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June 24, 2023, 06:14:55 AM
Really how can anyone think that this doesn't play a role in their mind? It is not worth a discussion you say. I mean how can I say you are wrong if that is your opinion and you are also not forced to take part in such a discussion either, but they know what they are doing and their vision is now 2030, but it goes beyond that. Since soccer is the national #1 sport, how would it be surprising to anyone if they use their money to build a "Champions League of Champions Leagues", as was written in the article. If I had to make a guess I would say yes, they will one day try to build a Super League.

Sorry for my previous response, mate. I thought what you said was not sourced, but apparently rumors about it have even been published in digital media. That means, it's true that it's possible in the future we'll see a very super league, beyond the club world cup which brings together Champions League winners from each continent. Let's see how they move in the football industry, that's all we can do for now.
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June 24, 2023, 04:22:14 AM
Some allegations were going to the chelsea. It's caused by chelsea was selling so many players to the saudi clubs. We knew that if some super stars like kante, ziyech even koulibally have been going to the saudi pro league. The thing that surprises me if PIF also has enormous investment in clearke capital as a company that has been acquiring chelsea with todd boehly. It was making so many eyes are paying more attention to the chelsea.

Some parties were accusing chelsea of selling so many players to the saudi clubs to avoid sanctions caused by spending so much money last season. So far, there's no statement came from EPL regarding this but is it mean that chelsea was also under PIF as well?

That's interesting to know more.
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June 24, 2023, 04:16:25 AM
maybe in these 2 seasons the Saudi League attracts attention but remember the Chinese League first did it a few grace ago and now almost all clubs in the league are experiencing financial problems, well this is what I'm worried about the Saudi League because maintaining consistency is certainly not easy. Imagine if more than 20 European top players joined here and they had to prepare all salaries, can they survive?
Currently, Saudi League's promoter's first target is having huge influence for their campaign which is going for the 2030 world cup and if they are able to have this surely things could be on their best for next one decade, and they will be not go down just because of finances because they could be having billions of $ for this all from their government which is having huge sources and their market is also much stable for handling this all.

But in case, they fail in their target then surely still game could be in their court, and they will be able to extend this all for few more years and this all will be enough for having good influence because they're already having huge investments in European clubs, and now they are having good experience about this all China is completely different market and have no competition with this market.
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June 24, 2023, 03:56:48 AM
Yes, now the Arabs have managed to have several very developed sports and they have proven to the world that Arabs can keep up with European developments in sports.
Football is the most important there because by developing football as well as possible, a country can have quite large assets.
To be honest, I myself am amazed by the development of Arab football in recent years, they even have plans to establish a big league like the Champions League.

With the signing of this star player, it will be an attraction for people to start to like the Saudi League.
The Arabs have started the race to compete with other league like the EPL and the rest interesting leagues by starting with hosting the world cup, and after that,they have started buying classic players from different clubs to make this happen. I know that the Arabs now have much interest in football,and with money you can get what you want. We saw this in EPL,after the Arab brothers bought Manchester City,the club performance is outstanding. The recent one is Newcastle.

I have already started liking SPL,after Ronaldo was signed and it was indeed an advantage for them to use him to achieve their plans. Next season we will see more players in SPL because players loves a club that has the highest bidder,and these Arabs are fucking rich and can pay any amount just to bring a player down to their league. Soon SPL will be very competitive.
You are right and after the World Cup which was held with hosts Qatar, the good developments for Saudi football have started until now even though before the World Cup Saudis had also made some developments but what began to appear significant was after the Qatar World Cup.
Football is a sport that has the most fans in all corners of the world and watching a team match with pride is an extraordinary pleasure and satisfaction.

It's the same with me who started liking the Saudi League when Ronaldo joined Club Al-Nassr FC.
Ronaldo brought big changes to the Saudi League because it was thanks to him that many people started to like the Saudi League.
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June 24, 2023, 01:46:54 AM
The Arabs have started the race to compete with other league like the EPL and the rest interesting leagues by starting with hosting the world cup, and after that,they have started buying classic players from different clubs to make this happen. I know that the Arabs now have much interest in football,and with money you can get what you want. We saw this in EPL,after the Arab brothers bought Manchester City,the club performance is outstanding. The recent one is Newcastle.

I have already started liking SPL,after Ronaldo was signed and it was indeed an advantage for them to use him to achieve their plans. Next season we will see more players in SPL because players loves a club that has the highest bidder,and these Arabs are fucking rich and can pay any amount just to bring a player down to their league. Soon SPL will be very competitive.
Even this all is off-topic but still I will give credit for this all to the UAE and Dubai ruler Sheikh Mohammad Bin Rashid which started this all and now all Arab region is following with their sources and having one of the best technology and available things for themselves he jumps into horse racing they are having one of the biggest event in Dubai after this Qatar jumps and having soccer world cup now it's time for biggest Arab kingdom to have his contribution in this all with their own style, and they jump into soccer with huge investment which are going to give them good advantage.

This is early stage of this all and as they have vision of 2030 hopefully we will have Billions of USD investments like Qatar done for the just one event, but Saudis will be done with their all structure and system which will help them for staying in competition for the long time.

Right now we have nearly more than one dozen stars which are in negotiating with Saudi clubs for their participation into this league hopefully many will be in and have their best contribution which will bring good attraction for the millions of fans and new investments with right now mostly are controlled by few but in coming years this all will be under new owners which will do their best for increase in quality and performance of their clubs.
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June 24, 2023, 12:12:37 AM
Yes maybe in these 2 seasons the Saudi League attracts attention but remember the Chinese League first did it a few grace ago and now almost all clubs in the league are experiencing financial problems, well this is what I'm worried about the Saudi League because maintaining consistency is certainly not easy. Imagine if more than 20 European top players joined here and they had to prepare all salaries, can they survive?
I don't really know the Chinese League back then and now there are a lot of financial problems in every club, but this will be a little different with the Saudi Professional League they might have prepared everything even though there are many who speculate it won't last long maybe only a few seasons because those who come to Saudi Professional The League has old players, so I think we will enjoy watching the SPL match, how famous this league will be and if it lasts long, of course they have maintained their consistency, remember you don't need to think about the salaries of the players, every club must have a big budget.
I'm speculating this is only being done until the announcement of which country will be selected for the 2030 world cup, and after that spending ridiculous money every season isn't a good thing even though they are known as a rich oil country but spending money without getting any commensurate returns is it a business? I do not think so.
From what they have done, clubs in Europe seem to understand how to take advantage of this opportunity by offering their players like what Chelsea did, Chelsea has certainly released several of its players into this league, a smart move from Chelsea because they really want to release some of their players and profitable for the Arab club because some of the players are still in the 30-32 age range.
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June 23, 2023, 11:25:14 PM

It is no longer a secret that the main reason why so many European players are going to the Saudi Arabian League is because of the fact that that it offers huge financial rewards and also guarantees that the players will fall back to their acquired wealth whenever they retire from football.
The Saudi clubs aren't majorly concerned about the financial weight that these deals seems to possess, they just want to get this European players signed so their influence can make the league more global and competitive

It was never a secret and everyone knows the mains reason for most of the players when joining the Arabian team at the end of their career is the better money they can earn on these teams even the most famous players like Raul from Real Madrid and Xavi from Barcelona played in the Arabian teams. However, these two players both joined the Qatari teams but the Saudi teams can even have a better situation financially.
That's for real, most of the players who had been playing for European Leagues prioritise the Arabian league for the money involved. More popular players were brought into the league. The Saudi Arabia Pro League teams were making use of the opportunity, which means the financial situation of some teams were really down and Saudi Arabia Pro League teams were doing great signing players from those teams.
After Ronaldo, many European players joined the Saudi League at the end of their careers. Since the Saudi leagues have started taking European players into their leagues for money, I think we will see many young players join the Saudi leagues for money. If many famous stars can join their league then the popularity of their league will increase a lot as the popularity of the league will increase and their league will be respected by various European leagues. Now maybe many players are being offered from Saudi League but most of the players are rejecting those offers one of the reasons is that the Saudi League has not come much into the spotlight yet. But if every year like this they can get players from European clubs then their league will be at a better level.
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June 23, 2023, 11:23:36 PM
I don't think finances are a problem because indeed the club owners in the Saudi Professional League really have quite capable wealth. Apart from that, they have succeeded in recruiting a number of world superstars, of course because they are serious about building the football industry by carrying out "Vision 2030" to make the country an attractive place for tourists. The presence of the world's top footballers is expected to be one of the drivers of Saudi Arabia's popularity.
I believe Saudi Arabia have better plans for their domestic Saudi Professional League than China with Chinese League years ago. I believe the Vision 2030 is key for those clubs to start their ambitious transfers with those super star and star players from Europe. It started months ago after success of World Cup 2022 in Quatar and is continuing more seriously in this summer.

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The Public Investment Fund (PIF) is a foundation that manages Saudi Arabia's wealth. Through PIF they build a more advanced football industry project and maybe it will make the Saudi League the best competition in the world.
PIF have more ambitious plan than Chinese League and the 2030 Vision is far than only football development for Saudi Arabia. They know that their country can not solely rely on income from natural gas, fuel forever. They must build up more infrastructures for their countries, from education, sports to other areas. Like with Blockchain industry, we see Middle East as a hub of this industry last 5 years.

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In contrast to the Chinese Super League, whose popularity only lasted temporarily. But I see PIF has a long term target and also they are very strong financially. It's not easy to recruit Cristiano Ronaldo and a number of other world stars, they certainly have thought very carefully when making that decision. I see the Saudi Professional League has a different way to what the Chinese Super League has done.
Problems with Chinese Super League is they only bought average players, not star and super star players. Quality of players bought by Chinese Super League clubs are lower than Cristiano Ronaldo, Benzema and Kante. At beginning Saudi Professional League clubs look to have a better approach. They are using their money more wisely than clubs from China.
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June 23, 2023, 11:11:30 PM

I am on same for this right now their first goal is attracted fans and players from the world with their available sources and this is not difficult for them with their huge funds which are available and in last few years we have big changes in Saudi culture as well which is also having big impact on this all as well even we have no challenge for the European leagues but still with their salary system and influence things could be impressive in coming years and for this all their main goal is attracting world for their bid 2030 World Cup.

In first phase they have only Cristiano Ronaldo, and now they are bringing many other stars even we have few rumors about few big names are in their radar after failure of Messi contact, and they can do this all because they have enough power and money in their wallets.

Yes maybe in these 2 seasons the Saudi League attracts attention but remember the Chinese League first did it a few grace ago and now almost all clubs in the league are experiencing financial problems, well this is what I'm worried about the Saudi League because maintaining consistency is certainly not easy. Imagine if more than 20 European top players joined here and they had to prepare all salaries, can they survive?
I don't think finances are a problem because indeed the club owners in the Saudi Professional League really have quite capable wealth. Apart from that, they have succeeded in recruiting a number of world superstars, of course because they are serious about building the football industry by carrying out "Vision 2030" to make the country an attractive place for tourists. The presence of the world's top footballers is expected to be one of the drivers of Saudi Arabia's popularity.


The Public Investment Fund (PIF) is a foundation that manages Saudi Arabia's wealth. Through PIF they build a more advanced football industry project and maybe it will make the Saudi League the best competition in the world. In contrast to the Chinese Super League, whose popularity only lasted temporarily. But I see PIF has a long term target and also they are very strong financially. It's not easy to recruit Cristiano Ronaldo and a number of other world stars, they certainly have thought very carefully when making that decision. I see the Saudi Professional League has a different way to what the Chinese Super League has done.
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June 23, 2023, 08:58:10 PM

It is no longer a secret that the main reason why so many European players are going to the Saudi Arabian League is because of the fact that that it offers huge financial rewards and also guarantees that the players will fall back to their acquired wealth whenever they retire from football.
The Saudi clubs aren't majorly concerned about the financial weight that these deals seems to possess, they just want to get this European players signed so their influence can make the league more global and competitive

It was never a secret and everyone knows the mains reason for most of the players when joining the Arabian team at the end of their career is the better money they can earn on these teams even the most famous players like Raul from Real Madrid and Xavi from Barcelona played in the Arabian teams. However, these two players both joined the Qatari teams but the Saudi teams can even have a better situation financially.
Some of them, of course, want to end their career to get a bigger salary at an increasingly old age like benzema where he is already 35 years old and most likely he will be able to play for the next 3 seasons before choosing to retire. And there are also other things like Kante where he rarely gets minutes to play because the coach prefers other players while at Chelsea and that is also a strong reference if they want to play full time by joining a Saudi Arabian club and plus a higher salary.

Teams from Saudi Arabia have considerable strength in terms of their finances so they are the best league at the Asian level right now because there are many star players playing there.
Benzema's decision was quite clear by joining Al-Ittihad and so was what Kante did to be able to get more playing minutes after leaving Chelsea. Actually the two players have conditions that are not much different, from Benzema maybe he can still stay at Real Madrid until his contract ends, but he is very aware of player regeneration and he has to give up this place early.

Meanwhile, Kante may be more into fitness because even after recovering from injury he is well aware that his performance has also decreased and than at Chelsea he rarely starts as a starter, it is better for him to join Al-Ittihad which will clearly provide regular minutes and also a very high salary for his retirement. . Certainly now the Saudi league will begin to be noticed by many people and the broadcasting rights to the league will certainly be a bone of contention for TV channels in each country.
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June 23, 2023, 06:54:15 PM

It is no longer a secret that the main reason why so many European players are going to the Saudi Arabian League is because of the fact that that it offers huge financial rewards and also guarantees that the players will fall back to their acquired wealth whenever they retire from football.
The Saudi clubs aren't majorly concerned about the financial weight that these deals seems to possess, they just want to get this European players signed so their influence can make the league more global and competitive

It was never a secret and everyone knows the mains reason for most of the players when joining the Arabian team at the end of their career is the better money they can earn on these teams even the most famous players like Raul from Real Madrid and Xavi from Barcelona played in the Arabian teams. However, these two players both joined the Qatari teams but the Saudi teams can even have a better situation financially.
Some of them, of course, want to end their career to get a bigger salary at an increasingly old age like benzema where he is already 35 years old and most likely he will be able to play for the next 3 seasons before choosing to retire. And there are also other things like Kante where he rarely gets minutes to play because the coach prefers other players while at Chelsea and that is also a strong reference if they want to play full time by joining a Saudi Arabian club and plus a higher salary.

Teams from Saudi Arabia have considerable strength in terms of their finances so they are the best league at the Asian level right now because there are many star players playing there.
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June 23, 2023, 06:50:22 PM

It is no longer a secret that the main reason why so many European players are going to the Saudi Arabian League is because of the fact that that it offers huge financial rewards and also guarantees that the players will fall back to their acquired wealth whenever they retire from football.
The Saudi clubs aren't majorly concerned about the financial weight that these deals seems to possess, they just want to get this European players signed so their influence can make the league more global and competitive

It was never a secret and everyone knows the mains reason for most of the players when joining the Arabian team at the end of their career is the better money they can earn on these teams even the most famous players like Raul from Real Madrid and Xavi from Barcelona played in the Arabian teams. However, these two players both joined the Qatari teams but the Saudi teams can even have a better situation financially.
That's for real, most of the players who had been playing for European Leagues prioritise the Arabian league for the money involved. More popular players were brought into the league. The Saudi Arabia Pro League teams were making use of the opportunity, which means the financial situation of some teams were really down and Saudi Arabia Pro League teams were doing great signing players from those teams.
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June 23, 2023, 06:41:26 PM

It is no longer a secret that the main reason why so many European players are going to the Saudi Arabian League is because of the fact that that it offers huge financial rewards and also guarantees that the players will fall back to their acquired wealth whenever they retire from football.
The Saudi clubs aren't majorly concerned about the financial weight that these deals seems to possess, they just want to get this European players signed so their influence can make the league more global and competitive

It was never a secret and everyone knows the mains reason for most of the players when joining the Arabian team at the end of their career is the better money they can earn on these teams even the most famous players like Raul from Real Madrid and Xavi from Barcelona played in the Arabian teams. However, these two players both joined the Qatari teams but the Saudi teams can even have a better situation financially.
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June 23, 2023, 04:29:51 PM

But one thing most young players don't understand is the resultant effect of leaving Europe football.  No matter the number of top European players moving to the SPL,  Europe football remains the best. Based on its standard, it adds faster to the lives of young players than the SPL which is restrictions and rules-based. Only but few will happily come to buy you Back in the SPL cuz they will feel u have a drop in worth/Value
I have been hearing this argument for quite some time now and I would like to disagree. For now, the European leagues (English Premier League, Bundesliga, Serie A, Eredivisie, Ligue 1, La Liga and Primeira Liga) remain as some of the top football leagues in the world. And that is definitely one of the reasons why younger players prefer to play in them. But you can't ignore the improvement made by non-European leagues such as the Saudi Professional League. My prediction is that within the next 5 years, SPL will attain the same quality as some of the top UEFA leagues.
There is no doubt right now as Saudi League clubs are attracting big players and investing huge funds things could be improved but still main soccer hub could be UEFA because they have much better structure and base for the youths and the system is also one of the best which is not comfortable for the other region because they have no base like UEFA.

As we have MLS and China Super League now Saudi League also could be attracted players and also give them the highest ever salaries but still if youths wants to have better technique and top class soccer they need to be stayed with European clubs even salaries could be not like we have in Saudi clubs one other reason is also conditions and living system is also not like we have in European countries as well.
It is no longer a secret that the main reason why so many European players are going to the Saudi Arabian League is because of the fact that that it offers huge financial rewards and also guarantees that the players will fall back to their acquired wealth whenever they retire from football.
The Saudi clubs aren't majorly concerned about the financial weight that these deals seems to possess, they just want to get this European players signed so their influence can make the league more global and competitive
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June 23, 2023, 04:19:40 PM
It is not about being better, it's about getting talked about and they are getting there. When you talk about football, you talk about Saudi league these days, they are really doing a big job without a doubt. I think it is a good thing for them too because if you consider the fact that Saudi league wasn't even on the map a year ago, and now they are talked about this much, it means that they are on the right track.

I didn't know about the owners as well, but like you said, as long as the presidents are different they will all try to beat each other and be the best team that owner has. With this much money they could have built a better team, but it wouldn't be talked about this much so it's not really a bad idea.


There are four clubs that were acquired recently by the company Public Investment Fund "PIF". and this company is under the auspices of Prince Mohammand bin Salman. PIF bought 75 percent of the shares of the four big Saudi clubs, with the remaining 25 percent owned by the respective club's non-profit organizations. but it seems, club management and so on are still managed by each club. thus, you can be sure that the competition competition will run naturally as usual. Even so, there are still various controversies that become pros and cons.
but this goal was carried out, it became a project for Saudi Arabia to develop their football. plus, targeting to host the 2030 world cup later.
well, rumor has it, Saudi withdrew from being the host because there were several candidates who were stronger to host than them. even so, I'm not sure that this rumor is true or not.

Speaking of the saudi pro league, so far at least this competition has caught the attention of many and especially after several top clubs signed other top players like Benzema. after that, several newcomers came to play in this competition. at least, what the Saudis are doing is one step on the right track. the impact, now they are the attention of the whole eye of the world. although, what they have done so far has not been enough to significantly improve the development of football. at least, it took several seasons or even more to be known by the wider community.
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June 23, 2023, 04:18:38 PM
I am on same for this right now their first goal is attracted fans and players from the world with their available sources and this is not difficult for them with their huge funds which are available and in last few years we have big changes in Saudi culture as well which is also having big impact on this all as well even we have no challenge for the European leagues but still with their salary system and influence things could be impressive in coming years and for this all their main goal is attracting world for their bid 2030 World Cup.

I didn’t know they were even bidden for 2030 World Cup already. This will look like a dream come true for them with the way they’re making big name in the football world. No one knew about Saudi league before now and they were not amongst the top rated leagues in the world but today there name is everywhere. Even the forum had to open a thread to discuss about that league today. I’m optimistic they’ll win the bid for the 2030 World Cup.

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In first phase they have only Cristiano Ronaldo, and now they are bringing many other stars even we have few rumors about few big names are in their radar after failure of Messi contact, and they can do this all because they have enough power and money in their wallets.

After they successfully signed Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi will just be a bonus to them if they’d sign him to make the league more interesting but signing Ronaldo was enough to get them the world attention they needed couple with the huge salary they give to their players especially the big players they sign from Europes. They’ve achieved what they needed, now Saudi league will continue to make name in the world of football.
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June 23, 2023, 03:23:19 PM
Yes maybe in these 2 seasons the Saudi League attracts attention but remember the Chinese League first did it a few grace ago and now almost all clubs in the league are experiencing financial problems, well this is what I'm worried about the Saudi League because maintaining consistency is certainly not easy. Imagine if more than 20 European top players joined here and they had to prepare all salaries, can they survive?
I don't really know the Chinese League back then and now there are a lot of financial problems in every club, but this will be a little different with the Saudi Professional League they might have prepared everything even though there are many who speculate it won't last long maybe only a few seasons because those who come to Saudi Professional The League has old players, so I think we will enjoy watching the SPL match, how famous this league will be and if it lasts long, of course they have maintained their consistency, remember you don't need to think about the salaries of the players, every club must have a big budget.
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June 23, 2023, 03:12:36 PM
Yes, after all the audience is only prioritizing entertainment and will not look further into who owns it. Even though it's true, knowing who owns it is also something that fans should be aware of, but not for all viewers. So, with the inclusion of many star players in the Saudi Professional League then of course, this league will also be a high topic of conversation. But I think it's only about the star players who play there, because that's the main thing that made the SPL famous at this moment.

It is true that some people don't care who the club owner they just want to support and watch their favorite team but from the other side sometimes has more than one club in one league can be a problem because they are considered to be able to manage the match and determine the winner, scandals like this occur in Serie A even more than once, the impact is that interest and trust will decrease in the league, but we hope that this kind of thing does not happen in the Saudi Professional League. What is clear next season will be more interesting than last season because this league brings more star players.
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June 23, 2023, 02:50:48 PM

I am on same for this right now their first goal is attracted fans and players from the world with their available sources and this is not difficult for them with their huge funds which are available and in last few years we have big changes in Saudi culture as well which is also having big impact on this all as well even we have no challenge for the European leagues but still with their salary system and influence things could be impressive in coming years and for this all their main goal is attracting world for their bid 2030 World Cup.

In first phase they have only Cristiano Ronaldo, and now they are bringing many other stars even we have few rumors about few big names are in their radar after failure of Messi contact, and they can do this all because they have enough power and money in their wallets.

Yes maybe in these 2 seasons the Saudi League attracts attention but remember the Chinese League first did it a few grace ago and now almost all clubs in the league are experiencing financial problems, well this is what I'm worried about the Saudi League because maintaining consistency is certainly not easy. Imagine if more than 20 European top players joined here and they had to prepare all salaries, can they survive?

China is a totally different ball game in regards to sports washing and soccer in general. Here it is the Saudi Arabian elite themselves who massively push this sport and pump their seemingly endless money into building a kind of network in the sports entertainment industry.

"Why Saudi Arabia can afford to play a long game in bid to control sport"

Soccer is only one piece of the puzzle, they are onto something much bigger and I am sure time will tell.
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June 23, 2023, 01:30:59 PM
I just found out that the four clubs are owned by the same company, it's no wonder the SPL looks like it's dominated by the same clubs. In addition, it turns out that Al-Ahli Saudi is currently in the second division of the saudi league, but they finished this season perfectly and next season they will return to the SPL again. Hopefully, SPL gets attention from the public, it is possible that it will also have an impact on the AFC Champions League and the clubs that are there.
But even so, for each club it is still held by each different club president. But with funding that is centered the same. one or two more seasons then I think SPL will be a League which will also be famous in Europe. Because even now European news media are also covering more and more of the Arab League on this one. Because there are more and more European star players joining Arab clubs. and this is indeed quite good news and makes the media that report about this matter more sought after at this time.
It is not about being better, it's about getting talked about and they are getting there. When you talk about football, you talk about Saudi league these days, they are really doing a big job without a doubt. I think it is a good thing for them too because if you consider the fact that Saudi league wasn't even on the map a year ago, and now they are talked about this much, it means that they are on the right track.

I didn't know about the owners as well, but like you said, as long as the presidents are different they will all try to beat each other and be the best team that owner has. With this much money they could have built a better team, but it wouldn't be talked about this much so it's not really a bad idea.


Yes, after all the audience is only prioritizing entertainment and will not look further into who owns it. Even though it's true, knowing who owns it is also something that fans should be aware of, but not for all viewers. So, with the inclusion of many star players in the Saudi Professional League then of course, this league will also be a high topic of conversation. But I think it's only about the star players who play there, because that's the main thing that made the SPL famous at this moment.
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