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February 21, 2018, 12:01:03 PM
once again GPU-Z recognizes the cards but MSI AB doesn't..
MSI AB will not recognize Polaris/Baffin cards with newer drivers, something is broken there. It actually will recognize them if you have 1-2 cards in the rig, but not if there's more (maybe up to 3 cards are recognized, I don't remember, but I read somewhere that this whole thing was broken on purpose due to MSI AB dev hating miners or something). The last driver that works with MSI AB is the August Blockchain beta. It's not that big a deal though, the only thing that MSI AB does well for AMD cards is the custom fan curve. Actual clocks/voltages control is way better in OverdriveNTool anyway, it's the fan control that sucks there, especially for "0 DB" cards (with target temps at ~ 50-60 C, I'm regularly seeing some of my rx560 cards stopping their fans and starting them again, sometimes every 5 minutes or so; still haven't figured out how to deal with this myself).

That would explain why everything was fine when I had 3 cards, but broke when I added the 4th.

Meanwhile, I'm still trying to figure out how to properly use OverDrivenTool. I'll get there... eventually.

EDIT - well,  threw caution to the wind and just started changing stuff and seeing what worked and I made some progress. Got the new core and mem clocks to stick on every card and set a target temp of 64C for the fans. Saved the profile and next I'll see about automatically applying that profile either at boot or right before starting a miner (pretty much only Cryptonight or Ethash will be run on this rig).

EDIT 2 - and some weirdness, of course: looks like Cryptonight hashrate is up on the 1st and 4th cards, but not the 2nd and 3rd. GPU-Z reports the new clock rates for all 4 of the RX 560s, though, and I used the same 2-thread/intensity config for all cards in xmr-stak.

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February 21, 2018, 10:54:10 AM
once again GPU-Z recognizes the cards but MSI AB doesn't..
MSI AB will not recognize Polaris/Baffin cards with newer drivers, something is broken there. It actually will recognize them if you have 1-2 cards in the rig, but not if there's more (maybe up to 3 cards are recognized, I don't remember, but I read somewhere that this whole thing was broken on purpose due to MSI AB dev hating miners or something). The last driver that works with MSI AB is the August Blockchain beta. It's not that big a deal though, the only thing that MSI AB does well for AMD cards is the custom fan curve. Actual clocks/voltages control is way better in OverdriveNTool anyway, it's the fan control that sucks there, especially for "0 DB" cards (with target temps at ~ 50-60 C, I'm regularly seeing some of my rx560 cards stopping their fans and starting them again, sometimes every 5 minutes or so; still haven't figured out how to deal with this myself).
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February 21, 2018, 08:06:15 AM
Well, I DDU'ed the existing Adrenalin 18.2.2 driver, reinstalled it, re-patched all the BIOS and... once again GPU-Z recognizes the cards but MSI AB doesn't..

So I d/l'ed OverDrivenTool and now I am looking at a UI that seems very capable of causing trouble, if not outright damage. While I tend to prefer more Spartan UIs than the overly gaudy, and resource hogging, MSI AB, I also prefer there be some sort of documentation I can peruse, rather than just search for what others did and hope I don't fry something.

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February 21, 2018, 07:07:00 AM
This card is mostly gaming, rather than used for mining. Although, if you apply overclocking and activate the firmware, the speed of crypto-extraction by rx 560 increases by tens of percent. rx 560 4 is ideal for mining modern crypto currency (including zek). It demonstrates low energy consumption, which has a positive effect on lowering production costs.
Performance is high, especially in comparison with previous versions. Cost - optimal, payback ~ half a year, reliability - increased. Ideal for switching to a higher and profitable level of mining!
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February 21, 2018, 04:06:13 AM
This is what I do - despite what people say on Windows 10 you don't need dummy hmdi plugs, instead if your motherboard supports it force on-board graphics (so no graphics go via the cards you are mining with), and allow Windows 10 to detect the cards in device manager normally.

When adding new cards always and I mean always (this has cost me hours) uninstall the AMD drivers with DDU, then install the blockchain drivers fresh.

Lastly I've had much better results for AMD cards with OverdriveNTool instead of Afterburner etc.

I support this, wattman and OverdriveNTool are only ones that always worked for me, direct OC from miners and AB and Trixx get
broken often...only if you don't upgrade drivers, use AB or trixx
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February 20, 2018, 08:27:13 PM
This is what I do - despite what people say on Windows 10 you don't need dummy hmdi plugs, instead if your motherboard supports it force on-board graphics (so no graphics go via the cards you are mining with), and allow Windows 10 to detect the cards in device manager normally.

When adding new cards always and I mean always (this has cost me hours) uninstall the AMD drivers with DDU, then install the blockchain drivers fresh.

Lastly I've had much better results for AMD cards with OverdriveNTool instead of Afterburner etc.
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February 20, 2018, 08:06:06 PM
Just installed the 4th RX 560 on my Onda D1800 and it looks like I'm playing "one step forward, two steps backwards" with it. Went through all the rigamarole to patch the BIOS and now MSI AB doesn't recognize any of the cards while GPU-Z does. I also bought more HDMI dummy plugs so every card has one now and still no change. Hashrate on XMR-stak has also dropped on the first card back to what it was before - 420-440 H/s instead of ~500 - and the other cards are, of course, performing similarly.

I don't think I'm going to tinker with it any more tonight - I've set it mining DERO and even though the total hashrate of 1800 H/s isn't quite what I wanted to achieve, it's still 400 more than it was before I installed the 4th card.

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February 20, 2018, 01:14:27 PM
Core: 1050MHz
Memory: 2100 MHz
BIOS modded by Polaris using HiveOS - Cryptonight - 440h/s at 43ºC
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February 18, 2018, 12:09:04 PM

Holy shit, that worked! I just happened to have an HDMI dummy plug that I purchased for my RX 570 rig but didn't end up needing. I plugged it into the first RX 560 on the Onda rig and now the correct clock rates are showing up in GPU-Z while Cryptonight hashrate jumped by ~22 H/s per card (after stopping and restarting xmr-stak)! I'll try Claymore v11.0 on a <2GB DAG Ethash coin (MUSIC or UBQ) in about 15 minutes and update this post.

I have just one merit left to give out, but if solving a problem I didn't even know I have isn't worth a merit then this forum is screwed...

UPDATE - okay, looks like I need to get a dummy plug for *each* card; the hashrate jump in xmr-stak was ~66 H/s total and I *assumed* that it was spread equally per card, but when I loaded up Claymore only the first card shows a higher hashrate of 14 MH/s while the other two are still at 12.9 MH/s. Still, the dummy plugs are cheap and an easy fix!


Thats strange, I dont have same problem

I'm always using latest drivers, though

I'm guessing it's a mobo-dependent issue, then, as I'm also using the latest drivers (Adrenalin 18.2.2).
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February 18, 2018, 11:49:20 AM

Holy shit, that worked! I just happened to have an HDMI dummy plug that I purchased for my RX 570 rig but didn't end up needing. I plugged it into the first RX 560 on the Onda rig and now the correct clock rates are showing up in GPU-Z while Cryptonight hashrate jumped by ~22 H/s per card (after stopping and restarting xmr-stak)! I'll try Claymore v11.0 on a <2GB DAG Ethash coin (MUSIC or UBQ) in about 15 minutes and update this post.

I have just one merit left to give out, but if solving a problem I didn't even know I have isn't worth a merit then this forum is screwed...

UPDATE - okay, looks like I need to get a dummy plug for *each* card; the hashrate jump in xmr-stak was ~66 H/s total and I *assumed* that it was spread equally per card, but when I loaded up Claymore only the first card shows a higher hashrate of 14 MH/s while the other two are still at 12.9 MH/s. Still, the dummy plugs are cheap and an easy fix!


Thats strange, I dont have same problem

I'm always using latest drivers, though
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February 18, 2018, 11:23:16 AM
Thanks for the clue on what to check and you are indeed correct - GPU-Z 2.7.0 reports the stock and current clock values are the same (1295/1750, vs. 1200/1900 reported by MSI AB) so something buggy going on for sure, and you get a merit! Disabling the iGPU on the Onda mobos has led to a lot of problems with NO video showing up, and it not being recoverable without removing the CMOS backup battery.

EDIT - so the plan, I guess, is to order a DVI-D to VGA adapter (so I can continue using my KVM switch with my other Onda board that has all NVIDIA cards) and see if I can get the mobo to disable the onboard VGA *and* enable one of the PCIe GPUs for video out.

Again, I don't use these new drivers, but on those old I need HDMI dummy plug, it's working without it for me, but I know some RX cards need it. I use it because Teamviewer resolution that is terrible without it. I'm using one of those 2 dollars HDMI to VGA convertor, it's fake not the original, but it does the job Cheesy
All my rigs have Z270 chipset.
Thanks for the Merit Smiley I was thinking that I will have it because of my guides, but they not giving me almost none Cheesy

Holy shit, that worked! I just happened to have an HDMI dummy plug that I purchased for my RX 570 rig but didn't end up needing. I plugged it into the first RX 560 on the Onda rig and now the correct clock rates are showing up in GPU-Z while Cryptonight hashrate jumped by ~22 H/s per card (after stopping and restarting xmr-stak)! I'll try Claymore v11.0 on a <2GB DAG Ethash coin (MUSIC or UBQ) in about 15 minutes and update this post.

I have just one merit left to give out, but if solving a problem I didn't even know I have isn't worth a merit then this forum is screwed...

UPDATE - okay, looks like I need to get a dummy plug for *each* card; the hashrate jump in xmr-stak was ~66 H/s total and I *assumed* that it was spread equally per card, but when I loaded up Claymore only the first card shows a higher hashrate of 14 MH/s while the other two are still at 12.9 MH/s. Still, the dummy plugs are cheap and an easy fix!
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February 18, 2018, 10:54:03 AM
They might fix it. I'm still on 17.6.2 drivers and on these and older ones there were problem with stability and OC settings, clocks weren't successfully applied when you check it with Hwinfo and GPU-Z. Some of my customers have same problems with newer drivers too, but not sure about Adrenaline.

Thanks for the clue on what to check and you are indeed correct - GPU-Z 2.7.0 reports the stock and current clock values are the same (1295/1750, vs. 1200/1900 reported by MSI AB) so something buggy going on for sure, and you get a merit! Disabling the iGPU on the Onda mobos has led to a lot of problems with NO video showing up, and it not being recoverable without removing the CMOS backup battery.

EDIT - so the plan, I guess, is to order a DVI-D to VGA adapter (so I can continue using my KVM switch with my other Onda board that has all NVIDIA cards) and see if I can get the mobo to disable the onboard VGA *and* enable one of the PCIe GPUs for video out.

Hmm... I just switched my (3) RX 560 rig over to mining UBQ to check this out and I'm getting 38.8 MH/s total with 1200/1900 set in MSI AB. Driver version is Adrenalin 18.2.2 in Compute mode. So my speed does seem a bit low per card (12.9 MH/s) given they all have Elpida memory. Not using the iGPU is a bit of a problem with the Onda D1800 mining mobos, though.

EDIT - and dropping all 3 mem clocks to 1800 did not change hashrate as it should have...
You probably need better timing strap. Also it's better to change clocks before you start mine it sometimes doesn't react on changes.

I'm interested... but I need to sort out this iGPU mess, first.
Again, I don't use these new drivers, but on those old I need HDMI dummy plug, it's working without it for me, but I know some RX cards need it. I use it because Teamviewer resolution that is terrible without it. I'm using one of those 2 dollars HDMI to VGA convertor, it's fake not the original, but it does the job Cheesy
All my rigs have Z270 chipset.
Thanks for the Merit Smiley I was thinking that I will have it because of my guides, but they not giving me almost none Cheesy
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February 18, 2018, 08:10:54 AM
They might fix it. I'm still on 17.6.2 drivers and on these and older ones there were problem with stability and OC settings, clocks weren't successfully applied when you check it with Hwinfo and GPU-Z. Some of my customers have same problems with newer drivers too, but not sure about Adrenaline.

Thanks for the clue on what to check and you are indeed correct - GPU-Z 2.7.0 reports the stock and current clock values are the same (1295/1750, vs. 1200/1900 reported by MSI AB) so something buggy going on for sure, and you get a merit! Disabling the iGPU on the Onda mobos has led to a lot of problems with NO video showing up, and it not being recoverable without removing the CMOS backup battery.

EDIT - so the plan, I guess, is to order a DVI-D to VGA adapter (so I can continue using my KVM switch with my other Onda board that has all NVIDIA cards) and see if I can get the mobo to disable the onboard VGA *and* enable one of the PCIe GPUs for video out.

Hmm... I just switched my (3) RX 560 rig over to mining UBQ to check this out and I'm getting 38.8 MH/s total with 1200/1900 set in MSI AB. Driver version is Adrenalin 18.2.2 in Compute mode. So my speed does seem a bit low per card (12.9 MH/s) given they all have Elpida memory. Not using the iGPU is a bit of a problem with the Onda D1800 mining mobos, though.

EDIT - and dropping all 3 mem clocks to 1800 did not change hashrate as it should have...
You probably need better timing strap. Also it's better to change clocks before you start mine it sometimes doesn't react on changes.

I'm interested... but I need to sort out this iGPU mess, first.
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February 18, 2018, 04:14:50 AM
Do not use iGPU with AMD! Bad idead, it blocks OC settings, might be fixed with newer drivers, but it was big problem for most cards for mining. Only with Nvidia cards.
Could you please elaborate on this? I'm using onboard intel graphics on all my rigs, both amd and nvidia, and I did have some issues with amd systems, but have always just assumed that it's due to their buggy drivers and all the nonsense with modded bioses, paching etc. I've only got one rig with amd cards that doesn't use onboard graphics, and it is indeed the most stable among them all. So now your post made me think that maybe I should try disabling the onboard on all my amd rigs. OC settings don't seem to be blocked though, I'm using overdriventool and it works fine.
They might fix it. I'm still on 17.6.2 drivers and on these and older ones there were problem with stability and OC settings, clocks weren't successfully applied when you check it with Hwinfo and GPU-Z. Some of my customers have same problems with newer drivers too, but not sure about Adrenaline.

Hmm... I just switched my (3) RX 560 rig over to mining UBQ to check this out and I'm getting 38.8 MH/s total with 1200/1900 set in MSI AB. Driver version is Adrenalin 18.2.2 in Compute mode. So my speed does seem a bit low per card (12.9 MH/s) given they all have Elpida memory. Not using the iGPU is a bit of a problem with the Onda D1800 mining mobos, though.

EDIT - and dropping all 3 mem clocks to 1800 did not change hashrate as it should have...
You probably need better timing strap. Also it's better to change clocks before you start mine it sometimes doesn't react on changes.
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February 17, 2018, 12:10:11 PM
I switched from sgminer-gm 5.5.5 to xmr-stak 2.2.0 and tweaked amd.txt as suggested by @Vlizzjeffrey and I'm getting 1370 H/s out of (3) 2GB XFX RX 560 cards. That's exactly the same as with sgminer, but it seems a lot more stable. The specific problem I was having with sgminer is it would lock the rig up so bad it needed to be hard reset, usually, but not always, when I used the KVM switch to select it after it had been running awhile. Note that I am using the integrated GPU in the Celeron CPU for video, and not one of the mining cards, so this behavior was quite perplexing.
Do not use iGPU with AMD! Bad idead, it blocks OC settings, might be fixed with newer drivers, but it was big problem for most cards for mining. Only with Nvidia cards.
Properly configured SGminer has a lot higher hashrate than XMR-STAK 2.2 even older XMR-STAK-AMD has higher hashrate than 2.2. I've compiled latest sources from XMR-STAK it's in my guide for download, it has slightly higher hashrate but still older AMD version is better, also it has lowered dev fee to 1%.

Hmm... I just switched my (3) RX 560 rig over to mining UBQ to check this out and I'm getting 38.8 MH/s total with 1200/1900 set in MSI AB. Driver version is Adrenalin 18.2.2 in Compute mode. So my speed does seem a bit low per card (12.9 MH/s) given they all have Elpida memory. Not using the iGPU is a bit of a problem with the Onda D1800 mining mobos, though.

EDIT - and dropping all 3 mem clocks to 1800 did not change hashrate as it should have...
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February 17, 2018, 11:40:00 AM
Do not use iGPU with AMD! Bad idead, it blocks OC settings, might be fixed with newer drivers, but it was big problem for most cards for mining. Only with Nvidia cards.
Could you please elaborate on this? I'm using onboard intel graphics on all my rigs, both amd and nvidia, and I did have some issues with amd systems, but have always just assumed that it's due to their buggy drivers and all the nonsense with modded bioses, paching etc. I've only got one rig with amd cards that doesn't use onboard graphics, and it is indeed the most stable among them all. So now your post made me think that maybe I should try disabling the onboard on all my amd rigs. OC settings don't seem to be blocked though, I'm using overdriventool and it works fine.
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February 17, 2018, 10:55:00 AM
I switched from sgminer-gm 5.5.5 to xmr-stak 2.2.0 and tweaked amd.txt as suggested by @Vlizzjeffrey and I'm getting 1370 H/s out of (3) 2GB XFX RX 560 cards. That's exactly the same as with sgminer, but it seems a lot more stable. The specific problem I was having with sgminer is it would lock the rig up so bad it needed to be hard reset, usually, but not always, when I used the KVM switch to select it after it had been running awhile. Note that I am using the integrated GPU in the Celeron CPU for video, and not one of the mining cards, so this behavior was quite perplexing.
Do not use iGPU with AMD! Bad idead, it blocks OC settings, might be fixed with newer drivers, but it was big problem for most cards for mining. Only with Nvidia cards.
Properly configured SGminer has a lot higher hashrate than XMR-STAK 2.2 even older XMR-STAK-AMD has higher hashrate than 2.2. I've compiled latest sources from XMR-STAK it's in my guide for download, it has slightly higher hashrate but still older AMD version is better, also it has lowered dev fee to 1%.
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February 17, 2018, 09:17:31 AM
I switched from sgminer-gm 5.5.5 to xmr-stak 2.2.0 and tweaked amd.txt as suggested by @Vlizzjeffrey and I'm getting 1370 H/s out of (3) 2GB XFX RX 560 cards. That's exactly the same as with sgminer, but it seems a lot more stable. The specific problem I was having with sgminer is it would lock the rig up so bad it needed to be hard reset, usually, but not always, when I used the KVM switch to select it after it had been running awhile. Note that I am using the integrated GPU in the Celeron CPU for video, and not one of the mining cards, so this behavior was quite perplexing.

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February 16, 2018, 05:11:59 PM
I also use xmrstak, tweaked to use 2 gpu threads it performs just as good as sgminer.

You going to share that portion of the amd.txt file? The "help" section - such as there is - doesn't explain how to set gpu threads.

Hey, to use 2 threads per gpu, just copy every line for your gpu's, so theres 2 lines for every gpu, thats all.

this is for my 4 gpu's with 2 threads per gpu:


"gpu_threads_conf" : [

   { "index" : 0, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
    { "index" : 0, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
    { "index" : 1, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
   { "index" : 1, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
        { "index" : 2, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
   { "index" : 2, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
   { "index" : 3, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
   { "index" : 3, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
   
],


Since im using xmrstak again, i can also let my cpu mine at the same time, since its a fx8320 and it does 430 hashes its worth it.

Hah, now it's my turn to give you merit for posting a config file!  Grin

I also put to work an old FX-8300 with xmr-stak in CPU-only mode but only getting about 340 H/s out of it. I spent a LOT of time tweaking the threads on that one, though, so I don't think I can wring any more out of it.



i did overclock the fx8120 to 4 ghz to get 400 hash out of it, use 7 threads for this cpu.

I am confused again, i used a 850 watt coolermaster bronze power supply with 66amp on the 12v rail, so i figured it was way overkill for 2x rx550 and 1x rx460 ( just sold one rx460 today)
So i hooked up a 600 watt coolermaster bronze with 44 amp on the 12 volt, and now i cant get these 2x rx550 and 1x rx460 stable, my plan was to use the 850 watt for maybe a 10x rx550 rig, since this crappy mobo already made it hard for me to get 4 cards working, dont think extending one pci slot to extra 4x pci slots is gonna work.

edit:
I also use xmrstak, tweaked to use 2 gpu threads it performs just as good as sgminer.

You going to share that portion of the amd.txt file? The "help" section - such as there is - doesn't explain how to set gpu threads.

Hey, to use 2 threads per gpu, just copy every line for your gpu's, so theres 2 lines for every gpu, thats all.

this is for my 4 gpu's with 2 threads per gpu:


"gpu_threads_conf" : [

   { "index" : 0, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
    { "index" : 0, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
    { "index" : 1, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
   { "index" : 1, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
        { "index" : 2, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
   { "index" : 2, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
   { "index" : 3, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
   { "index" : 3, "intensity" : 432, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
   
],


Since im using xmrstak again, i can also let my cpu mine at the same time, since its a fx8320 and it does 430 hashes its worth it.

Hah, now it's my turn to give you merit for posting a config file!  Grin

I also put to work an old FX-8300 with xmr-stak in CPU-only mode but only getting about 340 H/s out of it. I spent a LOT of time tweaking the threads on that one, though, so I don't think I can wring any more out of it.


I wasn't sure if the i 432 work with 2GB cards, so it does work? I've edited my guide to only 416.

BTW you better to mine AEON with CPU much better for CPU mining.

You are right, somehow i put it at 432 and i was having shutdowns after every seconds again, when i saw your post i immidiatly put it at 416 and its running so far Smiley
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February 16, 2018, 10:38:38 AM
I wasn't sure if the i 432 work with 2GB cards, so it does work? I've edited my guide to only 416.

BTW you better to mine AEON with CPU much better for CPU mining.

The primary CN coin I mine is DERO, with ITNS in 2nd place, and EDL in a very distant 3rd (it gets the AMD FX-8300 CPU  Grin ).

Since I've built up a decent stash of EDL and ITNS I might drop either/both of those for AEON, though. Looks interesting.

EDIT - good point about the XMR hard fork!
I think some dev will do it, just like somebody did it for XMR-STAK.
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