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legendary
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July 30, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
#92
Why are you trying to tell me that you are an old person?
NO, I'm saying that I dont want people to be pension slaves, and to pay into this pension ponzi scheme.

Its an evil thing to do with the old people.


What does this have to do with saving the earth or not?


If the pension system is eliminated, along with all other tax burden and regulations, we will have more money to invest into green technology.

Not to mention the elimination of welfare stops population growth, and there would be less polluters.

If all of our pollution stopped this instant, we might only save ourselves. It wouldn't save or destroy the planet.

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July 30, 2016, 05:15:28 PM
#91
Lemme explain it simply:

More capitalism, less socialism.


Only free market capitalism can save the Earth! Socialism destroys the human spirit and makes us all domesticated welfare slaves.
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July 30, 2016, 05:12:22 PM
#90
Why are you trying to tell me that you are an old person?
NO, I'm saying that I dont want people to be pension slaves, and to pay into this pension ponzi scheme.

Its an evil thing to do with the old people.


What does this have to do with saving the earth or not?


If the pension system is eliminated, along with all other tax burden and regulations, we will have more money to invest into green technology.

Not to mention the elimination of welfare stops population growth, and there would be less polluters.
legendary
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July 30, 2016, 05:07:05 PM
#89

Withing the recent few years, some 94 million people in America alone don't have jobs that they once had. Sure, some of them retired. So, how are they living today? Welfare, social security, or out in the woods. Notice that the bloated money system is about to collapse because even government can't keep giving people money for free forever. When the money system collapses, big business and the "robot factories" will go down with it.

So you think old people can't work? I'm not saying to start lifting weight, but there are lots of comfortable jobs for old people too.
Why are you trying to tell me that you are an old person?



Besides the pension system is a ponzi scheme and scam, there have been proven studies that people who don't have a goal in life die 20-30 years earlier.

The pension system makes you goal-less, domesticated slave that watches TV all day. It is a pretty evil thing to do with old people.

If they would start working and not going to pension, they would live 20-30 years more and would be much healtier.

I would not have to pay for forced pension scam, and the old people would be happy and healthy. WIN-WIN

What does this have to do with saving the earth or not?

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July 30, 2016, 05:00:14 PM
#88

Withing the recent few years, some 94 million people in America alone don't have jobs that they once had. Sure, some of them retired. So, how are they living today? Welfare, social security, or out in the woods. Notice that the bloated money system is about to collapse because even government can't keep giving people money for free forever. When the money system collapses, big business and the "robot factories" will go down with it.

So you think old people can't work? I'm not saying to start lifting weight, but there are lots of comfortable jobs for old people too.

Besides the pension system is a ponzi scheme and scam, there have been proven studies that people who don't have a goal in life die 20-30 years earlier.

The pension system makes you goal-less, domesticated slave that watches TV all day. It is a pretty evil thing to do with old people.

If they would start working and not going to pension, they would live 20-30 years more and would be much healtier.

I would not have to pay for forced pension scam, and the old people would be happy and healthy. WIN-WIN
legendary
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July 30, 2016, 04:59:12 PM
#87

That's great. Get out of the cities.

This doesn't speak to the point that volcanoes produce a lot more pollution than we could almost think of producing without nukes.

Cool

Ok if I get out, but what about the other people. I have to pay for their socialized healthcare if they get lungh problems.... All cities should start to become clean and more green.

I would not even mind if they would start banning cars, at least tons of accidents and pollution would be avoided.

The problem with car accidents is that its never the perpetrator that dies but the innocent pedestrian that is hit by them.

What about the volcanoes? What can you do against those? That seems a natural phenomena. Earth is an active system, and there is a giant metal ball in the middle that moves the molten lava and the pressure can come out in any volcanoe. There are even volcanoes starting to become active that wasnt active for thousands of years.

That's the point. We aren't strong enough as a people to save the earth or not. We don't even really understand how ecology operates yet. If we did, the weatherman would be way more accurate.

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July 30, 2016, 04:52:44 PM
#86
And that happened because of capitalism.

Yea sure it's capitalism thats the problem.

I no way or shape it's the socialized healthcare and the welfare state that subsidises mindless breeding, especially in less developed areas.
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July 30, 2016, 04:50:12 PM
#85

That's great. Get out of the cities.

This doesn't speak to the point that volcanoes produce a lot more pollution than we could almost think of producing without nukes.

Cool

Ok if I get out, but what about the other people. I have to pay for their socialized healthcare if they get lungh problems.... All cities should start to become clean and more green.

I would not even mind if they would start banning cars, at least tons of accidents and pollution would be avoided.

The problem with car accidents is that its never the perpetrator that dies but the innocent pedestrian that is hit by them.

What about the volcanoes? What can you do against those? That seems a natural phenomena. Earth is an active system, and there is a giant metal ball in the middle that moves the molten lava and the pressure can come out in any volcanoe. There are even volcanoes starting to become active that wasnt active for thousands of years.
legendary
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July 30, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
#84
Let the Allah solves it. He is being useless for a long time.

Jokes aside, this planet is too fucking crowded. And that happened because of capitalism. Or capitalism happened because of that. Whatever. Since we won't be able to kill Capitalism without reducing the number of people who live on earth, that's what we should aim for.

We need less people.
legendary
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July 30, 2016, 04:42:23 PM
#83

Most of the jobs are NOT done by robots. Consider Walmart and Target, a couple of the biggest employers in the world. No robots there, unless you consider that people are robots.

By time that people work online in a big way, nobody will need them for manufacturing or Walmart, because robots will do it all. The current ordering and processing part of Walmart and Target is large right now. And it has eliminated loads of jobs that used to be done by phone people. So, what else is there for the people? Nothing.

Nobody needs art; can't afford it anyway because of no job. Commerce doesn't manufacture anything; couldn't afford the products anyway because of no job.

Cool

They will be, factories are already automated (except for poor countries with slave labour).

Most jobs are in supermarkets, they will be automated too, as new Japanese robots become widespread in supermarkets.

We will see a job loss rate of 80-90% in the next 10-15 years, so they will either be on welfare or do some kind of work online.

Even stuff like basic income is getting traction. I would prefer if they would just eliminate income taxes and deregulate commerce to get back some jobs.
Withing the recent few years, some 94 million people in America alone don't have jobs that they once had. Sure, some of them retired. So, how are they living today? Welfare, social security, or out in the woods. Notice that the bloated money system is about to collapse because even government can't keep giving people money for free forever. When the money system collapses, big business and the "robot factories" will go down with it.



i do not trust government or god to improve or to protect the nature. i belive if i need to really save the world then its i who have to do the starting if i take some steps then i belive someone else will also follow me because we people always follow our surroundings actions

Technology is already taking  care of it, we see now cleaner cars being made, and power plants installing filters on their chimneys.

I just wish it would be faster, because too many people suffer from lungh problems.

All for nothing. More volcanic eruptions are making any car clean-up we do completely irrelevant.

Cool

Dont build cities near volcanoes. Most pollution is done from cars in the cities.

My neighbors are literally coughing like horses ,and they all have lungh problems. There is car dust on my window, I have to clean it every 2-3 days, because of the fucking cars. If I dont clean it every 2-3 days my window literally gets gray from the dust,and I cant see outside.

What do you think about that?

That's great. Get out of the cities.

This doesn't speak to the point that volcanoes produce a lot more pollution than we could almost think of producing without nukes.

Cool
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July 30, 2016, 04:31:32 PM
#82
A lot of flaws, in fact. And yes, individuals must solve it.
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July 30, 2016, 04:25:28 PM
#81

Most of the jobs are NOT done by robots. Consider Walmart and Target, a couple of the biggest employers in the world. No robots there, unless you consider that people are robots.

By time that people work online in a big way, nobody will need them for manufacturing or Walmart, because robots will do it all. The current ordering and processing part of Walmart and Target is large right now. And it has eliminated loads of jobs that used to be done by phone people. So, what else is there for the people? Nothing.

Nobody needs art; can't afford it anyway because of no job. Commerce doesn't manufacture anything; couldn't afford the products anyway because of no job.

Cool

They will be, factories are already automated (except for poor countries with slave labour).

Most jobs are in supermarkets, they will be automated too, as new Japanese robots become widespread in supermarkets.

We will see a job loss rate of 80-90% in the next 10-15 years, so they will either be on welfare or do some kind of work online.

Even stuff like basic income is getting traction. I would prefer if they would just eliminate income taxes and deregulate commerce to get back some jobs.

i do not trust government or god to improve or to protect the nature. i belive if i need to really save the world then its i who have to do the starting if i take some steps then i belive someone else will also follow me because we people always follow our surroundings actions

Technology is already taking  care of it, we see now cleaner cars being made, and power plants installing filters on their chimneys.

I just wish it would be faster, because too many people suffer from lungh problems.

All for nothing. More volcanic eruptions are making any car clean-up we do completely irrelevant.

Cool

Dont build cities near volcanoes. Most pollution is done from cars in the cities.

My neighbors are literally coughing like horses ,and they all have lungh problems. There is car dust on my window, I have to clean it every 2-3 days, because of the fucking cars. If I dont clean it every 2-3 days my window literally gets gray from the dust,and I cant see outside.

What do you think about that?
legendary
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July 30, 2016, 03:53:27 PM
#80
i do not trust government or god to improve or to protect the nature. i belive if i need to really save the world then its i who have to do the starting if i take some steps then i belive someone else will also follow me because we people always follow our surroundings actions

Technology is already taking  care of it, we see now cleaner cars being made, and power plants installing filters on their chimneys.

I just wish it would be faster, because too many people suffer from lungh problems.

All for nothing. More volcanic eruptions are making any car clean-up we do completely irrelevant.

Cool
legendary
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July 30, 2016, 03:51:44 PM
#79

So far, online doesn't build much of anything in reality. Online doesn't drive farm tractors, milk cows, harvest grain. It doesn't build cars, run factories, or manufacture the things we need and use in life. It doesn't drill for oil and then refine the oil.

Certainly computers are part of all these things, a little. But by the time that the things of life can be made mechanically, where we can all work at it over the Internet, the computers will be able to handle the whole process, and nobody will need us for anything online.

Of course, if we are not needed, we won't make money. If we don't make money, we won't buy products and services. If we don't buy, we won't need manufacturing. If we don't need manufacturing, the computers are shut down. We all go back to making things by hand, gardening for food, and moving out of the big cities to do it.

What? Okay, let's skip the online part, and move out of the cities without all that silly computerized manufacturing stuff being done in the first place. It's a waste of time.

Cool

Of course those jobs would either be done by robots or there will be 1-2% of the people who would do it.

I think 99% of the people will work online, in either web development, art, or some kind of commerce.

Most of the jobs are already being replaced by robots.

Most of the jobs are NOT done by robots. Consider Walmart and Target, a couple of the biggest employers in the world. No robots there, unless you consider that people are robots.

By time that people work online in a big way, nobody will need them for manufacturing or Walmart, because robots will do it all. The current ordering and processing part of Walmart and Target is large right now. And it has eliminated loads of jobs that used to be done by phone people. So, what else is there for the people? Nothing.

Nobody needs art; can't afford it anyway because of no job. Commerce doesn't manufacture anything; couldn't afford the products anyway because of no job.

Cool
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July 30, 2016, 01:31:24 PM
#78
i do not trust government or god to improve or to protect the nature. i belive if i need to really save the world then its i who have to do the starting if i take some steps then i belive someone else will also follow me because we people always follow our surroundings actions

Technology is already taking  care of it, we see now cleaner cars being made, and power plants installing filters on their chimneys.

I just wish it would be faster, because too many people suffer from lungh problems.
legendary
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July 30, 2016, 01:29:34 PM
#77
i do not trust government or god to improve or to protect the nature. i belive if i need to really save the world then its i who have to do the starting if i take some steps then i belive someone else will also follow me because we people always follow our surroundings actions
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July 30, 2016, 01:19:25 PM
#76

So far, online doesn't build much of anything in reality. Online doesn't drive farm tractors, milk cows, harvest grain. It doesn't build cars, run factories, or manufacture the things we need and use in life. It doesn't drill for oil and then refine the oil.

Certainly computers are part of all these things, a little. But by the time that the things of life can be made mechanically, where we can all work at it over the Internet, the computers will be able to handle the whole process, and nobody will need us for anything online.

Of course, if we are not needed, we won't make money. If we don't make money, we won't buy products and services. If we don't buy, we won't need manufacturing. If we don't need manufacturing, the computers are shut down. We all go back to making things by hand, gardening for food, and moving out of the big cities to do it.

What? Okay, let's skip the online part, and move out of the cities without all that silly computerized manufacturing stuff being done in the first place. It's a waste of time.

Cool

Of course those jobs would either be done by robots or there will be 1-2% of the people who would do it.

I think 99% of the people will work online, in either web development, art, or some kind of commerce.

Most of the jobs are already being replaced by robots.
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July 30, 2016, 01:46:00 AM
#75
I'm not sure about global warming, but pollution is definitely a problem.

The number of people with lungh diseases is growing exponentially, fuck everyone is coughing like some horse, the fucking auto gas is poisoning our lunghs.

There have always been fluctuations in warming and cooling of the surface of earth. But government wants us to believe that global warming is a big thing this time, even though the rate of warming has been reducing since about the year 2,000. Maybe cooling has even set in.

Government is run by the medical. The medical wants us to have lung disease, etc., so that they can treat us and make money. They promote the global warming idea through government so that they have an excuse to put the chemtrails up there - the chemtrails are supposed to stop global warming. But the "dust" of the chemtrails produces the lung problems, so that the medical gets more patients.

Cool
People, you are very wrong! The government is not favorable, that it would hurt people. Who then will work and fight? People do not know how to protect their health. Yes, pharmacologists, partly interested in the demand for their products. But they do not require that people seriously ill. Pharmacists and doctors are so clouded my mind that a healthy person would buy a lot of drugs.
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July 30, 2016, 01:32:40 AM
#74
Lord, all that you are now discussing, is a utopia. You can, of course at the time to admit that people give up their benefits and allow the general equality. But let then know. Why does the whole world was against communism ?! Wink Ideas of communism, lies in the fact that all are equal. There will be no rich and poor and will not need the money, everything will be free for all. But the whole world was against such rules. So why do you think that the world now agree to these rules?
legendary
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July 29, 2016, 08:17:07 PM
#73

You love your cities, don't you. If everyone spread out evenly over the whole planet, each person would have several square miles to himself, and nature would easily take care of any stray pollution.

Cool

Yes I agree, but that wont happen until we come up with online jobs and and online economy.

Currently all jobs are physical and are concentrated in cities. Once everyone will work from the internet, there will be no more need for cities.

So far, online doesn't build much of anything in reality. Online doesn't drive farm tractors, milk cows, harvest grain. It doesn't build cars, run factories, or manufacture the things we need and use in life. It doesn't drill for oil and then refine the oil.

Certainly computers are part of all these things, a little. But by the time that the things of life can be made mechanically, where we can all work at it over the Internet, the computers will be able to handle the whole process, and nobody will need us for anything online.

Of course, if we are not needed, we won't make money. If we don't make money, we won't buy products and services. If we don't buy, we won't need manufacturing. If we don't need manufacturing, the computers are shut down. We all go back to making things by hand, gardening for food, and moving out of the big cities to do it.

What? Okay, let's skip the online part, and move out of the cities without all that silly computerized manufacturing stuff being done in the first place. It's a waste of time.

Cool
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