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Topic: Satoshicarnival - Please Withdraw Funds - Auction to sell the site Starting Soon - page 4. (Read 17789 times)

sr. member
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Investing in this site is a joke.

I invested a day or 2 before the attack and the bankroll was fairly small.

debankroll   -0.01676756   0   0.00000000   Tue 08 Jul 2014 10:53:21 PM UTC
weekly commision   0.00000000   -0.00001158   0.01685475   Mon 07 Jul 2014 12:00:01 AM UTC
weekly commision   0.00000000   0   0.01674846   Mon 30 Jun 2014 12:00:01 AM UTC
Attack - Money you lost: 0.00353189
bankroll   0.02000000   0   0.02000000   Thu 26 Jun 2014 04:50:36 PM UTC


The best part is they are starting reimbursments

Money you lost: 0.00353189
Money repaid:    0.00003100

That is going to take a lifetime to get back allthough a small ammount I feel bad for the guys with 1BTC+ in this.

there are never more than 9 players online at a time and your lucky to see a bet over 0.00002500.

The majority of players are just using the faucet to store bets while betting litteraly 2 cents at a time.

The majority of bets are this- 0.00000010 just watch the size of bets for 10 minutes 80% of bets are less than 1/10th of a cent.
   
For the last 2 weeks I havent gone up 0.0001.
   
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
A reminder to all, please only utilize coins that you can afford to lose as a member of our site, either as a bankroller or player.

While we will always do our best to be fair and secure, there are no certainties in this realm and gambling is risky.  We have designed a lot of transparency to help assure ourselves and our members of that fairness.

The ultimate goal is to offer cool and fun games.  Our bankroll is still open to bankrollers, but the total wagered at the moment is quite low relative to the current houseroll level.  We will be increasing our efforts to attract more players to try our very enjoyable first game, which will get a cool modification very soon. Smiley

Players tired of traditional dice games will find us that more much refreshing, and are invited to join our growing and friendly community.  In time, our hope is that there will be many exciting games to play.

All bitcoin businesses are pioneers, and bitcoin players are gambling pioneers.  We are all helping to move things forward while having fun. 
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250

if someone finds an exploit in the website it's their duty to report it and not to exploit it.

If you find an exploit in your banks security and hack their servers and steal a million from the bank, do you think the bank will say 'congratulations on on your million dollars' or do you think they will send the FBI and CIA and get you in jail?

If you win big by chance, than of course you can keep it, but the last time it was due to an exploit and they were intentionally attacking the website. Which is basically theft.

Or maybe the owners should pay for a pen-test prior for a real developer to assess their site and not just do a 2 week test to allow someone else pen-test the site prior to actually getting funds on it.  But the owner told he felt confident in his and his partner skills when I warned him of possible attacks.

Every site can get hacked, and a lot has, its how you deal with it.  Now Satoshicarnival has a payback plan for investors and while that is great if I was an investor I would be demanding that the ownership pays back my investment out of their own pockets now, and if they want to increase commissions so they could payback them selves I would be okay with it.


Indeed, any site can be attacked, big to small, from government run defense laboratories controlling the most dangerous of materials, to small teams progressing with their bitcoin casino project. 

We have real developers and will continue to do our best, thanks for your concern Smiley
sr. member
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To add to zimmah's astute post.

We have an onus to players to ensure their legitimate winnings are promptly paid and that our engine operates as outlined, and to uphold our T&C.

We have an onus to bankrollers to ensure their funds are safe, and any illegitimate winnings which violate our T&C are barred from leaving our casino.  In the case the perpetrator manages to do just that, we have a responsibility to reimburse the bankrollers.

We do not have any responsibility to protect perpetrators that seek to violate our T&C.  In fact, our duty is to thwart them from doing just that by any means possible.  Fortunately for our honest members, we have many terrific ways of doing just that.

To clarify further about the trailing stop loss, this is not meant to cap legitimate winnings.  It just gives us a brief opportunity to ensure all play is indeed fair.  At which point we will not hesitate to re-start the betting and withdrawals for further fair play.  We generate revenue on every single bet that takes place on average.  Sometimes members run hot and can win big fairly, that is very welcome and we would be happy to process any such withdrawals promptly.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
Reimbursements going out tomorrow ET, all affected bankrollers please check your WALLET for updates.

In light of the unfortunate Prcdice situation would like to remind everyone of a couple important things:

  • We now use HMAC sha-512, our provably fair as well as hashing are extremely sound
  • We now employ an automatic trailing stop loss which functions by having every single bet acknowledge the absolute house profit value.  Any time that value is x greater than the current house profit value, the betting and withdrawals automatically shut off.  x currently = 2btc
  • We now have the ability to manually stop betting and withdrawals for individual accounts as well as to suspend accounts inc IPs

We are serious about trying to be the fairest and most secure bitcoin gambling outlet.  Only by achieving that to a satisfactory level can we focus our efforts on releasing truly creative and enjoyable games.
So basically if someone finds an error in your system OR actually beats the odds and wins big - you will 100% stop that person from actually getting what they deserved? Oh great.

if someone finds an exploit in the website it's their duty to report it and not to exploit it.

If you find an exploit in your banks security and hack their servers and steal a million from the bank, do you think the bank will say 'congratulations on on your million dollars' or do you think they will send the FBI and CIA and get you in jail?

If you win big by chance, than of course you can keep it, but the last time it was due to an exploit and they were intentionally attacking the website. Which is basically theft.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Reimbursements going out tomorrow ET, all affected bankrollers please check your WALLET for updates.

In light of the unfortunate Prcdice situation would like to remind everyone of a couple important things:

  • We now use HMAC sha-512, our provably fair as well as hashing are extremely sound
  • We now employ an automatic trailing stop loss which functions by having every single bet acknowledge the absolute house profit value.  Any time that value is x greater than the current house profit value, the betting and withdrawals automatically shut off.  x currently = 2btc
  • We now have the ability to manually stop betting and withdrawals for individual accounts as well as to suspend accounts inc IPs

We are serious about trying to be the fairest and most secure bitcoin gambling outlet.  Only by achieving that to a satisfactory level can we focus our efforts on releasing truly creative and enjoyable games.
So basically if someone finds an error in your system OR actually beats the odds and wins big - you will 100% stop that person from actually getting what they deserved? Oh great.

No, that wasn't said or implied.  I suppose inherent biases can influence any material if you wish to interpret what was written negatively.

What was written,  is that we have precautions in place to protect all our members, both players and bankrollers, and ourselves.

If you don't have experience with online gaming operators, or any gaming operators for that matter including brick & mortar, these are protections that some operators use nefariously, those operators don't end up lasting long or succeeding beyond a certain point.  We intend to last long and succeed.

In time, as situations arise that threaten individual members, they will appreciate our safeguards.  Also, the trailing stop loss will be increased as we progress, of course.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
Acc bought - used solely for signature testing
Reimbursements going out tomorrow ET, all affected bankrollers please check your WALLET for updates.

In light of the unfortunate Prcdice situation would like to remind everyone of a couple important things:

  • We now use HMAC sha-512, our provably fair as well as hashing are extremely sound
  • We now employ an automatic trailing stop loss which functions by having every single bet acknowledge the absolute house profit value.  Any time that value is x greater than the current house profit value, the betting and withdrawals automatically shut off.  x currently = 2btc
  • We now have the ability to manually stop betting and withdrawals for individual accounts as well as to suspend accounts inc IPs

We are serious about trying to be the fairest and most secure bitcoin gambling outlet.  Only by achieving that to a satisfactory level can we focus our efforts on releasing truly creative and enjoyable games.
So basically if someone finds an error in your system OR actually beats the odds and wins big - you will 100% stop that person from actually getting what they deserved? Oh great.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Reimbursements going out tomorrow ET, all affected bankrollers please check your WALLET for updates.

In light of the unfortunate Prcdice situation would like to remind everyone of a couple important things:

  • We now use HMAC sha-512, our provably fair as well as hashing are extremely sound
  • We now employ an automatic trailing stop loss which functions by having every single bet acknowledge the absolute house profit value.  Any time that value is x greater than the current house profit value, the betting and withdrawals automatically shut off.  x currently = 2btc
  • We now have the ability to manually stop betting and withdrawals for individual accounts as well as to suspend accounts inc IPs

We are serious about trying to be the fairest and most secure bitcoin gambling outlet.  Only by achieving that to a satisfactory level can we focus our efforts on releasing truly creative and enjoyable games.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Thanks zimmah for posting that.  The information in the window has been updated to better reflect the situation.  First reimbursement payment to go out Monday.

We are 1 week away from releasing the custom slider in To-the-Moon before development of the next game progresses.

Houseroll is now at BTC75 and the maxbets growing. 

Happy planet hunting Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
Have the  reimbursement payments gone out yet?

Not yet, had a delay on the front-end for the reimbursement table so will send out the first payment after the commission this sunday/monday and it will be reflected in your WALLET window.  Thanks for your patience while we sort that whole situation out.

No worries just wanted to make sure I didn't miss it.

I thought the same, nothing showed up on my wallet either, but at least i know it's being worked on.

Expect more info to show in your WALLET menu soon, as well as very important Lag modifications Smiley

Wiebe will be making a more detailed post later. 

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Bankroll History



On 06/27/2014, SatoshiCarnival was attacked. You are one of the bankrollers who unfortunately lost some money during this attack. (Official Statement)
The house repays these losses over time.

Money you lost:  0.05343879

Money repaid:  0.00000000

Nice, that seems to be about right.

Thank you.
sr. member
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thats very nice to hear,gonna test if my browser feels better about it now  Grin
W-M
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
In Crypto we Trust.
Good news! I've been sick for a few days, but I finally felt better and resumed my work on SatoshiCarnival.


Something amazing happened...
With Cristian and me finishing Long-Polling for the bet results, and changing the way the game is rendered, the site has received an enormous speed boost!
The site finally is as fluid as we intended it to be, and should work fine on all computers now, even older ones.


I urge anyone who was complaining about lag to try out the site again. You should not have any issues at all.


On a side note: Investors who were hit by the malicious attack on 7-3-2014, will now see detailed information about how much they lost and how much we still need to repay.



It's an exciting time on SatoshiCarnival. Please come and check us out.

~W-M
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Have the  reimbursement payments gone out yet?

Not yet, had a delay on the front-end for the reimbursement table so will send out the first payment after the commission this sunday/monday and it will be reflected in your WALLET window.  Thanks for your patience while we sort that whole situation out.

No worries just wanted to make sure I didn't miss it.

I thought the same, nothing showed up on my wallet either, but at least i know it's being worked on.

Expect more info to show in your WALLET menu soon, as well as very important Lag modifications Smiley

Wiebe will be making a more detailed post later. 
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
Have the  reimbursement payments gone out yet?

Not yet, had a delay on the front-end for the reimbursement table so will send out the first payment after the commission this sunday/monday and it will be reflected in your WALLET window.  Thanks for your patience while we sort that whole situation out.

No worries just wanted to make sure I didn't miss it.

I thought the same, nothing showed up on my wallet either, but at least i know it's being worked on.
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 257
Have the  reimbursement payments gone out yet?

Not yet, had a delay on the front-end for the reimbursement table so will send out the first payment after the commission this sunday/monday and it will be reflected in your WALLET window.  Thanks for your patience while we sort that whole situation out.

No worries just wanted to make sure I didn't miss it.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Have the  reimbursement payments gone out yet?

Not yet, had a delay on the front-end for the reimbursement table so will send out the first payment after the commission this sunday/monday and it will be reflected in your WALLET window.  Thanks for your patience while we sort that whole situation out.
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 257
Have the  reimbursement payments gone out yet?
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
Looking forward to it.

I wonder how it will work, but I guess you have that all planned out.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
The houseroll got a big boost last night and can handle reasonable-size maxbets now.

We are focusing our efforts on attracting you players.  Here are some upcoming features that will ensure your experiences here are much, much better then competitors:

Players / Visitors

  • Upcoming bet slider option to set your own odds - if you want to bet BTC10 on a 95% chance of winning, you will be able to
  • The variable house edge enjoyed currently will still be in effect in the bet slider option as well!  This means you will be able to bet the above with a much smaller house edge then the competition, we think that's very cool and important for you
  • Ease of access - visitors will have a name auto-generated for them so they don't have to register to start trying out the site
  • Cool faucet lottery modifications and other promos

Marketing

  • As the modifications above progress, we will be marketing more heavily, through social networking and ad-space on websites
  • Affiliates can discuss special rates with us for > the normal 1% losses as revenue

All of the above will be completed as soon as the lag issues are fixed, Christian and Wiebe are working to solve those by instituting long-polling to the bet data and possibly animation adjustments.

The community is growing and we are becoming more robust by the day.  

We really believe this game alone is and will be the best dice game out there, enjoyable and fast, and with a smaller house edge then anywhere else.  The games to come after will be even more interesting.  

Drop by the chat and give us your thoughts, we'd love to hear from any and all players.

Happy planet hunting Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
Quick Update and What's to come

First reimbursements payment going out soon, relevant bankrollers will see this reflected in their WALLET window by then.

We are fixing the lag issues either today or tomorrow.

Afterwards, we will be adding another element to this game, the ability to set your own chance of winning with a fun new feature.

Thanks for your support, many betting now and everything operating even better then before.  

Happy planet hunting Smiley

All great news once again, thanks.

You guys rock
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