of the world, losing many lives in a war against smaller nation without getting any success is doing something right?
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Question to Ukrainians and Russians - Why am I receiving in social media pictures and video of crippled Russian soldiers bodies and corpses? Often with a message like "that your meat back, we dont need it". Or footages of destroyed military equipment. And all these video are with maximum aggression and bad language. I suppose I got all that because I use Cyrillic or post on Russian in social media. I am not Russian, I only speak that language. Or what the hell this is it at all? Propaganda or an act to threat me ? Or idea is to show me what is really going on in Ukraine right now?
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When Switzerland, Luxemburg, Israel and Turkey vote together against you, it is time to re-think your strategy.

I would say that that's a pretty good indication that you are doing something right.  Just doesn't happen to be what the international bankers who own the current petro-dollar debt-backed monetary system wish.

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I can see al the Putin's apologists want to make all the discussion about "nazi" here "nazi" there... let's open the perspective a little bit:

- Putin has ordered a list of hostile countries to be compiled. His advisors told him that it might be much much faster to make a list of "Non-hostile" countries.

- Putin has decided to allow humanitarian corridors... for Ukrainians to go to his RUSSIA.

- Putin is shelling civil targets. Please, someone out there deny this, I am eager for an excuse to post 50 photos here.

You see... there are so things that are actually relevant to this war  as opposed to the lamest propaganda out here. Seriously guys, the old USSR would have never lasted a year if you guys were in the "communications" teams.

When Switzerland, Luxemburg, Israel and Turkey vote together against you, it is time to re-think your strategy.
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^^^^^ So you claim the Ukraine Nazis fight the Russian Nazis?

Anyway here is Donbas residents speaking of the ukraine military attacks.
Anybody thinking Donbas and Lugansk have a future as part of Ukraine lives in Fairyland.

https://rumble.com/vwt0d0-interviews-with-residents-of-donbas-ukrainian-military-has-been-attacking-i.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_mediu...


Some main stream news.
 Ukraine says no longer insisting on NATO membership
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/nod-russia-ukraine-says-no-165955908.html

One down

Donetsk, and Luhansk people already decided many times over what they want and they decide and not some corrupt drug addict far far away.
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De-Nazification of Ukraine
We need De-Nazification of Putin's troops.

A very famous Nazi group of Russia's Troops is a German Nazi entrepreneur participating in Putins wars again and again. It's Wagner group and was involved already in Syria to keep Despot Assad in power and Putin hired Wagner's troops.
CEO of Wagner group is currently Dmitriy Utkin, a Russian Nazi: https://www.italy24news.com/world/391586.html

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In 2022 images surfaced of Utkin purportedly showing Waffen SS collar tab and Reichsadler Eagle tattoos on his collar and chest. Additionally, several prominent members of the Wagner group have been photographed or recorded in Nazi uniforms or taking part in re-enactments of WWII events.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group
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De-Nazification of Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1fuhKwXVA
Bottom line is this Ukraine has plenty of issues to deal with, Azov is not the only one.
Other parts in the world in need of a little de-communism and then there is sunshine again.


At this point, I think it is Russia that has issues.  Here is Putin discussing his current predicament.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v14SnRtMffo

I saw the last clip a couple of days earlier, but ir was described as russian intruders stopping people from leaving Mariupol...
Dunno which version is the truth, or if it's even some unrelated footage from the past at some other place of the world.

As they say,
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The first casualty of war is the truth
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De-Nazification of Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1fuhKwXVA
Bottom line is this Ukraine has plenty of issues to deal with, Azov is not the only one.
Other parts in the world in need of a little de-communism and then there is sunshine again.


At this point, I think it is Russia that has issues.  Here is Putin discussing his current predicament.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v14SnRtMffo
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Ukraine has plenty of issues to deal with

I can't argue with that. For example, expel all Russian mercenaries from our sovereign territory.


Other parts in the world in need of a little de-communism and then there is sunshine again.

Maybe you finally should include Russia to that parts of the world? Because it is who promotes these sick ideas in the modern world and blocks sunshine for everyone else.
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De-Nazification of Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1fuhKwXVA
Bottom line is this Ukraine has plenty of issues to deal with, Azov is not the only one.
Other parts in the world in need of a little de-communism and then there is sunshine again.

How about a little more de-controlfreakishness and more emphasization on a global scale?
Fuck fear, fuck religions. The roots of all evil.
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De-Nazification of Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1fuhKwXVA
Bottom line is this Ukraine has plenty of issues to deal with, Azov is not the only one.
Other parts in the world in need of a little de-communism and then there is sunshine again.
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Holly shit I was reading just about the Azov Battalion, but this Right Sector is not much better
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Non of this looked good. Is there condition (from Germany?) that those 17.000 provided anti tank missiles don't get in the hands of these guys?

If forced genetic manipulation and biometric tagging was not enough to stop passengers from flying the friendly skys (and hurting the earth with their carbon footprint), the multitude of loose surface to air missiles might do the trick.

I'll predict that pretty much every country which has 'Jews' is going to be turned 'white nationalist' before too long so that the chosen people will voluntarily return to the promised land.  Thus fulfilling the 'prophecies of the elders' or some weird shit like that.

It's also prophecy that the return will be 'minus 1/3' or 2/3rds or some crap like that.  The 'Jews' are not going to get out of this very well either even if these freaks get their way.  Granted, being herded into a sand-pit to be ruled over by creepy Kabbalist reactionaries might not be a fate worse than death, but it won't be far off either.  And if the (majority) normal Jews manage to shake off the yoke to achieve some quasi-secular society, they will be considered by whatever remains of gentile humanity to be guilty of what befell the world in the 2020's.

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So tired of the "nazi" argument and a "nazi government" led by a jew, ~


Exactly.

Look at the wiki page on the Right Sector, a far-right Ukrainian nationalist political party.

and look how many of them in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, the Supreme Council of Ukraine:



Zero. Putin is a liar.
Damn your link lead me to a deep deeeep rabbit hole, and it appeared to be a Nazi rabbit

Sure there are Nazi, KKK ... sympathizers everywhere but i'm not aware of anywhere where they're allowed to form military battalions like Azov Battalion In 2017, the size of the regiment was estimated at more than 2,500 members.
Are there records of Ukrainian government officially denouncing/condemning/prosecuting them? How do average people react to them i.e. would an average person turn around and cross the street if they see them coming their way?

Holly shit I was reading just about the Azov Battalion, but this Right Sector is not much better
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...right-wing to far-right Ukrainian nationalist neo-nazi[8] political party and paramilitary movement.
…The coalition became a political party on 22 March 2014, at which time it claimed to have roughly 10,000 members.
...Right Sector's political ideology has been described as hardline right-wing nationalist, neo-fascist, or neo-Nazi, and right-wing, far-right or radical right.
...According to the UN Human Rights Council, Right Sector is one of "potentially violent militias that acted seemingly on their own authority, thanks to a high level of official toleration, and with almost complete impunity, both in the Donbass region and in wider Ukraine" that "use violence or threats of violence to exert pressure on persons holding dissenting views, the judicial system andother mechanisms of accountability".
...In the 2014 Ukrainian parliamentary election Yarosh as a Right Sector candidate won a parliament seat by winning a single-member district with 29.8% of the votes.
...Right Sector spokesperson Boryslav Bereza as an independent candidate also won a seat and district with 29.4% of the votes.
...In December 2021 the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine refused to disclose any details on cooperation with Yarosh citing the confidentiality of the information requested.
...The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported anti-Semitic incidents involving Svoboda and Right Sector during the demonstration, where their militants were calling political opponents "Zhyd" and flying flags with neo-Nazi symbols. According to Haaretz, these organizations were also distributing translated editions of Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to the demonstrators in Independence Square.
...In April 2014, Yarosh allegedly demanded to be appointed Vice Prime Minister for the law enforcement matters but his demand was rejected; he was offered a post of the Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine instead[76][77] but Yarosh rejected this position as being beneath him.
...European Union's High Representative for Foreign Affairs, Catherine Ashton, stated, "I strongly condemn the pressure by activists of the Right Sector who have surrounded the building of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. Such an intimidation of the parliament is against the democratic principles and rule of law."
...On 31 March 2014, a drunken Right Sector activist started shooting near a restaurant in central Kyiv. Three people were wounded, including the deputy head of the Kyiv City State Administration.
...Right Sector was officially registered as a political party by the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice on 22 May 2014.
...On 13 June 2014, a prosecutor's office in Kyiv was stormed by people who claimed to be Right Sector activists.
...In the 2014 Ukrainian parliamentary election, Yarosh as a Right Sector candidate won a parliament seat by winning single-member district number 39 located in Vasylkivka Raion with 29.76% of the votes.
...In the same election, Boryslav Bereza, Right Sector's chief of information, also won a seat as an independent candidate by winning a district in Kyiv with 29.44% of the votes.
...On November 2, 2021, Yarosh said on social media he had been appointed Adviser to the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
...Petro Poroshenko in an interview with DW English in late 2015, claimed that Right Sector was going to be disarmed and taken out of operations in Donbass, but still hasn't done so as of 2017
...On 19 July 2014 Right Sector said it was ready to contribute 5,000 people to fight, if the military provided suitable combat equipment
...In December 2015, group leader Dmytro Yarosh announced that the 5th and 8th battalions, and the medical battalion, would be incorporated into the Armed Forces of Ukraine following his departure from Right Sector.[42] The UVC, if possible, would become part of the National Guard of Ukraine and will in the near future report to the Ministry of Internal Affairs or would be incorporated into the Ukrainian Ground Forces.
...Right Sector has been described by BBC News as a "Ukrainian nationalist group"[20] and an "umbrella organization of far-right groups",[130] while Time has described it as a "radical right-wing group ... a coalition of militant ultra-nationalists",[29] with an ideology that "borders on fascism".[10] The New York Times has described it as a "nationalist group" and a "coalition of once-fringe Ukrainian nationalist groups".[19] The Guardian has identified it as a "nationalist Ukrainian group",[131] Reuters as a "far-right nationalist group",[132] Agence France Presse as a "far-right" group,[32] and the Wall Street Journal as an "umbrella group for far-right activists and ultranationalists".[133] Die Welt, the New York Times, and Le Monde Diplomatique have described some of Right Sector's constituent groups as radical right-wing, neofascist, or neo-Nazi, but also that is distanced itself from antisemitism.
...According to journalist Oleg Shynkarenko, Yarosh has indicated that Right Sector opposes homosexuality and has also implied that the right of the nation trumps human rights.
...Academic and media sources have described some of Right Sector's constituent groups as right-wing nationalist,[18][144] ultranationalist,[49][145] neo-fascist,[52] neo-Nazi,[49] right-wing,[52] radical right or far right,[146][147][148] ultra-conservative,[50] and paramilitary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector



But that lead me to Svoboda party. They got 890 / 43.122 regions and 1 seat in the Verkhovna Rada
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...It has been also widely considered as a neofascist, neo-Nazi and antisemitic party by multiple journalists and organizations, although those labels are disputed, while some consider them as a radical-right nationalist party.
...Svoboda has been described as an anti-Semitic and sometimes a neo-Nazi party by some journalists,[121][126][139] organizations that monitor hate speech,[140] Jewish organizations,[141][142] and political opponents.
...In December 2012, the European Parliament expressed concern regarding Svoboda's growing support, recalling "that racist, anti-Semitic and xenophobic views go against the EU's fundamental values and principles,"
...Party leader Oleh Tyahnybok stated in March 2013 that the EU warning against Svoboda's influence was the result of "Moscow agents working through a Bulgarian socialist MP".
...The previous name of the party was an intentional reference to the Nazi Party in Germany, as "Social National" is a reference to "National Socialism", the ideology claimed by the Nazi Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)

Then i stumbled to this in center of Kiev

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Head of Jewish group notes Nazi symbol appeared in Kiev ahead of march there Saturday by torch-carrying nationalists
...The street where the shopping mall is located is named for Stepan Bandera, a Ukrainian nationalist who briefly collaborated with Nazi Germany in its fight against Russia. His troops are believed to have killed thousands of Jews.
...video was taken by a shopper on Saturday night, hours before several hundred nationalists marched through Kiev carrying torches.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/staircase-in-ukraine-mall-decorated-with-giant-swastika/

Torch carrying nationalists in the capital of the European city could be? Well appears to be so





Non of this looked good. Is there condition (from Germany?) that those 17.000 provided anti tank missiles don't get in the hands of these guys?
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This photograph belongs to a group of US army members in Afghanistan. Another random crap.

I can't make people see if they are not willing to see but I can point the way:

All you have to do is check a simple wiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion



Now go on, keep telling yourself these are freedom fighters. Btw why does that flag of Azov reminds of something. I think I must have seen this before... Could it be...



OMFG
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You know what is new fascism and symbol of it?:





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Z is for Zionism; Zuh, Zuh, Zuh, Zuh, Zionism.





Z is for Я зaйeбaл (Ya ZAYEBAL)
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