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Topic: Russian roadmap to Solar System colonisation. Moon is the first step. - page 8. (Read 6186 times)

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"The reason why we never went back"... For Americans...


The reason why the Russians never went back to the Moon... Their Vodka Moonshining Bucket On Wheels Program... Way Scarier!  Cheesy




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhghORUwymU


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Chinese rockets don't, and US rockets don't, and French rockets don't....

The RD-180 powers the Atlas V rocket, the main launch vehicle used to get US military and civil payloads into space.
That's true at the moment, although not in the past and quite likely not in the future.  As the referenced article states:

One of the things Americans may dislike very much indeed is a possible ban on the sale of RD-180 engines to the US under a contract with Russian manufacturer NPO Energomash. The RD-180 powers the Atlas V rocket, the main launch vehicle used to get US military and civil payloads into space.


In other words, Congress is likely to require compliance with law previously enacted which means the Russian motor and launch services are not legal.

The RD180 is a very nice engine due to it's burning two fuels:  hydrogen and kerosene.  This means it's efficiency is higher over the first stage boost, and in particular the first stage boost can be prolonged.  It would be a major effort to create from scratch a two fuel motor.  But there are many existing very fine motors in the US inventory for which tooling and contractor support exists, and there are many of these already warehoused.

That said, that statement I objected to is not sustainable.
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Chinese rockets don't, and US rockets don't, and French rockets don't....

The RD-180 powers the Atlas V rocket, the main launch vehicle used to get US military and civil payloads into space.
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The engines of the Saturn V heavy lift rockets are russian made. It would take 3-6 years for the americans go to space with out the help of the russians if they start now creating the vehicles and engines and need to spend billions of dollar.

As far as I know, Saturn V was last used many many years ago. Which one was the last American space shuttle?

I mean not just Saturn V, most other heavy lift rockets use russian engine.

No, of course they do not. 

Chinese rockets don't, and US rockets don't, and French rockets don't....
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Russian space technology, as of now is much more advanced than the American public one.
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premier Dmitry Rogozin said: 'We are coming to the moon forever.'

That quote makes sense not, stupid daily mail.

p.s. I love the pic of the children shying away from Putin Cheesy

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/11/article-2602291-1D070F8400000578-838_634x417.jpg
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How Russia could strangle the US space program

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/140324/nasa-russia-sanctions-rocket-rd-180-atlas-v

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The US relies heavily on Russia to furnish the engines that power rockets that deliver both military and civil payloads into space. This includes GPS systems in cars and cellphones, and even systems that allow ATMs to function. Weather satellites are launched into space via Russian-powered rockets, and military systems such as early missile detection also depend on our friends in Moscow. In addition, since NASA scrapped the space shuttle program in 2011, the US has to rely on Russian Soyuz capsules to get its astronauts to the space station and to bring them back home.

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One of the things Americans may dislike very much indeed is a possible ban on the sale of RD-180 engines to the US under a contract with Russian manufacturer NPO Energomash. The RD-180 powers the Atlas V rocket, the main launch vehicle used to get US military and civil payloads into space.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2602291/We-coming-Moon-FOREVER-Russia-sets-plans-conquer-colonise-space-including-permanent-manned-moon-base.html

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The West fears Russia is poised to invade Ukraine, but it seems the Kremlin has a bigger conquest in its sights - the Moon. Moscow today set out plans to conquer and colonise space, including a permanent manned moon base. Deputy premier Dmitry Rogozin said: 'We are coming to the moon forever.'
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What are you smoking? We need more debris out there.
Those are for the protection from impending alien invasions.

Yeah more debris... so that all the telecommunication systems will collapse. No television, no mobile phones and no internet. The Japanese are doing a great job in cleaning it, and the Chinese are trying to create new problems.
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What are you smoking? We need more debris out there.
Those are for the protection from impending alien invasions.

Haha, if aliens can manage to fold space to overcome the vast distances they'd have to travel to get here, I'm sure they can let our crap bounce off their shields.
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What are you smoking? We need more debris out there.
Those are for the protection from impending alien invasions.
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The engines of the Saturn V heavy lift rockets are russian made. It would take 3-6 years for the americans go to space with out the help of the russians if they start now creating the vehicles and engines and need to spend billions of dollar.

As far as I know, Saturn V was last used many many years ago. Which one was the last American space shuttle?

I mean not just Saturn V, most other heavy lift rockets use russian engine.
legendary
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The engines of the Saturn V heavy lift rockets are russian made. It would take 3-6 years for the americans go to space with out the help of the russians if they start now creating the vehicles and engines and need to spend billions of dollar.

As far as I know, Saturn V was last used many many years ago. Which one was the last American space shuttle?
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The engines of the Saturn V heavy lift rockets are russian made. It would take 3-6 years for the americans go to space with out the help of the russians if they start now creating the vehicles and engines and need to spend billions of dollar.
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Have they done anything notable? ISS was mostly Russian and European technology.

Russians were brought in because NASA didn't had the necessary technological advantage.
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Really?

Have they done anything notable? ISS was mostly Russian and European technology.
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