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July 31, 2023, 06:11:55 PM
I'm not sure the Saudi League will be very popular in the future. Just now there have been some really big transfers of superstars from European leagues. But it reminds me more of the time when stars went to America at the end of their careers. It's probably going to be something like that in Saudi.
Saudi is just starting to get involved in European player transfers, so anything could happen.. It's caused by saudi gonna try that even harder than before to recruit more and best players that can push the name of this league. People were skeptical of Ronaldo's move, but the Saudi club's successful recruitment of players with high salaries has proven doubters wrong. I remind you that saudi has unlimited money from oil and various commodities. I think that more intervention gonna come from saudi club. European clubs find it hard to sign players because they have to compete with Saudi clubs and spend more money. Saudi makes everything become even harder these days.
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July 31, 2023, 06:01:50 PM

If from my point of view it is possible that the Saudi league will continue to survive for the next two seasons, but this must still be balanced by bringing in other European star players and if they do nothing in these two seasons it is likely that the Saudi league will not last long either.

The Saudi league would continue to survive and perhaps thrive not just for the next two seasons but many more seasons to come. I don’t also think it’s that much of a necessity to bring in European star players in order to survive. True, bringing in well known players from all around would definitely help in making the Saudi league more popular and probably get more people to watch and talk about it. But not having well known players wouldn’t make the league not to survive. It won’t just be as popular and watched as hoped.
Besides, the Saudis probably have enough money to keep signing European players and bringing them in. So you should not bother about the survival of the league. They would survive.
In a much as we want to see the Saudi Arabian League become one of the biggest and toughest leagues in the world, we must also not forget that there might be some future financial challenges considering the huge amount of money they've spent on bringing European based superstars to the Saudi league.
For a fact, the players are gonna bring unprecedented quality to the league but what I think should be a major concern is if the clubs that signed these players can continue to fund the players' wages in the future
For few seasons this isn't going to be an issue for the clubs that are much backed by the oil money. At some point there'll be financial problem, when more and more popular players sign contract with the clubs. Saudi Arabia government is much supportive in the progress of te league and that can keep things in an orderly manner. The prime objective the government have got is to make Saudi Arabia better place than having a overview of this being a oil land and full of deserts.
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July 31, 2023, 05:52:39 PM
Now, Mane has been confirmed to be part of Al Nassr. you can be sure, Mane will fill the wing position. thus, this team will be stronger and more competitive, even though it would be even more ideal if Al Nassr brought in one more winger. but do not rule out, if the scenario you say can be applied by the coach. but if that's the scenario, ideally Al Nassr should play a local centre-forward. because, they have several young players who are in ST positions.
now the question is, will coach Al Nassr try to implement the scenario as you say. if so, maybe it will be more interesting and give their local young players a chance.

Sadio mane will be bringing in more attack to the Al Nassr side just as he did when he was playing for Liverpool. If Sadio mane plays half of what he played at Liverpool for Al Nassr, I don't think they'll be having issues winning games and defending from the front because that's the work of Sadio mane, back at Liverpool he was doing all the dirty works that Mo Salah and others couldn't do and since he'll be playing along side with Ronaldo, he'll be helping with the defending and the attacking. If I was their coach this is how I'll lineup the attacks, Sadio mane plays 7 and Talisca plays 10, Ronaldo plus 9 and maybe someone with good crossing legs plays 11.

This is why I was thinking Hakim's deals was going to go through as he would had been playing the 11 role. Let's not start asking for the coach to start giving home grown talent spot yet, maybe if they're winning he can bring them on because this season is going to be a very strong competition in SPL. Aren't you seeing the players other clubs are gathering. Al Nassr needs to put their best players out every game and having mane support Ronaldo with Talisca is going to be be a good collaboration. I don't expect anything less than 40+ goals from the three of them.
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July 31, 2023, 05:30:01 PM

If from my point of view it is possible that the Saudi league will continue to survive for the next two seasons, but this must still be balanced by bringing in other European star players and if they do nothing in these two seasons it is likely that the Saudi league will not last long either.

The Saudi league would continue to survive and perhaps thrive not just for the next two seasons but many more seasons to come. I don’t also think it’s that much of a necessity to bring in European star players in order to survive. True, bringing in well known players from all around would definitely help in making the Saudi league more popular and probably get more people to watch and talk about it. But not having well known players wouldn’t make the league not to survive. It won’t just be as popular and watched as hoped.
Besides, the Saudis probably have enough money to keep signing European players and bringing them in. So you should not bother about the survival of the league. They would survive.
In a much as we want to see the Saudi Arabian League become one of the biggest and toughest leagues in the world, we must also not forget that there might be some future financial challenges considering the huge amount of money they've spent on bringing European based superstars to the Saudi league.
For a fact, the players are gonna bring unprecedented quality to the league but what I think should be a major concern is if the clubs that signed these players can continue to fund the players' wages in the future
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July 31, 2023, 05:23:47 PM

If from my point of view it is possible that the Saudi league will continue to survive for the next two seasons, but this must still be balanced by bringing in other European star players and if they do nothing in these two seasons it is likely that the Saudi league will not last long either.

The Saudi league would continue to survive and perhaps thrive not just for the next two seasons but many more seasons to come. I don’t also think it’s that much of a necessity to bring in European star players in order to survive. True, bringing in well known players from all around would definitely help in making the Saudi league more popular and probably get more people to watch and talk about it. But not having well known players wouldn’t make the league not to survive. It won’t just be as popular and watched as hoped.
Besides, the Saudis probably have enough money to keep signing European players and bringing them in. So you should not bother about the survival of the league. They would survive.
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July 31, 2023, 05:10:00 PM
They played a decent game against Monastir, but to be fair that wasn't really a team they should have trouble with neither, looked like Al-Nassr was a much better team to begin with. Plus there are still some positions that needs to improve, there are for some reason huge gaps between positions and I believe that if they are willing to spend this much money, they could spend just a little bit more and get those positions some good players. Between Telles, Brozovic, Fofana and Ronaldo (and of course Talisca who they already had) they are looking like a real good team but other teams are getting stars too, they really need to put some more emphasis on defense and goalkeeper for sure.
For goalkeepers it looks like Al Nassr will try to seduce De Gea in this transfer window. Because previously De Gea was often associated with Al Nassr after he ended his contract with Manchester United. I think the depth of Al Nassr squad is very strong at the moment because after Sadio Mane arrived their front line is strong enough.

For Al Ittihad FC they were able to win the previous two matches where Karim Benzema became a hero for Al Ittihad in beating his opponents. The presence of Benzema in the Al Ittihad Fc squad has had a pretty good impact on their front lines for next season.
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July 31, 2023, 04:57:43 PM
They played a decent game against Monastir, but to be fair that wasn't really a team they should have trouble with neither, looked like Al-Nassr was a much better team to begin with. Plus there are still some positions that needs to improve, there are for some reason huge gaps between positions and I believe that if they are willing to spend this much money, they could spend just a little bit more and get those positions some good players. Between Telles, Brozovic, Fofana and Ronaldo (and of course Talisca who they already had) they are looking like a real good team but other teams are getting stars too, they really need to put some more emphasis on defense and goalkeeper for sure.
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July 31, 2023, 04:43:59 PM

Didn't Ronaldo usually play in a wing position and then attacked with massive speed and made use of his ability to finish with both feet? Maybe the coach makes the decision to let him play as a center-forward because he isn't as fast as he used to be. However, when I watched some scenes from games he still is one of the fastest on the field. I think these outstanding players who have more speed than most of the others and who can also use both of their feet almost equally, are of more advantage to the team when they play in a wing position. But sure he can also play center-forward.

The fact is that as we know, Ronaldo is now more inclined to play as a center forward even though he can actually play in various positions. we can even refer to the Arab Club Champions Cup match, Luis Castro implemented a 4-2-3-1 pattern as I said before. the new coach prefers to play one centre-forward up front, and three players behind him to help when building attacks. in that match Talisca played as AM, two other European players such as Fofana and Brozovic played as double vipot. the final result of Al Nassr won a landslide victory, naturally because the team they were fighting against was not a strong team. but seeing from what Luis Castro has implemented, it is likely that Ronaldo will always be a center forward.

Now, Mane has been confirmed to be part of Al Nassr. you can be sure, Mane will fill the wing position. thus, this team will be stronger and more competitive, even though it would be even more ideal if Al Nassr brought in one more winger. but do not rule out, if the scenario you say can be applied by the coach. but if that's the scenario, ideally Al Nassr should play a local centre-forward. because, they have several young players who are in ST positions.
now the question is, will coach Al Nassr try to implement the scenario as you say. if so, maybe it will be more interesting and give their local young players a chance.
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July 31, 2023, 04:41:41 PM
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Why all these comparisons when you can just watch them both and smile? I did compared them alot but these days, I just go back watch these king's doing magic and wonders on and off the field of play.
Ronaldo has earned all of that. Take it easy on you, he's won it all. Most careers can't match what he's achieved so be happy someone could do so through hardwork.

Lionel Messi might be your favorite player but there's no point in all these comparisons. Infact, he has a young mind active brain to do more but believe me he's got no strength and energy to do all that he did during them Europe stay. Lionel Messi is naturally talented and also at this same age, Cristiano Ronaldo dominated the Italian Seria A scoring Astonishing goals.
Its safe to say that both Messi and Ronaldo will go down in history as two of the greatest players of all time. Appreciating their individual strengths rather than making comparisons sounds like the proper approach. Keep in mind that every player has their own distinct play style, set of skills, and story. Ronaldo had a major impact in Italian Seria A thanks to his dogged dedication, whereas Messi was successful due to his innate ability. Due of his relative youth, Messi may yet possess some useful skills. But do we think Ronaldo is ready to admit that his playing days are over? We can only speculate. His enthusiasm is easily misunderstood as anger, but thats just how he plays. After all, who doesnt like a good soccer drama?
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July 31, 2023, 04:27:25 PM
I have to agree with Ronaldo effective move pave way for other players, they should be among top teams that bought all the available free and fully contracted players and it seems the oil money is still in excess because I don't quite understand Al-Hilal and all this money they are generously spending on players. Just today rumors that I read from a reliable source, (not Fabrizio Romano) that Al-Hilal has push two different offer for Osimhen to the team, that of $120m for a year and $140m for the second year, that's an amount that can change life forever but at the cost of his career because Osimhen is still very young.

Haven't look at how Saudi Arabia are having more numbers of old European team to the clubs. I still feel Messi got all the attention in MLS than what other players have did in Saudi Arabia, perhaps it's due to the fact that they are yet to score any goal but will they have the chance like that. Even Ronaldo has not score any goals in his last 3 matches, only Benzema has been doing fine in his team.

The Saudi league is indirectly sponsored by the Saudi government. The government has plans to make the league competitive and is also seeking support for future world cup hosting right. There was a report in May that the Saudi government is willing to invest about $20b in its clubs to help them attract the best players. Napoli will be willing to sell Osimhen for a good price because most Italian clubs are going through financial problems and they need money to stabilize their teams. But I doubt if the Nigerian striker will consider moving to Al-Hilal. He is a young player that has not achieved much and will be desperate to win at least a European competition. And Napoli will not force him to leave because they also need him to pursue their goals this season.

Messi is a very influential player. He has been a rival of Ronaldo and people like comparing. He is getting so much attention currently because he scored a beautiful goal in his first game with his new team. And his goal gave Inter Miami their first win in many games. I don't think any former European-based player has scored such a classic goal in the Saudi Professional League. Maybe when the league starts properly, we might start seeing quality games, and players like Benzema and others might start gaining attention.
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July 31, 2023, 03:07:09 PM
Didn't Ronaldo usually play in a wing position and then attacked with massive speed and made use of his ability to finish with both feet? Maybe the coach makes the decision to let him play as a center-forward because he isn't as fast as he used to be. However, when I watched some scenes from games he still is one of the fastest on the field. I think these outstanding players who have more speed than most of the others and who can also use both of their feet almost equally, are of more advantage to the team when they play in a wing position. But sure he can also play center-forward.
Ronaldo is the player who can able to playing at different position and he was starting his career at Manchester United as a winger and at that time he was recognized as fast player with amazing drible skill but when he was moved to Real Madrid the manager very often to played him as second striker or inside forward and during play at this position Ronaldo goals records was increasing rapidly even i have to says Ronaldo has reach to his high level of performance at that time

And at Juventus he got new position as a centre forward and his performance was quite impressive with that position and still able to scores a lot of goals and since that Ronaldo was often to playing as centre forward even so with Al Nassr and the records 14 goals from 16 matches has proven Ronaldo is very suitable if he played as centre forward

Ok I can't really precisely recall what position Ronaldo used to play when he was part of the Juventus Turin team, but I thought that he used to play almost all of his games as a forward left wing striker or something like that. He is still fast but wasn't this one of the adjustments made by Al-Nassr to let him play the center-forward position most of the time since his speed slightly decreased?

His goal statistics have never been bad and if he played for five more years, I think the statistics would still be pretty much above average. His physical condition for a 38.5 years old guy is phenomenal. He has never really become more susceptible to injuries and he said himself that his plan is to play for many years to come. However, when he said that he was still in Europe and playing the Champions League. The transfer to Saudi Arabia might change his mind.
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July 31, 2023, 02:11:07 PM
Bayern doesn't need him anymore. The money raised from selling mane to the saudi club gonna be used to sign kane from spurs. It's a win win situation for both of clubs. Bayern will able to buy kane from spurs while mane gonna leave from the toxic club and he will join in the saudi club to play together with CR7 and so many great players. Sadio mane will make attacking line of saudi club to be even better compared with last season. Even the club was able getting draw against some strong teams.
I would not be surprised if mane will also change the attacking line of al nassr. Im very happy ronaldo gets another great team mate that comes to the its club. Mane being convinced by ronaldo's suggestion to leave from bayern and join in the al nassr.

There will be great improvements gonna happen in al nassr. I can't even wait for the first match between al nassr vs ettifaq. We will see ronaldo to face great stars that already bought by al ettifaq.
Actually Bayern Munchen is looking for a player with a back number 9 or a pure striker to replace Robert Lewandowski who left for Barcelona. Mane who was recruited from Liverpool, is thought to be able to occupy this position even though Mane original position was as a winger. Many consider the factor of changing his position as a center striker at Bayern Munchen to make Mane not develop and unable to make the expected contribution.

Apart from that, the injury factor and tension with his team-mate Sane further worsened his performance on the field. If the money from selling Mane can be realized in recruiting Harry Kane, then it is predicted that Kane can meet Tuchel expectations on the front lines without significant obstacles. But Kane could have met the same fate as Saido Mane if he suffered an injury in his first season, hopefully not.

I think that would be a really wise move from Bayern Munchen to use the money they get from the Saudis gave for Mane to buy a super talented forwarder which is not that high on age too,it is a win situation for Bayern Munchen considering that Mane was not performing like expected with Bayern.

On the Saudi side they are doing all in their power by spending a huge amount of money to try and recruit as many world class players as they can for the Saudi League which if they continue with this rhythm for another 5 years it will be a great league.


Saudi Arabia didn't have strong league years ago and football in this country was not developed too but after hiring these top European players, I think Saudi Arabia made the decision to develop their football and maybe in the years they can even have income from it because there is not more interest on watching the Saudi league game after this season.

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July 31, 2023, 01:56:26 PM

SPL and Chinese league aren't comparable. Surely SPL is more attractive than Chinese league. The clubs of SPL also have more money than the clubs in China league.



The Chinese also spent a lot of money on the transfer, but they didn't manage to attract so much attention. I think Ronaldo is a very big influence at this point. Because he transferred to the Saudi Professional League, many footballers refer to him. If the Chinese League had made this kind of transfer at that time, they could have had a bigger impact.

Last year there was only Ronaldo in the Saudi Professional League. This season there are also star players like Benzema, Riyad Mahrez, Allan Saint-Maximin, Roberto Firmino and Edouard Mendy. Let's see what kind of league awaits us.

I have to agree with Ronaldo effective move pave way for other players, they should be among top teams that bought all the available free and fully contracted players and it seems the oil money is still in excess because I don't quite understand Al-Hilal and all this money they are generously spending on players. Just today rumors that I read from a reliable source, (not Fabrizio Romano) that Al-Hilal has push two different offer for Osimhen to the team, that of $120m for a year and $140m for the second year, that's an amount that can change life forever but at the cost of his career because Osimhen is still very young.

Haven't look at how Saudi Arabia are having more numbers of old European team to the clubs. I still feel Messi got all the attention in MLS than what other players have did in Saudi Arabia, perhaps it's due to the fact that they are yet to score any goal but will they have the chance like that. Even Ronaldo has not score any goals in his last 3 matches, only Benzema has been doing fine in his team.
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July 31, 2023, 01:31:29 PM

SPL and Chinese league aren't comparable. Surely SPL is more attractive than Chinese league. The clubs of SPL also have more money than the clubs in China league.



The Chinese also spent a lot of money on the transfer, but they didn't manage to attract so much attention. I think Ronaldo is a very big influence at this point. Because he transferred to the Saudi Professional League, many footballers refer to him. If the Chinese League had made this kind of transfer at that time, they could have had a bigger impact.

Last year there was only Ronaldo in the Saudi Professional League. This season there are also star players like Benzema, Riyad Mahrez, Allan Saint-Maximin, Roberto Firmino and Edouard Mendy. Let's see what kind of league awaits us.

China didn't attract many stars in their time, moreover they didn't keep the tendency to lure players to their league and apparently then forgot about it altogether. If they had put more effort into it, they might have been able to achieve the same results as the Saudi League over time. I don't remember any stars moving to china other than Iniesta, alas, that's saying something
The different is clear, China  did spent much but they never brought in the right players, and never developed well before making such transfer, they was no sustainable goal for the league, that's why it fails.

But the Saudi Arabia pro league will sustain for greater future, they brought in right players. And by three years coming they will be very competitive like the premiere league.
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July 31, 2023, 01:20:38 PM

SPL and Chinese league aren't comparable. Surely SPL is more attractive than Chinese league. The clubs of SPL also have more money than the clubs in China league.



The Chinese also spent a lot of money on the transfer, but they didn't manage to attract so much attention. I think Ronaldo is a very big influence at this point. Because he transferred to the Saudi Professional League, many footballers refer to him. If the Chinese League had made this kind of transfer at that time, they could have had a bigger impact.

Last year there was only Ronaldo in the Saudi Professional League. This season there are also star players like Benzema, Riyad Mahrez, Allan Saint-Maximin, Roberto Firmino and Edouard Mendy. Let's see what kind of league awaits us.

China didn't attract many stars in their time, moreover they didn't keep the tendency to lure players to their league and apparently then forgot about it altogether. If they had put more effort into it, they might have been able to achieve the same results as the Saudi League over time. I don't remember any stars moving to china other than Iniesta, alas, that's saying something
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July 31, 2023, 01:17:37 PM
My guess if ronaldo will be angry if al nassr will get same result like the previous one.

Of course Grin it would be a great surprise if Cristiano Ronaldo will not get furious if they will still get the same result after having a bad run recently. Being the captain of the team, Ronaldo surely cannot hide his frustrations and disappointment after every loss because they have prepared for this Cup and even poured so much time just to get the team in shape to have a much better chance in the games. Still, we cannot even deny that they still need more experience because Ronaldo mainly in his age cannot carry a team anymore.
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July 31, 2023, 12:48:25 PM
I bet that Mnae and Ronaldo would be playing close to each other without a doubt. Mane could be a little left side and Ronaldo would be just up there and Talisca would be behind them both. Think of it like it is still 3 players at the head, but instead of left center and right, it would mostly be left-center, center, and behind center. That is not common I know but if these are the players you have then you should do that.

If they get one great amazing player of this level to right side as well, then we are going to see them be amazing without a doubt. Remember all these players are a little too old, and that means we are talking about a situation where they may all fail, because they are too old to play well, or maybe they will do great, we still do not know.
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July 31, 2023, 12:32:33 PM

SPL and Chinese league aren't comparable. Surely SPL is more attractive than Chinese league. The clubs of SPL also have more money than the clubs in China league.



The Chinese also spent a lot of money on the transfer, but they didn't manage to attract so much attention. I think Ronaldo is a very big influence at this point. Because he transferred to the Saudi Professional League, many footballers refer to him. If the Chinese League had made this kind of transfer at that time, they could have had a bigger impact.

Last year there was only Ronaldo in the Saudi Professional League. This season there are also star players like Benzema, Riyad Mahrez, Allan Saint-Maximin, Roberto Firmino and Edouard Mendy. Let's see what kind of league awaits us.

Currently, Saudi Professional League is progressing towards great development. Because no one thought about the Saudi professional league in the past when Ronaldo appeared last year, but in the present time, it is on a huge improvement. A lot of stars have come from English clubs because of the big offers and facilities. And other clubs are trying hard to bring in the stars by making huge offers on Saudi superstars. And the King of Saudi is helping the clubs enough to expose them to the world so that the whole world recognizes Saudi clubs.
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July 31, 2023, 12:30:10 PM
If I'm not mistaken, it seems that not all clubs can afford star players. Only clubs that are incorporated and the club's shares are mostly owned by PIF can afford to buy good players from Europe. It seems that there are only 4 clubs. In the end, maybe those 4 clubs will dominate the Saudi Arabian League for the new season. Money is the main factor, but players who can still compete in Europe won't want to play there. Maybe not all players, just look at Mbappe he turned down a fantastic salary and offer.
But the news is that the club that bought the star player is still in the same company, is that right?

Arab clubs buy players with an average age that is old, while young European players they still want to have a career there even though there are bigger offers for themselves, this is a love for football not that but on the other hand there is also thinking about money rather than playing in Europe.
We must know who in the 4 clubs that buy a lot of European players, are they able to finish as champions? Quite interesting actually.
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July 31, 2023, 12:28:12 PM
The movements made by Arab League Clubs are indeed very surprising, especially not only one club that does that but there are several clubs that make large transfers of players from Europe and also the prices are relatively high compared to their market prices. Of course it will make the name of the League even bigger, it is proven by the many requests for broadcasting rights to broadcast Arab League matches, not only this season, but already from last season after Cristiano Ronaldo joined Al Nassr. Money talks here, they spend money to get money.

If I'm not mistaken, it seems that not all clubs can afford star players. Only clubs that are incorporated and the club's shares are mostly owned by PIF can afford to buy good players from Europe. It seems that there are only 4 clubs. In the end, maybe those 4 clubs will dominate the Saudi Arabian League for the new season. Money is the main factor, but players who can still compete in Europe won't want to play there. Maybe not all players, just look at Mbappe he turned down a fantastic salary and offer.

Because Mbappe is still very young to play outside of European football, so the point is not to refuse big money. But obviously, it would be a shame if Mbappe left European football at such a young age. So in this case, only players who have entered the age of 30 have a great chance of being able to accept the offer to play in the Saudi Professional League. Also, not even just Mbappe refused the offer to play in Saudi, because there are still other players too like Lautaro Martinez who also refused to play in Saudi and maybe there are still a few other players too. So clearly, they are still prioritizing to build their careers better with good achievements in Europe and it seems that the reasons for refusal are not all related about money.
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