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Topic: Satoshicarnival - Please Withdraw Funds - Auction to sell the site Starting Soon - page 7. (Read 17809 times)

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Okay,

we will not be re-launching the site for play today.  We want to test the new hashing further and implement other automatic protections against suspicious house losses and withdrawals before allowing play again.

I will process withdrawals now to whomever would like them however.  What I need is for you to PM me here on bitcointalk and provide the following info on your Satoshicarnival account:

account name
deposit address
ebtc address
a withdrawal address if different then your ebtc address
the amount you would like to withdraw

If you cannot provide all of this information, you will have to wait until we are back online tomorrow to initiative your withdrawal.

Thank you



Sending you a PM now Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 400
Merit: 250
meh and i wanted to make some M82 bets  Roll Eyes

do ur thing so its saver,its worth the time waiting
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
By the way, I just wanted to let you know it's not possible for me to log in from ipad because of I can not paste the signed message from 2FA in the box. When I try to click on the box the keyboard from my ipad will block the view of the box and I am unable to click it.



do you mean right now?  you should not be able to login atm from anywhere.

you are describing an ipad issue in general however that will be relevant again when we are back online.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Okay,

we will not be re-launching the site for play today.  We want to test the new hashing further and implement other automatic protections against suspicious house losses and withdrawals before allowing play again.

I will process withdrawals now to whomever would like them however.  What I need is for you to PM me here on bitcointalk and provide the following info on your Satoshicarnival account:

account name
deposit address
ebtc address
a withdrawal address if different then your ebtc address
the amount you would like to withdraw

If you cannot provide all of this information, you will have to wait until we are back online tomorrow to initiative your withdrawal.

Thank you

sr. member
Activity: 400
Merit: 250
unfortunatly i did leave on autobet the whole night,so maybe im the player B zimmah reffered to Sad
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
By the way, I just wanted to let you know it's not possible for me to log in from ipad because of I can not paste the signed message from 2FA in the box. When I try to click on the box the keyboard from my ipad will block the view of the box and I am unable to click it.

member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
and i was thinking this morning before i went to work "who the fuck was that lucky and won > 5 BTC"

Same here.. I thought, "there is no way someone won that much playing honest in just a few hours(based on history and max bet levels)" and unfortunately we were right.

I hope the site is back up soon  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 400
Merit: 250
and i was thinking this morning before i went to work "who the fuck was that lucky and won > 5 BTC"
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
we will get through this together, the Community ++ is definitely no lie.

sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Yes, that would explain why someone would make 9 small bets and then suddenly a very large bet and win.

I have seen that happen a lot too.

I will still support you with my investments and other kinds of support.

You are in my opinion the #1 gambling site and you are very professional.

I am glad i have found you guys, I am sorry for your loss, but I'm sure you will make it back reasonably quickly.

I'm glad that this person was stupid enough to make it noticeable for you so quickly. Just think if they had not been so greedy and let in drag on over time very slowly or until the house roll was much larger. It could have been much much worse. I'm sorry for your loss here don't get me wrong.. I'm just trying to look at the positive things here.

even if they continued slowly, in a couple of days i would have noticed and found out what the problem was. I was already subconsciously aware of it.

I'm glad you were staying on top of things here. You're one of the originals, like myself and it's nice to see other members paying attention to these things besides the mods/owners.

Indeed, you guys/girls make our lives easier in many ways and motivate us to keep pushing forward to bring enjoyment to players and profitability to bankrollers.

So thank you for that.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Yes, that would explain why someone would make 9 small bets and then suddenly a very large bet and win.

I have seen that happen a lot too.

I will still support you with my investments and other kinds of support.

You are in my opinion the #1 gambling site and you are very professional.

I am glad i have found you guys, I am sorry for your loss, but I'm sure you will make it back reasonably quickly.

I'm glad that this person was stupid enough to make it noticeable for you so quickly. Just think if they had not been so greedy and let in drag on over time very slowly or until the house roll was much larger. It could have been much much worse. I'm sorry for your loss here don't get me wrong.. I'm just trying to look at the positive things here.

even if they continued slowly, in a couple of days i would have noticed and found out what the problem was. I was already subconsciously aware of it.

I'm glad you were staying on top of things here. You're one of the originals, like myself and it's nice to see other members paying attention to these things besides the mods/owners.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
Yes, that would explain why someone would make 9 small bets and then suddenly a very large bet and win.

I have seen that happen a lot too.

I will still support you with my investments and other kinds of support.

You are in my opinion the #1 gambling site and you are very professional.

I am glad i have found you guys, I am sorry for your loss, but I'm sure you will make it back reasonably quickly.

I'm glad that this person was stupid enough to make it noticeable for you so quickly. Just think if they had not been so greedy and let in drag on over time very slowly or until the house roll was much larger. It could have been much much worse. I'm sorry for your loss here don't get me wrong.. I'm just trying to look at the positive things here.

even if they continued slowly, in a couple of days i would have noticed and found out what the problem was. I was already subconsciously aware of it.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Yes, that would explain why someone would make 9 small bets and then suddenly a very large bet and win.

I have seen that happen a lot too.

I will still support you with my investments and other kinds of support.

You are in my opinion the #1 gambling site and you are very professional.

I am glad i have found you guys, I am sorry for your loss, but I'm sure you will make it back reasonably quickly.

I'm glad that this person was stupid enough to make it noticeable for you so quickly. Just think if they had not been so greedy and let in drag on over time very slowly or until the house roll was much larger. It could have been much much worse. I'm sorry for your loss here don't get me wrong.. I'm just trying to look at the positive things here.

Good point.

Dishonest actors are usually much more foolish then they believe themselves to be.  If that weren't the case, there would be no need for them to be dishonest to find their happiness or whatever derivative makes sense to them.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Yes, that would explain why someone would make 9 small bets and then suddenly a very large bet and win.

I have seen that happen a lot too.

I will still support you with my investments and other kinds of support.

You are in my opinion the #1 gambling site and you are very professional.

I am glad i have found you guys, I am sorry for your loss, but I'm sure you will make it back reasonably quickly.

I'm glad that this person was stupid enough to make it noticeable for you so quickly. Just think if they had not been so greedy and let in drag on over time very slowly or until the house roll was much larger. It could have been much much worse. I'm sorry for your loss here don't get me wrong.. I'm just trying to look at the positive things here.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
Yes, that would explain why someone would make 9 small bets and then suddenly a very large bet and win.

I have seen that happen a lot too.

I will still support you with my investments and other kinds of support.

You are in my opinion the #1 gambling site and you are very professional.

I am glad i have found you guys, I am sorry for your loss, but I'm sure you will make it back reasonably quickly.

When i saw some people with a lot of luck i started to look out of curiosity if they used martingale or flat bets, i also tried to chat with them but they usually did not reply to me. Then i noticed a strange betting pattern as well, in which they often bet minimum amount but every now and than they would bet maximum and win, every single time. I'm sorry for not telling you about it sooner but i just didn't want to blame potentially honest players, especially because i am an investor i did not want to look like a greed who can't take a loss. I don't mind losing some of my investment to fair players, that's part of the game. But when +2.5% profit turns to -20% in a flash there's something fishy.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
thanks for taking this very swift and professional approach, if anything this event shows how trustworthy and professional the staff really is, and it made the website more secure.

We are lucky to have it happen now rather than later. A loss of 7 or 8 bitcoin or so, while sad, is not a disaster. If it were to happen later and hundreds, if not thousands of bitcoins would be stolen, it would have been a disaster.

I fully trust Ali, Wiebe and Christiaan and their story is not fake, i can verify the story, I had nothing to do with the stolen bitcoin but i know that it is possible to predict the seeds by manipulating them in the way as described.

I already noticed the flaw myself before the admins did however i did not recognize it as a flaw, only after it happened i realized it in retrospect. If i would have realized it sooner i would have told them. I will keep an eye on any future flaws, however the current solution seems to have no flaws as far as i can tell. And as i said before i indeed noticed strange betting patterns, however back than i wrote them of as luck.

But i can, in retrospect, guarantee that i have seen some people covering up bets even days ago, by winning all their bets but waiting for other gamblers to make 100 bets or so to cover up that they always won (but i still noticed, and just thought they were very lucky, even though i thought it was strange they stopped betting for 15 minutes or so just to win a bet 15 minutes later and repeat over a period of several hours).

Thanks for your support zimmah, you're a pleasure to have here and in chat.

Please bear in mind though, this exploit would not have allowed anyone to 'always win'.  What they were able to do, was ensure a win on every 10th roll.

A list of the suspected account names will be made public soon.

EDIT:  I see I may have misrepresented what you were saying as you now provided an accurate representation of the exploitation's betting string.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
I still can't believe this happened Sad  some people are just POS that have to screw everything up for the rest of us. I'm glad the staff has acted professionally though. Now all we can do is wait for the site to come back up..
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
thanks for taking this very swift and professional approach, if anything this event shows how trustworthy and professional the staff really is, and it made the website more secure.

We are lucky to have it happen now rather than later. A loss of 7 or 8 bitcoin or so, while sad, is not a disaster. If it were to happen later and hundreds, if not thousands of bitcoins would be stolen, it would have been a disaster.

I fully trust Ali, Wiebe and Christiaan and their story is not fake, i can verify the story, I had nothing to do with the stolen bitcoin but i know that it is possible to predict the seeds by manipulating them in the way as described.

I already noticed the flaw myself before the admins did however i did not recognize it as a flaw, only after it happened i realized it in retrospect. If i would have realized it sooner i would have told them. I will keep an eye on any future flaws, however the current solution seems to have no flaws as far as i can tell. And as i said before i indeed noticed strange betting patterns, however back than i wrote them of as luck.

But i can, in retrospect, guarantee that i have seen some people covering up bets even days ago, by winning all their bets but waiting for other gamblers to make 100 bets or so to cover up that they always won (but i still noticed, and just thought they were very lucky, even though i thought it was strange they stopped betting for 15 minutes or so just to win a bet 15 minutes later and repeat over a period of several hours).

It would look a bit like this:

Code:
Gambler A won 0.0100
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
{...}
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambelr A won 0.01
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
{...}
Gambler B lost 0.00000001
Gambelr A won 0.01
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
good thing you noticed that in time, i already thought something like that. As it was pretty curious to see some people almost always winning.

I have noticed it earlier as well, but not on such a large scale.

This also explains why i often saw players always winning when they bet large amounts and only losing 10 satoshis on a bet when they lost (i even thought in my head wow, it's just like they predict WHEN they win)


at first i was just like well, maybe they are just crazy lucky, but when the bankroll started to dwindle by several bitcoins in an hour i started getting worried about compromised security.

You have a keen eye then.

It's a slipperyslope attempting to attach patterns to the arbitrary manifestations of true randomness, and we didn't want to bar honest players from simply winning.

Moving forward however, we will have more safety measures in place to block and ban accounts as well we won't hesitate to turn off betting in the case of suspicious activity.

legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
good thing you noticed that in time, i already thought something like that. As it was pretty curious to see some people almost always winning.

I have noticed it earlier as well, but not on such a large scale.

This also explains why i often saw players always winning when they bet large amounts and only losing 10 satoshis on a bet when they lost (i even thought in my head wow, it's just like they predict WHEN they win)


at first i was just like well, maybe they are just crazy lucky, but when the bankroll started to dwindle by several bitcoins in an hour i started getting worried about compromised security.
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