Topic: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper - page 54. (Read 25881 times)

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Gigameg fail.

Craig did not have the million bitcoins because I am satoshi. Prove me wrong.

is there a million bitcoins at Wright - is unknown, but the fact that they were with he - 100%

he either lost his keys or came up with the illusion of Fund to protect himself from burglars

Thx man, IOW +sM

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"You may or may not be aware that Craig Wright, the Australian former pastor and polymath who claims to be bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto, is not only suing a bunch of people for saying he’s a fraud, but is also himself being sued for only being 50 per cent Satoshi (while the people who he’s suing believe he is zero per cent Satoshi).

The man suing Wright is Ira Kleiman, brother of the late Dave Kleiman, an American computer engineer who Ira says helped Wright invent bitcoin. Ira has argued that his brother’s stash of coins and his intellectual property rights were “seized” in a malicious scheme perpetrated by Wright after Dave’s death in 2013. He’s been suing Wright on behalf of Kleiman’s estate for half of the bitcoins that were apparently jointly mined by Wright and Kleiman (as “Satoshi”) between 2009 and 2011 — a stash of around 1 million bitcoins or around $10bn — as well as half of the IP.

Wright has denied the partnership, and has argued that all his bitcoins are tied up in the “Tulip Trust”, which he says he cannot decrypt until he gets access to the key from a bonded courier in January, 2020. (It’s literally like a scene from Back to the Future.)

It’s been a pretty interesting case to watch, given that most of the major players in bitcoinland think that Wright is a liar, and given Wright would have to produce some evidence to establish whether or not he was in fact a liar.

But it seems that he failed to produce any such evidence. And now, a US judge has decided that Wright is indeed a liar. And not only that, but a liar under oath — a perjurer!

On Tuesday, Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart produced a decidedly spicy court order:

Apparently, dead men tell no tales, but they (perhaps) send bonded couriers. See John Dryden, “The Spanish Fryar or The Double Discovery”, Act IV, Scene 1 (1681) (“there is a Proverb, I confess, which says, That Dead men tell no Tales.”). I completely reject Dr. Wright’s testimony about the alleged Tulip Trust, the alleged encrypted file, and his alleged inability to identify his bitcoin holdings.

The evidence establishes that (Wright) has engaged in a willful and bad faith pattern of obstructive behavior, including submitting incomplete or deceptive pleadings, filing a false declaration, knowingly producing a fraudulent trust document, and giving perjurious testimony at the evidentiary hearing.

The order came less than two weeks after District Court Judge Beth Bloom said in a court order that Wright had “failed to present credible evidence”. While Judge Reinhart was compelled to turn to tragicomedy in his order, Judge Bloom turned to poetry, quoting Walter Scott: “Oh! What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.”

Judge Reinhart establishes in his order that, for the purposes of the case, “Dr. Wright and David Kleiman entered into... 50/50 partnership to develop Bitcoin intellectual property and to mine bitcoin”; that “any Bitcoin-related intellectual property developed by Dr. Wright prior to David Kleiman’s death was property of the partnership”; that “all bitcoin mined by Dr. Wright prior to David Kleiman’s death (“the partnership’s bitcoin”) was property of the partnership when mined”; and that “plaintiffs presently retain an ownership interest in the partnership’s bitcoin, and any assets traceable to them”.

What the order does not establish is whether or not Wright was indeed Satoshi — either part of him, or all of him. It also doesn’t establish whether Wright has the $10bn in bitcoin that he says he has. In fact the order explicitly says:

...the Court is not required to decide, and does not decide, whether Defendant Dr. Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto, the inventor of the Bitcoin cybercurrency. The Court is also not required to decide, and does not decide, how much bitcoin, if any, Dr. Wright controls today.

But of course, that didn’t stop Team Craigtoshi from saying that this was an endorsement of Wright’s claims to be Satoshi, just like a registration with the US Copyright Office was an official “recognition”. Online gambling tycoon and Bitcoin SV shill Calvin Ayre took to Twitter on Wednesday:


The other thing that the judge did not do — though this has been very widely reported, was order Wright to hand over half his stash. The case is actually not over yet. We called up Stephen Palley, a Washington, DC-based lawyer who specialises in all things blockchain and crypto, to get clarification on this.

He said to say Wright had been ordered to pay up $5bn was incorrect, and that the case could drag on for another six months to a year. He did add, however:

I view this case as being over. When you have two federal judges that have said you’re a ducking [sic] liar, you’re not going to win.

Palley said it was extremely unlikely now that the case would go to trial, and that it would instead probably be resolved by a “summary judgment” — a court decision that at full trial is not necessary, so essentially a trial on paper — and that Wright was highly likely to lose.

We also got in touch with Wright’s people to ask for comment, and were directed towards an interview Wright gave to Modern Consensus on Monday, after the initial recommendation in court.

It seems that the interviewer, Brendan Sullivan — a man who recently penned a piece entitled “New Prime Minister Boris Johnson needs to turn to crypto before the EU turns on him”, arguing that BoJo “could ease Britain’s currency crisis by investing in cross-border crypto payments such a Facebook’s Libra” (ahem) — is a long-term fan of Wright. At one point he says:

I know people think you’re a miserable pr**k. But you once told me that you and your wife had decided that this $10 billion fortune was too much. You said you worried about what it would do for your kids.

To which Wright responds:

It’s f***ing scary. Now the kids are going to know that we have the other $5 billion. And it really sucks. Imagine that (laughs). I had planned to live a long time and hopefully they wouldn’t know until they were older and we were gone. It could affect their whole lives.

A strange concern for Wright, particularly given that he told all of us at Vaudeville — or #ftalphavillepresentsvaudevillethefyrefestivaloffinance — last month that he was going to give away an $8bn bitcoin stash (at then-current market rates) to charity, which was widely reported, by publications including Calvin Ayre’s own Coingeek. Surely this is not, then, a revelation for his kids? We presume that Wright still intends to give away the other few billion, so why will this affect their whole lives?

But anyway. Either Wright is only half of Satoshi and the world’s poor are only going to get a few billion because the Kleimans are going to get the rest, or Wright is the whole Satoshi but the world’s poor are still only going to get a few billion because US courts don’t believe in Wright, OR the world’s poor are not about to be given any number of billions of dollars, because Wright’s not Satoshi and doesn’t have $8bn, or $10bn for that matter. Who knows??

Either way, seems like the life of Craigtoshi has the makings of a West End musical one day. Or at least a Netflix series. Oh. "

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Sure Hal Finney didn't come close to fraudtoshi ? ROLFCopter

Nick Szabo doesn't either ? ROLFCopter bis

I've not seen any evidence that CSW was even aware of Bitcoin prior to 2013. Do you have any that wasn't supplied (or 'leaked') by CSW himself?

Yep - put some probability numbers behind CSW and DK , their skills, their interests and what only CSW is able to Report from the beginnings, and they are both quite likely Satoshi.
No other comes  close to that probability - trolls just getting pissed, cause CSW wanna destroy their anno sefgork tool - sorry

You're linking a year and a half old article to tell us what we already know. Not only are there no bitcoins in the trust, there never was any trust to begin with. At least not while Kleiman was still alive. At least it appears you're finally accepting the reality of the situation, even if in your own weird and roundabout way.


Oh, nevermind, you're not. Its all a conspiracy to avoid "guys with soldering irons" and you learned nothing. That makes more sense.

there are no bitcoins in the trust

https://blog.wizsec.jp/2018/02/kleiman-v-craig-wright-bitcoins.html?m=1

if they were, he would keep quiet about it because such owners are hunted by guys with soldering irons

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2019/08/27/1566922213000/He-s-not-Satoshi--he-s-a-very-naughty-boy/

USDT will want

What large block ? Last BSV block size in Kb, 3blocks are larger than a floppy disk size

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Nobody wants to fill the useless BSV gigameg blocks.

Large blocks this is very important, Vitalik is already sounding the alarm, USDT consumes 90% of network resources, BSV will soon come to help

Kleiman was a long-time member of the same Metzdowd Cryptography mailing list where Satoshi Nakamoto first announced Bitcoin on Oct. 31, 2008.

I'm intrigued as to where he dug him up from. Presumably he must have had some awareness of his conventional security work. His demise and background fit the narrative he wanted to push very neatly, at the start at least.

There is nothing pointing towards Dave Kleiman, besides Craig's forged documents. Craig brought him up in an interview with Gizmodo (in 2015).

Of course. Let's not forget that it serves CSW's claim to be Satoshi in his wrangles with the ATO over the money they say he scammed from them which was entirely predicated on his supposed significant bitcoin holdings. As long as he is being accused of stiffing someone out of billions of dollars-worth of bitcoins then he can pretend like he had those coins at some point and so totally didn't defraud the ATO out of millions of dollars several years ago.

As an asides from the circus surrounding the million+ bitcoin which we know he doesn't have and, also, that there's no reason to believe he was even aware of bitcoin until a few years after its inception, has there been any evidence presented which would even support Dave Kleiman as being Satoshi?

It suited CSW to convince the world that he and Dave were 'Satoshi' because then he got to contrive the extraordinary tale of the 'Tulip Trust' holding the keys to over a million BTC and, hopefully, get the ATO off his back. But if you remove all the falsified 'evidence' what are you left with to even propose that Dave Kleiman may have been SN?

Not true. We've been over this already in 2 other threads. Kleinman estate gets all forks.



Here's a breakdown of the judge's findings released yesterday, I'm cross-posting this from the BSV thread:


"some bitcoin" =/ "Satoshi's bitcoin"


So, let's break down what the court ruled is true vs. what is bullshit.

Craig and Dave had bitcoins: true.
Tulip Trust: bullshit.
Private keys in Shamir's scheme: bullshit.
Craig doesn't know what a public address is: bullshit.


drug dealers and human traffickers using bitcoin in 2010: bullshit.
Craig doesn't know what bitcoin he mined: bullshit.
his whole story: bullshit.


Summary: Craig is a liar.


Summary: The judge is basically calling Craig a fraud at this point. No wonder Peter McCormack is pretty happy about the outcome.


Summary: again, the Tulip Trust is utter bullshit. There are no coins. There is no trust.


Summary: again, Shamir's scheme is utter bullshit. There is no encrypted file and no private keys.


Summary: Craig's lawyers did the best they could despite Craig insisting on fucking them and himself over.


Summary: ouch.