S7 controller has nine 18- pin jacks So what can we do with it? - page 2.

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Quote from: yslyung on November 26, 2015, 07:53:35 AM

Quote from: mcbiv on November 26, 2015, 07:20:45 AM

I just hooked two units together via the rails and then unmounted both control boards and place a single bb board and data port board in between the two miners held in place with a little velcro. The original cables the S7 ships with are plenty long enough when set up this way...

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 11, 2015, 03:22:41 PM

Quote from: alh on September 11, 2015, 01:51:37 PM

It would seem to me you could lash together two S7's with a single controller if you were to lay the miners on their sides, so that the "Top Side" were facing each other. Kind of awkward to wire up, but it shouldn't take any "long cables" to accomplish.

It would be interesting to know if the S7 cooling actually requires that the blades be vertical to work OK. While it's obvious what the "expected" orientation is, does it still behave well if it's laid on it's side?

point them upwards top to top that allows for vertical and hot air raises.

stack them on a box fan which allows for more air to help fans. also if fans fail the box fan may save the day.

thats what i did, works great.

thx for sharing the info guys but i noticed they do run slower than individual controller

how much slower? 4800 + 4800 = 9600

are you dropping to 9500 or 9400 or worse?

I theorize the controller is running 4 fans vs 2 so that the pcie runs volts say 12.0 vs 12.1 and thus lower speeds.

I also think 2 s-7s on two controllers give two sets of psu readings so if one psu is 12.1 and the other is 12.0 one s-7 will run better.

but 1 controller uses the lower reading so it reads the 12 and both s-7s run lower.

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Quote from: mcbiv on November 26, 2015, 07:20:45 AM

I just hooked two units together via the rails and then unmounted both control boards and place a single bb board and data port board in between the two miners held in place with a little velcro. The original cables the S7 ships with are plenty long enough when set up this way...

[img=http://s27.postimg.org/z2bmhxs3z/IMG_0128.jpg]
[img=http://s27.postimg.org/3u31km2dr/IMG_0120.jpg]

Quote from: philipma1957 on September 11, 2015, 03:22:41 PM

Quote from: alh on September 11, 2015, 01:51:37 PM

It would seem to me you could lash together two S7's with a single controller if you were to lay the miners on their sides, so that the "Top Side" were facing each other. Kind of awkward to wire up, but it shouldn't take any "long cables" to accomplish.

It would be interesting to know if the S7 cooling actually requires that the blades be vertical to work OK. While it's obvious what the "expected" orientation is, does it still behave well if it's laid on it's side?

point them upwards top to top that allows for vertical and hot air raises.

stack them on a box fan which allows for more air to help fans. also if fans fail the box fan may save the day.

thats what i did, works great.

thx for sharing the info guys but i noticed they do run slower than individual controller

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I just hooked two units together via the rails and then unmounted both control boards and place a single bb board and data port board in between the two miners held in place with a little velcro. The original cables the S7 ships with are plenty long enough when set up this way...

[img=http://s27.postimg.org/z2bmhxs3z/IMG_0128.jpg]
[img=http://s27.postimg.org/3u31km2dr/IMG_0120.jpg]

Quote from: philipma1957 on September 11, 2015, 03:22:41 PM

Quote from: alh on September 11, 2015, 01:51:37 PM

It would seem to me you could lash together two S7's with a single controller if you were to lay the miners on their sides, so that the "Top Side" were facing each other. Kind of awkward to wire up, but it shouldn't take any "long cables" to accomplish.

It would be interesting to know if the S7 cooling actually requires that the blades be vertical to work OK. While it's obvious what the "expected" orientation is, does it still behave well if it's laid on it's side?

point them upwards top to top that allows for vertical and hot air raises.

stack them on a box fan which allows for more air to help fans. also if fans fail the box fan may save the day.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 07, 2015, 09:50:17 PM

My batch 2 is working like a true stud.
Freq 606
Errors 0.0001%

4910 gh

And boards are labeled 575.

My batch 2 is better then my batch 1.

I have found this gear wants hot psu's. By that 12.1 volts rather then 11.94
I have two evga 1600 psu's one is a plat and gives me 11.94 volts under a 1200 watt draw.

The other is a tit. Okay a titanium it is giving 12.1 volts to the batch 2.

I think j4b has a way to do 2000 watt psu with over volts.

Maybe the s-7 thrives on 12.1 to 12.4 volts

I think that is a correct assessment, everything we have seen Bitnain doing with PSU spec 12V-12.6V, board selection, Frequecy reduction and finally reduced chain length points at the S7 wanting more volts.

A bit of good news is that server PSU's can more easily have their voltage adjusted up than down, by using the sense feedback voltage, usually at least 13V can be achieved. A lot of info on the RC forums as they always want more Volts.

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Quote from: yslyung on November 06, 2015, 11:13:16 PM

just got my batch 3 s7, took me abt 20 mins or so to set everything up & to figure some other stuff out. running good for now.

fan set at 60%. fan 1 4080 rpm - fan 3 3840 rpm

chip freq set at 606

temps - 59-60-61

so far it has been running great.

compared to stock fans are around 4000-4200 rpm

it's a 600M sticker model v1.8

temps are 2 deg C cooler

with new 606 on the chips, 0 hw error hashrate is barely noticeable but a tad more. 600 on the chips (stock) 0.0001% hw error

1 thing i do notice that the hash rate does fluctuate quite abit regardless of chip freq settings. same on miner & poolside (antpool)

have 2 more batch 5 coming & hope that i can hook all 3 up but so far only 2 is reported successful. (darn should've ordered 1 more batch 5) so i can run 2 controllers - 4 miners - 6 blades each

gotta pm j4b to get the cables, psu and more pcie cables. i saw somewhere some guy power only 2 of 3 per board here in bct forum but i saw outside the forum , only powered 1 out of 3 pcie & it's working all week long. initially had some issues but when he moved the the pcie to the center instead of the sides & has been working flawlessly.

thx for the info filipma (name too long to type :p) ... let's keep each other updated.

My batch 2 is working like a true stud.
Freq 606
Errors 0.0001%

4910 gh

And boards are labeled 575.

My batch 2 is better then my batch 1.

I have found this gear wants hot psu's. By that 12.1 volts rather then 11.94
I have two evga 1600 psu's one is a plat and gives me 11.94 volts under a 1200 watt draw.

The other is a tit. Okay a titanium it is giving 12.1 volts to the batch 2.

I think j4b has a way to do 2000 watt psu with over volts.

Maybe the s-7 thrives on 12.1 to 12.4 volts

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just got my batch 3 s7, took me abt 20 mins or so to set everything up & to figure some other stuff out. running good for now.

fan set at 60%. fan 1 4080 rpm - fan 3 3840 rpm

chip freq set at 606

temps - 59-60-61

so far it has been running great.

compared to stock fans are around 4000-4200 rpm

it's a 600M sticker model v1.8

temps are 2 deg C cooler

with new 606 on the chips, 0 hw error hashrate is barely noticeable but a tad more. 600 on the chips (stock) 0.0001% hw error

1 thing i do notice that the hash rate does fluctuate quite abit regardless of chip freq settings. same on miner & poolside (antpool)

have 2 more batch 5 coming & hope that i can hook all 3 up but so far only 2 is reported successful. (darn should've ordered 1 more batch 5) so i can run 2 controllers - 4 miners - 6 blades each

gotta pm j4b to get the cables, psu and more pcie cables. i saw somewhere some guy power only 2 of 3 per board here in bct forum but i saw outside the forum , only powered 1 out of 3 pcie & it's working all week long. initially had some issues but when he moved the the pcie to the center instead of the sides & has been working flawlessly.

thx for the info filipma (name too long to type :p) ... let's keep each other updated.

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Quote from: Tupsu on November 01, 2015, 06:24:57 PM

One useful solution for S7 controller.

It works with S5+ software to control S5+ single cube / does not have control of the fan

It works with S5 software to control S5+ single cube / with fan control

60% = 3,840 rpm
50% = 3,360- 3,480 rpm (depends on the fan )

Working with ports 2, 3, 6 (left to right, viewed by the end of the network cable side )

Not sure how useful it would be but... has anyone tried an S5 controller with the now released S7 Firmware. I have loaded it and it runs, but do not have an S7 to test?

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One useful solution for S7 controller.

It works with S5+ software to control S5+ single cube / does not have control of the fan

It works with S5 software to control S5+ single cube / with fan control

60% = 3,840 rpm
50% = 3,360- 3,480 rpm (depends on the fan )

Working with ports 2, 3, 6 (left to right, viewed by the end of the network cable side )

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I never had 3 machines on hand. So I only know the batch 1 does 6 blades .

when you said new firmware only did 6 blades I assumed the old did the full 9 blades.

No one has posted an s-7 with more then six blades.

As far as I know six can be done. I would love to see a photo of 7, 8 or 9 working blades on 1 controller.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on October 31, 2015, 10:16:01 AM

Quote from: Tupsu on October 31, 2015, 08:42:02 AM

The new S7 software supports only 6 x S7 blades.

I'm disappointed.

so my batch 1 with stock firmware on the controller just becomes more valuable? as it can do 9 blades.

Will he still be able to connekt 9 blades?

Have you tried it ?

Port 5, 7, 9 does not work for me at all. Not even with six blade.

Quote from: philipma1957 on September 26, 2015, 01:07:37 PM

they came and they are great. i will write a trust later today.

here is a shot of my controller loaded for 6 boards. so:

1)full
2) full
3) full
4)full
5) blank
6)full
7) blank
8 )full
9) blank

2 custom long with 4 stock short this allows for 1 cat 5 not 2 and 1 unused controller

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That is strange, I don't see the reasoning for that change. My cables from J4bberwock will be here (Canada) on Monday, and my order from the manufacturer is taking longer than expected and will be another ~2 weeks in case anyone wants small amounts in North America. I will update here and in my PSU thread when they arrive.

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Quote from: Tupsu on October 31, 2015, 08:42:02 AM

The new S7 software supports only 6 x S7 blades.

I'm disappointed.

so my batch 1 with stock firmware on the controller just becomes more valuable? as it can do 9 blades.

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The new S7 software supports only 6 x S7 blades.

I'm disappointed.

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I will shoot photos tomorrow,

but here is a second screen shot. compares freq 568 fans 55% to freq 581 fans 60%

I am still a bit heat challenged As it got past 70f today and has not dropped much.

freq = 581
fans = 60%
hash =9364
errors = 0.0018%

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Quote from: hawkfish007 on October 29, 2015, 01:14:45 PM

Quote from: RichBC on October 29, 2015, 12:43:50 PM

Quote from: hawkfish007 on October 29, 2015, 10:33:39 AM

When I connect my early B1 S7 hash board (with different housing than the later S7s) to B3 controller, the controller won't recognize the hash board and shows ------- ------- ------. But the hash board runs by itself with it's own controller. Any suggestions?

Just going back to the original question. Have you tried a B3 Hash Board on the B1 controller?

Rich

No, I haven't. My other B1 and B3s are hashing perfectly so I didn't bother to make any changes. This one is with only one hashing board so I tried to add it to one of the others while I wait for replacement instruction from BM.

Ok that's fine, don't go playing with Miners that are working and making Money.

It was just out of interest / to establish what works with what & why?

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Quote from: RichBC on October 29, 2015, 12:43:50 PM

Quote from: hawkfish007 on October 29, 2015, 10:33:39 AM

When I connect my early B1 S7 hash board (with different housing than the later S7s) to B3 controller, the controller won't recognize the hash board and shows ------- ------- ------. But the hash board runs by itself with it's own controller. Any suggestions?

Just going back to the original question. Have you tried a B3 Hash Board on the B1 controller?

Rich

No, I haven't. My other B1 and B3s are hashing perfectly so I didn't bother to make any changes. This one is with only one hashing board so I tried to add it to one of the others while I wait for replacement instruction from BM.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on October 29, 2015, 12:22:27 PM

my batch 1 controller is running my batch 1 and my batch 2 s-7. my batch 2 boards are marked 575.

they are running on 240 volt using 9.9amps = 2376 watts and getting 4610gh

fans are 55% speeds are 3720 to 3960 rpm

errors are 0.0001%

it is 68f in New Jersey and I have them running a little under clocked on purpose due to the heat

I have 2 B1s and 1 B3, this particular B1 is different than other two hashboard rev and connector orientation wise. My other B1 is identical to my B3. Is your B1 similar to mine (rev V1.3)?

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Quote from: hawkfish007 on October 29, 2015, 10:33:39 AM

When I connect my early B1 S7 hash board (with different housing than the later S7s) to B3 controller, the controller won't recognize the hash board and shows ------- ------- ------. But the hash board runs by itself with it's own controller. Any suggestions?

Just going back to the original question. Have you tried a B3 Hash Board on the B1 controller?

Rich

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my batch 1 controller is running my batch 1 and my batch 2 s-7. my batch 2 boards are marked 575.

they are running on 240 volt using 9.9amps = 2376 watts and getting 4610gh

fans are 55% speeds are 3720 to 3960 rpm

errors are 0.0001%

it is 68f in New Jersey and I have them running a little under clocked on purpose due to the heat

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Quote from: Tupsu on October 29, 2015, 11:15:35 AM

Quote from: hawkfish007 on October 29, 2015, 10:49:44 AM

So use space #1-4 for 4 boards, or leave a blank one in between.

Yes, board rev numbers are different, old one S7_SPOWER HashBoard_54_V1.3, and the new one S7_SPOWER HashBoard 54 V1.6

Edit: here is the pic of two boards, they are physically different, new one protrude at least 2" higher from the housing , old one is almost flushed.

Boards are the same size , housing profile is difrent.

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"New" S5+/old S7 profile and "New" S7

Board dimensions might be the same, I haven't opened B3 S7 to compare, opened only early B1 because of 2 defective boards and of course with permission from BM. Here is a pic of early B1 and B3 S7s.

Controller board connector orientation is also different (where do I find rev #?)

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