Topic: Satoshi Roundtable Retreat - 70 top Techies & CEOs - What should be covered? (Read 9206 times)
March 04, 2016, 05:44:31 PM
Brian Armstrong (Coinbase) shares his thoughts on SR (it's more about blocksize tho).
https://medium.com/@barmstrong/what-happened-at-the-satoshi-roundtable-6c11a10d8cdf#.yz72x9ehm
March 03, 2016, 04:31:01 PM
Satoshi Roundtable 2016, Full Transcript: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/48gy96/satoshi_roundtable_2016_full_transcript/
<3xploit = Marshall Long, for those unaware>
Consensus that we all can all agree on:
Bruce Fenton only invited his friends to the roundtable (video proof available)
Marshall Long was invited and attended.
Marshall Long is a scam artist to the nth degree.
Bruce Fenton claims to not be aware of Marshall's scammy background. (Bruce is more than welcome to refute this claim, and that he is well aware, but...)
The Reddit thread (above) is about releasing some transcript.
Bruce Fenton weighs in that it shouldn't be released, confirming its existence.
Marshall Long comes along and claims there's no transcript.
Marshall's proven wrong, confirming that he's a fuckin' idiot as well as a scammer.
Marshall Long dons his tin foil hat (perhaps the cleanest wearing apparel he owns).
<3xploit = Marshall Long, for those unaware>
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bruce_fenton
Privacy of attendees will be honored
3xploit
There is not a transcript. Wtf u on about
Bitcoin_Error_Log
I know for a fact there is.
3xploit
Proof? I was there. And nobody was recording me that i know of.
Bitcoin_Error_Log
Someone was audio-feeding from to Bryan Bishop, who typed everything.
3xploit
Lol. Foil hat
Privacy of attendees will be honored
3xploit
There is not a transcript. Wtf u on about
Bitcoin_Error_Log
I know for a fact there is.
3xploit
Proof? I was there. And nobody was recording me that i know of.
Bitcoin_Error_Log
Someone was audio-feeding from to Bryan Bishop, who typed everything.
3xploit
Lol. Foil hat
Consensus that we all can all agree on:
Bruce Fenton only invited his friends to the roundtable (video proof available)
Marshall Long was invited and attended.
Marshall Long is a scam artist to the nth degree.
Bruce Fenton claims to not be aware of Marshall's scammy background. (Bruce is more than welcome to refute this claim, and that he is well aware, but...)
The Reddit thread (above) is about releasing some transcript.
Bruce Fenton weighs in that it shouldn't be released, confirming its existence.
Marshall Long comes along and claims there's no transcript.
Marshall's proven wrong, confirming that he's a fuckin' idiot as well as a scammer.
Marshall Long dons his tin foil hat (perhaps the cleanest wearing apparel he owns).
March 02, 2016, 01:20:51 AM
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bitcoin is for the 100%, and most of them will use it for commerce. believe what you want.
bitcoin is for the 100%, and most of them will use it for commerce. believe what you want.
What does that even mean? WTF is "commerce"?
Is sticking BTC in a paper wallet and sitting on it like a hen on an egg "commerce"? This forum has one commerce section -- /securities/ -- dead as a doornail due to captains of industry running away with intrepid investors' coin, leaving the latter crying, dicks in hands.
P.S. Apologies, there is the /investment-based games/ section, where young Bitcoin entrepreneurs bilk coin from their equally-enterprising, albeit slightly dummer, marks.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=78.0
"Today's specials are Havelock, Neo & Bee, and ASICMINER. I suggest a nice Chianti to complement any of the fine choices. The chips and fava bean dip are complementary."
March 01, 2016, 11:42:29 AM
...
bitcoin is for the 100%, and most of them will use it for commerce. believe what you want.
bitcoin is for the 100%, and most of them will use it for commerce. believe what you want.
What does that even mean? WTF is "commerce"?
Is sticking BTC in a paper wallet and sitting on it like a hen on an egg "commerce"? This forum has one commerce section -- /securities/ -- dead as a doornail due to captains of industry running away with intrepid investors' coin, leaving the latter crying, dicks in hands.
oh wtf I agree with this govy shill now?
such a brainfucker!
March 01, 2016, 11:38:44 AM
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bitcoin is for the 100%, and most of them will use it for commerce. believe what you want.
bitcoin is for the 100%, and most of them will use it for commerce. believe what you want.
What does that even mean? WTF is "commerce"?
Is sticking BTC in a paper wallet and sitting on it like a hen on an egg "commerce"? This forum has one commerce section -- /securities/ -- dead as a doornail due to captains of industry running away with intrepid investors' coin, leaving the latter crying, dicks in hands.
P.S. Apologies, there is the /investment-based games/ section, where young Bitcoin entrepreneurs bilk coin from their equally-enterprising, albeit slightly dummer, marks.
March 01, 2016, 11:22:19 AM
q.a.
we're ideologically polar opposites. I'm pro business and i believe the majority of people using bitcoin are - and will be - too. you're anti-business. no need to give it a fancy name like anti-business-as-usual when you mean anti-business.
we won't ever agree on this - coming from different worlds, so lets agree to disagree and move on.
Whatever you say. I am the 99%, you are the 1%. we're ideologically polar opposites. I'm pro business and i believe the majority of people using bitcoin are - and will be - too. you're anti-business. no need to give it a fancy name like anti-business-as-usual when you mean anti-business.
we won't ever agree on this - coming from different worlds, so lets agree to disagree and move on.
bitcoin is for the 100%, and most of them will use it for commerce. believe what you want.
March 01, 2016, 10:50:47 AM
q.a.
we're ideologically polar opposites. I'm pro business and i believe the majority of people using bitcoin are - and will be - too. you're anti-business. no need to give it a fancy name like anti-business-as-usual when you mean anti-business.
we won't ever agree on this - coming from different worlds, so lets agree to disagree and move on.
we're ideologically polar opposites. I'm pro business and i believe the majority of people using bitcoin are - and will be - too. you're anti-business. no need to give it a fancy name like anti-business-as-usual when you mean anti-business.
we won't ever agree on this - coming from different worlds, so lets agree to disagree and move on.
Whatever you say. I am the 99%, you are the 1%.
Occupy Bitcoin
March 01, 2016, 10:41:11 AM
q.a.
we're ideologically polar opposites. I'm pro business and i believe the majority of people using bitcoin are - and will be - too. you're anti-business.
we're ideologically polar opposites. I'm pro business and i believe the majority of people using bitcoin are - and will be - too. you're anti-business.
Being pro-freedom does not necessarily mean anti-business.
Lots of businesses are growing up around bitcoin and remaining profitable - without having to meet in closed back door rooms to privately decide the future of bitcoin without any input from the community.
Bitcoin was developed to be a peer to peer electronic currency, and a viable alternative to the traditional banking systems, CC processors, etc. Turning bitcoin into one of these is to completely distort it's original intentions.
If there's anything I've learned it's that Greed ruins everything. BTC was not created with unrestrained human greed in mind, thank you very much.
March 01, 2016, 10:32:46 AM
I think the main message from the satoshi roundtable was "buy Ethereum quickly"
and then dump even faster
and buy Bitcoin with profits
March 01, 2016, 10:01:29 AM
I think the main message from the satoshi roundtable was "buy Ethereum quickly"
March 01, 2016, 08:12:08 AM
q.a.
we're ideologically polar opposites. I'm pro business and i believe the majority of people using bitcoin are - and will be - too. you're anti-business. no need to give it a fancy name like anti-business-as-usual when you mean anti-business.
we won't ever agree on this - coming from different worlds, so lets agree to disagree and move on.
we're ideologically polar opposites. I'm pro business and i believe the majority of people using bitcoin are - and will be - too. you're anti-business. no need to give it a fancy name like anti-business-as-usual when you mean anti-business.
we won't ever agree on this - coming from different worlds, so lets agree to disagree and move on.
See? we do have a consensus.
March 01, 2016, 05:22:31 AM
q.a.
we're ideologically polar opposites. I'm pro business and i believe the majority of people using bitcoin are - and will be - too. you're anti-business. no need to give it a fancy name like anti-business-as-usual when you mean anti-business.
we won't ever agree on this - coming from different worlds, so lets agree to disagree and move on.
we're ideologically polar opposites. I'm pro business and i believe the majority of people using bitcoin are - and will be - too. you're anti-business. no need to give it a fancy name like anti-business-as-usual when you mean anti-business.
we won't ever agree on this - coming from different worlds, so lets agree to disagree and move on.
March 01, 2016, 03:45:41 AM
Were they all sequestered in rooms discussing what's best for Bitcoin the bank emancipator or what's best for the individual business interests that attended?
I have attended many conferences because they were held in my region. The disappointing aspect of every single one was the lack of interest in the concept of relieving people from the need for a trusted third party. In fact, many of the businessmen in attendance were counting on becoming the necessary link between the user and their money. The whole concept of bastardizing the basic tenet of Bitcoin is so repulsive it makes me want to abandon bitcoin altogether.
I have attended many conferences because they were held in my region. The disappointing aspect of every single one was the lack of interest in the concept of relieving people from the need for a trusted third party. In fact, many of the businessmen in attendance were counting on becoming the necessary link between the user and their money. The whole concept of bastardizing the basic tenet of Bitcoin is so repulsive it makes me want to abandon bitcoin altogether.
QuestionAuthority.
honestly, i have no clue what you're on about.
that has nothing to do with any bitcoin conference or meet up. and nothing to do with the roundtable either.
the people who attend these types of events do so because they want to see bitcoin succeed and feel that meeting other like minded people can help them do that and smooth the rough edges to help make it happen. decentralisation is the key word. it was mentioned so often that you almost wish they'd find another word. very few people in attendance even mentioned their own businesses or what they do in the bitcoin space. almost all of the conversations are about how to take bitcoin forward - in a general way - so that more people will have the ability to use it, in new and exciting ways. not only the unbanked.. but also the banked. fully inclusive. not even excluding the bankers. everyone should have access to it.
you make it sound like you dont want money to be used for its primary purpose. you sound anti business. money allows people to buy and sell goods and services. you sound like youre against commerce. anyone who can help onboard more people into bitcoin is a good thing. do you think most of the world is going to start using it because its there? most will need encouragement via goods and services that are easier and cheaper to use than what they use at present. that requires innovation of new bitcoin businesses for us to on-board the next few million bitcoin users. and will need some established and successful businesses to be able to on-board the next billion!
if that sickens you, i think you should take up a hobby that doesn't involve 'digital money' because money is mainly used for commerce/business. get used to it, or find something else to do. you cant be pro bitcoin and anti business. makes no sense.
What a load of crap. I can't tell if you're bullshitting me or yourself. They couldn't really give a shit about Bitcoin. Hell, I doubt half of them have even read the whitepaper. The people I see in videos and meet in person believe in success - they're own success. That success has nothing to do with slowly developing a working system and delivering it freely to all takers. VC money doesn't chase humanitarian goals or work toward unseating the current corrupt system. VC money embraces Wall Street and crawls in bed with bankers. The major players in Bitcoin currently look as if all they care about is creating a system that can generate profits as quickly as possible.
Money for you is only about commerce and profit, just as it is for Wall Street. Yes, I am anti-business-as-usual. I don't want a new system if it empowers and enriches the few. I don't agree with a system that needs closed door collusion to make decisions. Try taking some of the wealth of the investors involved and create a no fee, free to use electronic exchange that allows individuals worldwide to free themselves from banks instead of, as you say, including bankers. You sound as if you simply expect Bitcoin to be nothing more than a trendy, edgy, cool alternative to PayPal minus the fraud protection for consumers.
For those who haven't read the white paper, I've twitted it in 256 tweets including the images: https://twitter.com/firstwhitepaper, ergo I've probably read it more times than anybody else on the planet. In fact, I probable could recite the entire thing, e.g., "I had a dream..." Oops, wrong body of work which I also tweeted: https://twitter.com/MLKsIHaveADream (both body of works inspired by my https://twitter.com/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2).
March 01, 2016, 02:56:54 AM
Were they all sequestered in rooms discussing what's best for Bitcoin the bank emancipator or what's best for the individual business interests that attended?
I have attended many conferences because they were held in my region. The disappointing aspect of every single one was the lack of interest in the concept of relieving people from the need for a trusted third party. In fact, many of the businessmen in attendance were counting on becoming the necessary link between the user and their money. The whole concept of bastardizing the basic tenet of Bitcoin is so repulsive it makes me want to abandon bitcoin altogether.
I have attended many conferences because they were held in my region. The disappointing aspect of every single one was the lack of interest in the concept of relieving people from the need for a trusted third party. In fact, many of the businessmen in attendance were counting on becoming the necessary link between the user and their money. The whole concept of bastardizing the basic tenet of Bitcoin is so repulsive it makes me want to abandon bitcoin altogether.
QuestionAuthority.
honestly, i have no clue what you're on about.
that has nothing to do with any bitcoin conference or meet up. and nothing to do with the roundtable either.
the people who attend these types of events do so because they want to see bitcoin succeed and feel that meeting other like minded people can help them do that and smooth the rough edges to help make it happen. decentralisation is the key word. it was mentioned so often that you almost wish they'd find another word. very few people in attendance even mentioned their own businesses or what they do in the bitcoin space. almost all of the conversations are about how to take bitcoin forward - in a general way - so that more people will have the ability to use it, in new and exciting ways. not only the unbanked.. but also the banked. fully inclusive. not even excluding the bankers. everyone should have access to it.
you make it sound like you dont want money to be used for its primary purpose. you sound anti business. money allows people to buy and sell goods and services. you sound like youre against commerce. anyone who can help onboard more people into bitcoin is a good thing. do you think most of the world is going to start using it because its there? most will need encouragement via goods and services that are easier and cheaper to use than what they use at present. that requires innovation of new bitcoin businesses for us to on-board the next few million bitcoin users. and will need some established and successful businesses to be able to on-board the next billion!
if that sickens you, i think you should take up a hobby that doesn't involve 'digital money' because money is mainly used for commerce/business. get used to it, or find something else to do. you cant be pro bitcoin and anti business. makes no sense.
What a load of crap. I can't tell if you're bullshitting me or yourself. They couldn't really give a shit about Bitcoin. Hell, I doubt half of them have even read the whitepaper. The people I see in videos and meet in person believe in success - they're own success. That success has nothing to do with slowly developing a working system and delivering it freely to all takers. VC money doesn't chase humanitarian goals or work toward unseating the current corrupt system. VC money embraces Wall Street and crawls in bed with bankers. The major players in Bitcoin currently look as if all they care about is creating a system that can generate profits as quickly as possible.
Money for you is only about commerce and profit, just as it is for Wall Street. Yes, I am anti-business-as-usual. I don't want a new system if it empowers and enriches the few. I don't agree with a system that needs closed door collusion to make decisions. Try taking some of the wealth of the investors involved and create a no fee, free to use electronic exchange that allows individuals worldwide to free themselves from banks instead of, as you say, including bankers. You sound as if you simply expect Bitcoin to be nothing more than a trendy, edgy, cool alternative to PayPal minus the fraud protection for consumers.
March 01, 2016, 02:16:15 AM
here goes bruce's slides from that friend-only-private-conversation-roundtable:
March 01, 2016, 01:22:33 AM
The BATH TOBB Consensus
Were Leroy Fodor, Marshall Long, John Fitzpatrick and Craig Wright locked in some bathroom instructed to not come out till they penned something substantial?
February 29, 2016, 10:29:34 PM
^Of course I did. That's because you use words like "onboard" unironically.
"Oh, how petty!" some might pshaw. And boy oh boy, how wrong they'd be... Boy howdy!
"Oh, how petty!" some might pshaw. And boy oh boy, how wrong they'd be... Boy howdy!
February 29, 2016, 10:02:52 PM
... anyone who can help onboard more people into bitcoin ...
>onboard>onboard
>onboard
you lost me with your my little pony cartoon
February 29, 2016, 09:59:04 PM
... anyone who can help onboard more people into bitcoin ...
>onboard>onboard
>onboard
February 29, 2016, 09:48:22 PM
I can't wait for Bruce to return and tell us what of his 8 points he took from this thread. Were we helpful? How helpful? Very helpful?
How much did this lovely lady cost?
How much did this lovely lady cost?
Maybe I am a little resentful because he did not even acknowledge in this thread my very "insightful" recommended clarifications?
I have a friend who'd like to know why Bruce spent so much energy trying to bounce those talking heads with the web cam while Marshal Long was eating octopus with some retarded lady with a white board. Did you see that?
didn't hear or see any of that. if it was late on saturday night i was playing poker (and winning... using my patented secret weapon. i was the only sober one at the card table ;-)
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