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Quote from: tusandii on July 16, 2023, 04:18:00 AM

China experienced a failure when the government spent a certain amount of money to fund the expenses of football clubs and clear profits were not obtained because football was not really the most popular sport there, moreover the development of Chinese football clubs could not have success fast enough that's why it would only there is always a loss that can be.
In contrast to the Saudis who are really enthusiastic about being able to advance the development of football there, even the Saudi League so far has always had increasing enthusiasts.
That's why Saudi are able to provide big budgets for football clubs and still survive.

Maybe you don't understand the point of what I'm saying but no problem we just discuss based on opinion yeah it's not easy to understand this situation, I still believe that their main goal is not to make the League famous or anything like that they use football to promote other projects and so far they have succeeded because it has become a worldwide concern and hot news in the media. For now we just enjoy the competition in this league and we have to wait until 2030 to see the results of this project.

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For now you are describing the status quo and the younger high potential talents will try to stay and find their role within a top European club, but what if the Saudi Professional League keeps expanding their top player portfolio, is even willing to spend more money than they already are and in a next step try to establish their own kind of Champions League and subsidize it to a level that no other international competition can compete with? We are not there yet, but I wouldn't vouch for such a scenario being unrealistic. I think it is possible and it only needs some broadcasters who like the idea and show the league on the most prominent channels around the world. That is when the dominant role of European soccer will be at risk.

It is possible that this happens, the Saudi people are good strategist and rich ones too that have the money to do what they plan. Maybe that can be in the stage two of their plans so far to use the new players to start a competition that will attract young players.

A few days ago Saudi clubs were criticized in varies ways that they only try to include popular and senior players in their clubs. But there is no doubt about the strategy that Saudi is pursuing as they are attracting not only senior players but also young players which indicates their long strategic plan. According to their plans, the Saudi Pro League will attract the attention of the world in the next few years. While there have been a lot of rumors about player transfers in recent times, there is also some truths. As a result, the Saudi league will continue to get better players from around the world.

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Quote from: bering on July 16, 2023, 02:39:06 AM

There was a rumour about Jordan Henderson transfer today that previously Al Ettifaq are dare to pay 700.000 per week salary for Henderson and he has been agree with that amount and moved to Al Ettifaq because Henderson has realized he wouldn't gets much minutes to play if staying at Liverpool especially Liverpool has gets several players for midfielder position so that's why he will accept the offers from Al Ettifaq but it's been two days since the negotiation reach an agreement but Al Ettifaq hasn't officially bid for Henderson this because Liverpool want 20 millions but it say Al Ettifaq only able to pay 13 million considering this is their highest budget for this summer so this transfer have potention to be failed because Liverpool aren't willing to lowering the price

Anyhow, Liverpool do not want to loss and gain more money from transfer fee Jordan Henderson. Considering that his remaining contract also still more two years at the Reds, so Liverpool do not want to lowering that man transfer fee. Yes, it seems like Ettifaq agreement with Jordan Henderson will be failed, because they have a limited budget with the amount you already mentioned.

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Quote from: shogun47 on July 15, 2023, 04:57:30 PM

For now you are describing the status quo and the younger high potential talents will try to stay and find their role within a top European club, but what if the Saudi Professional League keeps expanding their top player portfolio, is even willing to spend more money than they already are and in a next step try to establish their own kind of Champions League and subsidize it to a level that no other international competition can compete with? We are not there yet, but I wouldn't vouch for such a scenario being unrealistic. I think it is possible and it only needs some broadcasters who like the idea and show the league on the most prominent channels around the world. That is when the dominant role of European soccer will be at risk.

It is possible that this happens, the Saudi people are good strategist and rich ones too that have the money to do what they plan. Maybe that can be in the stage two of their plans so far to use the new players to start a competition that will attract young players.

Al Ahli that Riyad Mahrez just agreed to join, the team that Edouard Mendy, Roberto Firmino already joined are also interested in bringing Allan Saint-Maximin from Newcastle who is just 26years of age but very talented as we saw last season whenever he played. He always made defenders against him nervous and is a good player any team would be happy to have.

https://talksport.com/football/1499251/newcastle-allan-saint-maximin-transfer-harvey-barnes/

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Quote from: rendravolt on July 15, 2023, 11:45:03 PM

Quote from: Asiska02 on July 15, 2023, 03:23:01 PM

I would rather say the Saudi league are bringing in former best players who were at a time the best players to have played in Europe league. They’re not bringing in current best players who are still at their prime now, maybe they won’t want to join since they’re still valued at their teams and in Europe.

Even the addition of this past great players have added value to their league, I just imagine how many popularity and recognition the league will get more when young and talented players at their peak level joins the league.

It's true that the saudi league did that and I don't think it's a problem because they signed a former European star player who already has great experience in various competitions. Moreover, even though most of them are former European star players, the exposure resulting from their big names is clearly felt for the popularity of the Saudi league and therefore this is like a mutually beneficial collaboration. I think other leagues that have large investment funds need to imitate the Saudi league way of starting to introduce their league so that it can be better known by outsiders.

It was a move made by them to attract younger players to join them. If they directly target a player at his golden age, it is clear that the player will prefer Europe for his career. But when they target players who are older and approaching retirement age with a large amount of money, then they will be easier to convince. But the point here is that their first move opens the door for other players. I don't know the exact number of European-labeled players that have joined them, but I do know that it's quite a lot.

It's about capital, because I also want to know if they're going to continue this program in the long term or not.
Their management of finances must be well managed, the slightest mistake will make it difficult for them. I'm just thinking realistically with the money they spend so much.

I believe they have a good business in Arabia, but they shouldn't get too carried away with it. About finances I mean because again the money they need is not a small amount of money to do everything they are doing right now.

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The experience from the Chinese League is enough to prove that using corporate/private party funds is not able to finance club expenses even they were unable to achieve a good profit things are different in the Saudi Professional League they get funding from the government obviously the club can afford all the expenses. The question is, why does the government want to finance the clubs in this league? I suspect this is related to the government's mega project which is called Saudi Vision 2030 you can check it on the official website.

China experienced a failure when the government spent a certain amount of money to fund the expenses of football clubs and clear profits were not obtained because football was not really the most popular sport there, moreover the development of Chinese football clubs could not have success fast enough that's why it would only there is always a loss that can be.
In contrast to the Saudis who are really enthusiastic about being able to advance the development of football there, even the Saudi League so far has always had increasing enthusiasts.
That's why Saudi are able to provide big budgets for football clubs and still survive.

Erm correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it the other way around? As far as I know the Chinese clubs began spending enormous amounts of money on players from the European leagues and when the Chinese government noticed what is going on, it was the government that blocked further transfers and introduced spending caps. I think it were a few Chinese billionaires who for a short period of time had the dream to enter the competition in global sports and in this case soccer.

A huge difference between the Chinese league and the SPL is also the proximity of Saudi Arabia to the Western countries. It is not the same when you are a few hours flight away from your home country or family as when you are living in China in a foreign world but also with a huge distance from anything you are familiar with.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 16, 2023, 01:39:14 AM

The experience from the Chinese League is enough to prove that using corporate/private party funds is not able to finance club expenses even they were unable to achieve a good profit things are different in the Saudi Professional League they get funding from the government obviously the club can afford all the expenses. The question is, why does the government want to finance the clubs in this league? I suspect this is related to the government's mega project which is called Saudi Vision 2030 you can check it on the official website.

China experienced a failure when the government spent a certain amount of money to fund the expenses of football clubs and clear profits were not obtained because football was not really the most popular sport there, moreover the development of Chinese football clubs could not have success fast enough that's why it would only there is always a loss that can be.
In contrast to the Saudis who are really enthusiastic about being able to advance the development of football there, even the Saudi League so far has always had increasing enthusiasts.
That's why Saudi are able to provide big budgets for football clubs and still survive.

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There was a rumour about Jordan Henderson transfer today that previously Al Ettifaq are dare to pay 700.000 per week salary for Henderson and he has been agree with that amount and moved to Al Ettifaq because Henderson has realized he wouldn't gets much minutes to play if staying at Liverpool especially Liverpool has gets several players for midfielder position so that's why he will accept the offers from Al Ettifaq but it's been two days since the negotiation reach an agreement but Al Ettifaq hasn't officially bid for Henderson this because Liverpool want 20 millions but it say Al Ettifaq only able to pay 13 million considering this is their highest budget for this summer so this transfer have potention to be failed because Liverpool aren't willing to lowering the price

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 16, 2023, 01:39:14 AM

The experience from the Chinese League is enough to prove that using corporate/private party funds is not able to finance club expenses even they were unable to achieve a good profit things are different in the Saudi Professional League they get funding from the government obviously the club can afford all the expenses. The question is, why does the government want to finance the clubs in this league? I suspect this is related to the government's mega project which is called Saudi Vision 2030 you can check it on the official website.

Yes i have seen it and read it carefully, the Government of Saudi Arabia is trying to make changes in the long term to avoid dependence on their energy resources, namely oil. Football is an important element in their efforts to carry out these reforms, so the move by the Government to fund Clubs in the SPL is part of their long term project. Henceforth, if the SPL League is more advanced and developing (competitive), there will be many outside sponsors who will bring benefits to the club, and the government will no longer need to fund it as it is at present.

It's true that many football observers see that the policy they are taking is a step that is extraordinarily genius. Because football (SPL) will bring more benefits to the State of Saudi Arabia than other sectors. I think the SPL will develop over time and will become a competitive league signing European stars.

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Quote from: rendravolt on July 15, 2023, 11:45:03 PM

It's true that the saudi league did that and I don't think it's a problem because they signed a former European star player who already has great experience in various competitions. Moreover, even though most of them are former European star players, the exposure resulting from their big names is clearly felt for the popularity of the Saudi league and therefore this is like a mutually beneficial collaboration. I think other leagues that have large investment funds need to imitate the Saudi league way of starting to introduce their league so that it can be better known by outsiders.

The experience from the Chinese League is enough to prove that using corporate/private party funds is not able to finance club expenses even they were unable to achieve a good profit things are different in the Saudi Professional League they get funding from the government obviously the club can afford all the expenses. The question is, why does the government want to finance the clubs in this league? I suspect this is related to the government's mega project which is called Saudi Vision 2030 you can check it on the official website.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on July 15, 2023, 03:23:01 PM

I would rather say the Saudi league are bringing in former best players who were at a time the best players to have played in Europe league. They’re not bringing in current best players who are still at their prime now, maybe they won’t want to join since they’re still valued at their teams and in Europe.

Even the addition of this past great players have added value to their league, I just imagine how many popularity and recognition the league will get more when young and talented players at their peak level joins the league.

It's true that the saudi league did that and I don't think it's a problem because they signed a former European star player who already has great experience in various competitions. Moreover, even though most of them are former European star players, the exposure resulting from their big names is clearly felt for the popularity of the Saudi league and therefore this is like a mutually beneficial collaboration. I think other leagues that have large investment funds need to imitate the Saudi league way of starting to introduce their league so that it can be better known by outsiders.

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Quote from: cytpoway121 on July 15, 2023, 06:49:53 PM

I agree with you; also i believe that the Saudi League teams are also strategic in their attempts; they have gone after players who still have couple of years to play and also mixed the signings with young players such as Mendy and Neves. With Mahrez reportedly being tempted to move from Manchester city and Henderson + Fabinho touted to join as well. The league is building its reputation well.

In a few years; they will have quality young gems coming out of their leagues.

Luring young people to join by recruiting so many skilled players into the league. It's an excellent strategy being used by SPL. I noticed that certain Saudi pro leagues are tempting young players with massive salaries.
Zaniolo can become the next young player gonna be recruited by SPL club. Saudi clubs went into the crazy mode. They were intervening any transfers that happened in the european competitions. Money is the main aim by professional football.

I gonna waiting for young player to join in the club soon. We will see a lot of changes gonna happen in the various clubs next season. SPL gonna be one of considerable league now.

The opening match gonna be gerrard's club against ronaldo's club (ettifaq vs nassr).

That's gonna be very interesting match.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on July 15, 2023, 09:28:06 PM

Saudi clubs have gained a lot of popularity since Ronaldo and Benzema joined the SPL from the European League.

With approaches from Middle East nations, they aim at long term and they shown it with their approaches for education, economics and now I believe they are doing this with football. They have a longer plan and more sustainable strategies for Saudi Professional League. I really believe that they are executing it with a plan like for 10 or 20 years to change their leagues and local player quality completely.

Japan and J-league are good case studies for Saudi Arabia to believe that they will successfully upgrade their league like J-league after a few decades.

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These two legendary players have other players to join the SPL who are thinking of joining the Saudi club. Bayern Munich legendary player Sadio Mane Al Nassr is likely to be signed. Reports have revealed that representatives of the former Liverpool star have met with Al Nassr club officials. If the deal is completed, Sadio Mane could be seen at the Saudi club in the Middle Eastern country. The SPL are offering huge sums of money to sign good stars which are attracting players to come to Saudi clubs.

Big clubs need money from transfers to rebuild their squads and it's nothing better than selling old players at very good transfer prices to Saudi Arabian clubs and use that transfer income to buy new players.

From player side, when they are old and already got some achievements in Europe, they have nothing to lose by moving to Saudi Professional League just to play a very last seasons in their career.

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An amazing journey of Saudi football by bringing in quality players and coaches. Yes, all their efforts are aimed at orbiting young stars to strengthen the National Team in the future. Their best moment as i can remember was when the Saudis beat Argentina 2-1 in the 2022 World Cup. Second after the game was over, Ronaldo made a new milestone by joining Al Nassr in the SPL.

I think these two things are the benchmark for us discussing the SPL today, the step to strengthen the SPL by recruiting former European players and former European coaches should be appreciated. Considering that besides making the League more competitive the Saudi State also gets various other benefits in various forms, such as increasing visitors to the country to watch their League.

Obviously the SPL will be a more competitive league next season because it's not just one team that has managed to get European players, several teams have even done this so there will be more interesting competition for us to see next season. So, in my opinion, Ronaldo and Benzeman are two players who have quite a big influence on the progress of the SPL next season.

In fact i think ronaldo and benzema will probably attract a large number of companies to join the SPL to do promotions as these two players are quite influential for now. Besides that, big profits will definitely come to them where they get it in terms of ticket sales or the broadcasting rights they get. Al-Ittihad is one of the most favored teams for next season and Al-Nassr is a pretty strong competitor for Al-Ittihad Club in the race for the trophy next season.

Yeah, Ronaldo was the first player that attracted the other European players to have that mindset on playing in SPL. Benzema did a sharp move and I know that he will bring more people to stay more focus on SPL. Ronaldo and Benzema are two world great players that have won good amount of trophies,this will even attract more professional players to see SPL and a league that will be a honour for them to play in. One beautiful thing is that they will appreciate your quality with a huge sum of money that most players will be tempted of.

Saudi clubs have gained a lot of popularity since Ronaldo and Benzema joined the SPL from the European League. These two legendary players have other players to join the SPL who are thinking of joining the Saudi club. Bayern Munich legendary player Sadio Mane Al Nassr is likely to be signed. Reports have revealed that representatives of the former Liverpool star have met with Al Nassr club officials. If the deal is completed, Sadio Mane could be seen at the Saudi club in the Middle Eastern country. The SPL are offering huge sums of money to sign good stars which are attracting players to come to Saudi clubs.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 15, 2023, 03:08:06 PM

Haha easy to guess almost all of them would agree to move to this league when their career had finished in the Europa League and almost retired at the same time there was an offer to move with a high salary of course they can't refuse it, it is the right choice. but if the offer that can be made to a young european player is clear they reject it they prefer career over money, not only players even top coaches also refused to join. We'll see in the next 2 seasons whether the Saudi League continues to do this.

They will be so difficult in finding a place that can give them huge salary like saudi clubs. that's why they were always accepting a contract from saudi clubs. The different thing with some people like messi which was accepting offer from intermiami and reject saudi club's offer. I don't even think if all of the young players gonna reject it. The chance for saudi's offer to be rejected will be very high but it doesn't mean all of them will reject it. As long as saudi club gonna offer very big salary and it may be enough to make them feel interesting to join in the saudi club. I think if all of players are still trying to calculate whether they will be accepting huge offer from saudi or not. It sounds non sense if the young player don't consider and calculate it.

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Quote from: Merit.s on July 15, 2023, 05:51:49 PM

Yeah, Ronaldo was the first player that attracted the other European players to have that mindset on playing in SPL. Benzema did a sharp move and I know that he will bring more people to stay more focus on SPL. Ronaldo and Benzema are two world great players that have won good amount of trophies,this will even attract more professional players to see SPL and a league that will be a honour for them to play in. One beautiful thing is that they will appreciate your quality with a huge sum of money that most players will be tempted of.

I agree with you; also i believe that the Saudi League teams are also strategic in their attempts; they have gone after players who still have couple of years to play and also mixed the signings with young players such as Mendy and Neves. With Mahrez reportedly being tempted to move from Manchester city and Henderson + Fabinho touted to join as well. The league is building its reputation well.

In a few years; they will have quality young gems coming out of their leagues.

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Quote from: Merit.s on July 15, 2023, 05:51:49 PM

Yeah, Ronaldo was the first player that attracted the other European players to have that mindset on playing in SPL. Benzema did a sharp move and I know that he will bring more people to stay more focus on SPL. Ronaldo and Benzema are two world great players that have won good amount of trophies,this will even attract more professional players to see SPL and a league that will be a honour for them to play in. One beautiful thing is that they will appreciate your quality with a huge sum of money that most players will be tempted of.

Yes, along with the current developments in the SPL where the Teams from the Saudi Arabian league are still very active in recruiting many players in this transfer window. It's true that ronaldo was the first player to go there in last season's transfer window which could be followed by other players looking to continue their career in the SPL. For this reason, I think there will be more concrete steps taken by Al Ahli in this transfer window because the Al Ahli management is still quite active in making approaches with European players.

Mahrez is a player who has been widely reported to be joining Al Ahli. In fact Al Ahli progress in signing Mahrez is close to a unanimous agreement with Manchester city. I think if Mahrez is successful in getting to Al-Ahli, then the strength of the Saudi Arabian league team will be very competitive in the competition next season.

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Quote from: bering on July 15, 2023, 09:23:28 AM

Al Hilal will attempts to buy Galatasaray player Nicolo Zaniolo that it say they are willing to pay 120 millions salary for 4 years and he has contract with Galatasaray until 2027 but this summer he was rumoured to moved from this team because reported Juventus are interested want to bought him from Galatasaray but apparently huge amount of salary which is offered by Al Hilal might be will tempting him to moved to Saudi Pro League and actually Zaniolo has arrived to Galatasaray on Feb this year but he has impressive performance and can able to help Galatasaray to get Turkish league title however Zaniolo is still 24 years old so he still have good potention to playing at european clubs and i think he should be thinking twice to accept the offers from Al Hilal

Juventus will offers nothing for him. Zaniolo shall never try to pass an opportunity to get a lot of money rather than playing in juventus which is facing financial problem at this moment. He is a good player. that's why saudi club was targeting him as next super star to be recruited by the club.
Zaniolo is very young too. He can come back to the european league after he will be finishing his career before. it's very hard choice for zaniolo at this moment. His age becomes the main reason why arabian club priced him very high.
It's unlikely zaniolo gonna play for juventus rather than saudi club. Saudi's offer is far bigger compared with juventus's offer at this moment. Zaniolo must think about playing in a club that potentially get another sanction is a huge gambling.
IF he played professional football caused by money and he must try to take a look at such opportunity to earn a lot of money in a short time against arabian club.

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An amazing journey of Saudi football by bringing in quality players and coaches. Yes, all their efforts are aimed at orbiting young stars to strengthen the National Team in the future. Their best moment as i can remember was when the Saudis beat Argentina 2-1 in the 2022 World Cup. Second after the game was over, Ronaldo made a new milestone by joining Al Nassr in the SPL.

I think these two things are the benchmark for us discussing the SPL today, the step to strengthen the SPL by recruiting former European players and former European coaches should be appreciated. Considering that besides making the League more competitive the Saudi State also gets various other benefits in various forms, such as increasing visitors to the country to watch their League.

Obviously the SPL will be a more competitive league next season because it's not just one team that has managed to get European players, several teams have even done this so there will be more interesting competition for us to see next season. So, in my opinion, Ronaldo and Benzeman are two players who have quite a big influence on the progress of the SPL next season.

In fact i think ronaldo and benzema will probably attract a large number of companies to join the SPL to do promotions as these two players are quite influential for now. Besides that, big profits will definitely come to them where they get it in terms of ticket sales or the broadcasting rights they get. Al-Ittihad is one of the most favored teams for next season and Al-Nassr is a pretty strong competitor for Al-Ittihad Club in the race for the trophy next season.

Yeah, Ronaldo was the first player that attracted the other European players to have that mindset on playing in SPL. Benzema did a sharp move and I know that he will bring more people to stay more focus on SPL. Ronaldo and Benzema are two world great players that have won good amount of trophies,this will even attract more professional players to see SPL and a league that will be a honour for them to play in. One beautiful thing is that they will appreciate your quality with a huge sum of money that most players will be tempted of.

Teams will never mind to pay good sum of money to the popular ones. It is all through them big business gets rolled. I don't have stats, but I'm sure that the business before the involvement of Ronaldo into Saudi Arabia Pro League and after his participation have very big difference. When more popular players make their participation this gonna make big business. Everything have got a calculation and based on the same will be the amount spent on players.

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Quote from: marcous on July 15, 2023, 12:39:13 PM

An amazing journey of Saudi football by bringing in quality players and coaches. Yes, all their efforts are aimed at orbiting young stars to strengthen the National Team in the future. Their best moment as i can remember was when the Saudis beat Argentina 2-1 in the 2022 World Cup. Second after the game was over, Ronaldo made a new milestone by joining Al Nassr in the SPL.

I think these two things are the benchmark for us discussing the SPL today, the step to strengthen the SPL by recruiting former European players and former European coaches should be appreciated. Considering that besides making the League more competitive the Saudi State also gets various other benefits in various forms, such as increasing visitors to the country to watch their League.

Obviously the SPL will be a more competitive league next season because it's not just one team that has managed to get European players, several teams have even done this so there will be more interesting competition for us to see next season. So, in my opinion, Ronaldo and Benzeman are two players who have quite a big influence on the progress of the SPL next season.

In fact i think ronaldo and benzema will probably attract a large number of companies to join the SPL to do promotions as these two players are quite influential for now. Besides that, big profits will definitely come to them where they get it in terms of ticket sales or the broadcasting rights they get. Al-Ittihad is one of the most favored teams for next season and Al-Nassr is a pretty strong competitor for Al-Ittihad Club in the race for the trophy next season.

Yeah, Ronaldo was the first player that attracted the other European players to have that mindset on playing in SPL. Benzema did a sharp move and I know that he will bring more people to stay more focus on SPL. Ronaldo and Benzema are two world great players that have won good amount of trophies,this will even attract more professional players to see SPL and a league that will be a honour for them to play in. One beautiful thing is that they will appreciate your quality with a huge sum of money that most players will be tempted of.

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