Topic: [SCAM] Foxminers? - page 4. (Read 26929 times)

The SCAM is still going strong: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170516005702/en/FoxMiners-Pre-order-Period-Closes-Units-Ready-Delivery

If i say no would you remove it from fb?

actually any windows os (xp, vista, 8.x, 7 not sure about 10) can get hit if they are not patched. ms patched it in march but we all know how well typical users patch stuff up

I published your article on the FB page
https://www.facebook.com/Scam-waring-Foxminer-121513041746669/
hope this is okay for you.
On my requests when the withdrawal of the ordered and paid Miner starts I get for days no more answer.
I reporting to the police last week.
If someone still has tips what you can still do, please also write on the Fb page https://www.facebook.com/Scam-waring-Foxminer-121513041746669/

***  Foxminers LLC is a SCAM! If someone buys their miners without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting hold of one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***
Don't know how I missed this:
https://news.bitcoin.com/alleged-mining-manufacturer-foxminers-accused-scam/
May 1st. Good Article.

EDIT: In light of the WannaCry worm, even though so far it can only hit XP systems I must STRONGLY SUGGEST that when visiting scam or possible scam sites:
A) Close your browser and reopen it in Private Mode. Be sure that your Private Mode does not allow saving data/cookies/anything!
B) TURN OFF all Java/Active-X functions
C) TURN OFF Flash
D) TURN OFF all animation
When done of course clear all History's, cookies, etc. before closing the Private browser.

So far all initial infections have been on XP systems that visited a hacked website. As part of the 'normal' website activities allowed by XP and Active-X, the worm was let in.

Guys, fear not this miner.

Apparently, you can buy one for any amount you want. Here's a sample link if you proceed to purchase:

https://foxminers.com/payment/?product=Rack%20F48%20x%205&price=22500.00&quantity=1&discount=90&email=shit@yourass.shit


Note that the price (=22500.00) and discount (=0) are all plain text WOW GIFT!

So if you change the url to use, say 2.00 for price, um, you can buy it for $2, that's what you pay for your coffee plus donut every freaking morning!

Not satisfied?! Give your self a discount, say 90 (%), ok you can have it now for $0.2.

Want more fun?

how about F5 ten times so our dear fox supplier gets 10 orders to work on

***  Foxminers LLC is a SCAM! If someone buys their miners without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***
No, that is a PAID-FOR PR release. Not to mention an old one...
I highly doubt that they have taken in anything remotely close to that from suckers who may fall for this SCAM.

Very few internet 'news outlets' actually verify anything anymore and at least in the crypto-coin world most never ever have. Pay them the $40 and they will print anything as 'news'.

The scam seems to work.

http://www.wallstreet-online.de/nachricht/9538489-foxminers-has-crossed-the-20-million-mark-pre-order-for-its-f24-and-f48-miners

Yeah, I'm done posting any more analysis, could be just helping them learn.

So the presale for foxminers is over. They must start sending the miners now.  SCAM SCAM SCAM

Looks like they change their btc adress every few days. Luckily the new one haven't received anything https://blockchain.info/address/1GgxKViZqPZtSeZpRQz24W18qCwNiP8T3v

Interesting that their site is hosted in Quebec and they use a name server located in France. Trying to make it harder for US law enforcement to seize their records? That is assuming the Authorities somewhere ever goes after them.

I was looking at several new types of aggregators today for easier research.  Check it out.  https://foxminers.com.cutestat.com/  Note there is a comment box.  I'm tired or I would have left the first one, going to bed.

I live in Egypt and saw the add back then on coingecko.com with the added disclaimer
went to their site bought one just to see the payment methods page and guess what only bitcoin or litecoin, closed my laptop and went to sleep just to wake up again on an INTERNATIONAL CALL from them asking me to complete the payment << Who does that ?!! >>
He was definitely an African American guy with a gangsters ghetto way of talking (I'm Not a racist, I'm just profiling)
Hope i helped.

Yeppers, but walking down memory lane is a nice way to quickly figure out if you are talking to children or not on the intertube, especially when anonymity is in play.  Important if you aren't just goofing around, but really want to get a read on something you don't consider yourself knowledgeable about to make an educated guess.

Forums are a good way to get better consensus on what to look at if you need to dig deeper, once you look at posters rep various ways and actually read stuff.
Part of the teaching yourself to fish process for me.  

When you believe you don't know enough to make your own guess in a vacuum, googling always produces the same answers to your question, YES and NO.

Just went through the same process on a herbicide question the other day, a dishwasher soap question a while back, I could probably list for years.  Those were easier because they weren't as complex or controversial or related to large sums of wealth\poverty for me, and the tube is not quite as filled with herbicide and soap trolls.

I don't need to flowchart that easier stuff to make a decision, which I can usually hit in 5-10 minutes, I just google and do it in my head.  I have to flowchart and document more complex and higher importance things just for myself sometimes.  My crypto trading\withdrawal\hedge\long hodl\short hodl\strategy activities are still on a giant pile of scribblies atm but has to happen soon.  That's about prioritization really, my list of high importance stuff is quite long right now, so I round robin through everything so nothing busts completely while I focus on one thing to the end.  But my crypto trading documentation has to get all pretty enough for my wife to follow soon or she will probably kill me.  She sees a bunch of money moving around in many accounts once a week when she does our books, and answering 50 why questions from her every Saturday is getting tiresome for both of us.

Everything leads back to trust.  My big mistake here was just opening my trap too soon without rep.  I do that sometimes just like I speak before thinking sometimes.  Not often, but it happens.

I just got a funny surprise, the guy that encouraged me to buy my first bitcoin hasn't logged in here since 2014, and I can't raise him on other channels though I've been trying for months.  At least I got a thirdhand confirm he isn't dead.  I suspect he's just gone deep and quiet, he was pretty early in and is probably just enjoying his private island.

Foxminers is a SCAM SCAM SCAM.

***  Foxminers LLC is a SCAM! If someone buys their miners without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***Since sorta walking down memory lane but at least keeping this SCAM thread at the top for the perps to fret over, what the heck. If it costs them losing even 1 sale it is worth it. There. It's on-topic again

2112 you hit on soooo many good points. If you catch my other posts in other threads ya may have noticed I take the 'Teach a person to fish' approach to answering questions. LEARN folks! Don't just raise yer hand to get one specific answer, learn the why and ta-dum! things start to connect..

Again my profession isn't CS, since 1977 it has been design/application of industrial lasers. To me computers are just tools. Und damn we have come a long way from paper tape NC controls with literally relay based ladder logic...

The how/why knowledge of semiconductors themselves well, as a kid in late 50's was building vacuum tube toys and literally grew up tinkering with discrete transistors ect,, led to enlisting in the Air Force (dinna want to be drafted so choosing a service best option) > long haul microwave, ended up in the 1839 E&I Group out of Keesler AFB installing the gear for com sites- I tell ya, a tropo site is something to behold. Also most often on a tiny island in the middle of nowhere... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropospheric_scatter No large use of satellites back then. While in the military, got BS EE for the heck of it.

Out of the military -- moved up the spectrum into lasers and been there ever since. Only burnout was 2 years of 80hr weeks doing field service at my 1st company Photon Sources (now Lumonics). My instant 'In" with them was the multi-kw microwave power background and um, I had build a dye laser in Jr. high school. Another engineer there was tired of it as well so we started SLI http://www.synchronlaser.com/ and will be there until I die. When you love what you do it isn't work!

The laser biz is my link to wassup in the chip manufacturing world and a helluva lot of other industries. Pure how to make things. Comes with the turf: With bleeding-edge products intended to leapfrog how-things-are-done-today, the customer does not exactly know what they need for producing them, only what they want to produce. Guess who gets to figure out how to do it since no no one else has yet done it outside of a lab... 1st step - understanding to the nth detail what they make that requires - unique solutions -- vs off-the shelf so I can have a handle on how my systems may affect the desired result. For power chips it may only be an interposer/heat spreader but the dies care a great deal about their interface to it so understanding their construction is mandatory.

Damn this thread goes a'wandering...

Great point, not just about me.  To clarify I burnt out on CORPORATE IT.  I still love IT, but the corporate part was trying to kill that love, and my soul (or whatever)  Not really bitter, in 20/20 hindsight quitting jobs have been my best decisions ever.  I contracted for a while, and that was mostly great, but 2008 financial mess came along and I no longer had my pick of companies\jobs.  But life is change.

I'm not really a fanboi on anything, generally not an early adopter.  I like stuff that works, makes sense, has very few release bugs, and doesn't break easily.  Best tool for the job is my general strategy when I get to make the choice.

I did enjoy MVS, very much, but in hindsight the coolest thing to me about it was when they went OS/390, Z/OS, whatever with it, I don't remember how they did it exactly, but it impressed me.  I was busy working, but didn't have to change a thing, and like flipping on a light switch you could be in unix land if ya wanted.

Certainly some of the engineering school issues were my fault, but at that time they were just busy trying to push engineering cs people out the door due to high demand, and by the time I was done with my Bachelors business CS degree I realized the way that said education structure was structured prerequisite-wise didn't fit my learning style for sure (either track).  

IMO with the hindsight again they should teach Boolean logic in high school.  It ain't just for tech.  

Some days my mind is so open I don't get a thing done, prioritization is a must.

Thanks for the reply.

Ah! Greetings retired IBM-fanboi! In the IBM-universe I'm not a big MVS fan, I'm was more into running multiple copies of MFT or CMS under VM/370.

Let me start from the last paragraph. The reason I'm writing and responding to you is standard one for me: I know that for 1 poster here there are at least 10 readers who will read yours and mine posts with understanding. So when I'm personally addressing you (delicopsch56) it is more of a rhetorical device to address the plurality of you (named and unnamed readers of this thread).

In particular I'm writing for the benefit of young readers, who are still ahead in their life. They can still use their school time to "learn", not to "have fun". They can still avoid having "successful career" where maintaining employment was only possible with the help of regularly obliterating their own brain with alcohol (or other addictive substances or behaviors). I used to work in the entertainment industry and I can immediately recognize a bitter burnout. I've been on the meetings where people would small-talk about addiction rehab facilities like most of the employed people discuss vacation destinations.

There isn't much technical and mining-related to address in your reply. You've however very clearly and beautifully underlined the perils of technical fanboism. Most of the technical forums have fanboi discussion threads like Intel vs. AMD, ATI vs. NVidia, etc. delicopsch56 is an example of a dinosaur fanboi, from the days when various IBM-designed machines were bought under the assumption of "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM". IBM may even had "fastest horse" trophy for awhile, they still sell them under "z/Arch" moniker, but lots of people got fired for continuing to "buy IBM" where different, better, cheaper, faster solutions were available.

The simplest, easiest way to avoid burnout and being perpetually perplexed is to keep your mind open. Even if you don't have time or money to pursue a formal degree you can still greatly benefit from clicking around the "See Also" links in Wikipedia. And when you choose to "have fun", choose the activities that do as little as possible damage to your brain.

I want to personally "thank you" to all those people who gave the similar advice when I was young student in school. You most likely won't read it. All I can do repay it is to repeat it in an updated way, with modifications to match the changed technological landscape.

Don't mind MOST OF your reply much, actually.  No, I didn't have a horrible education, I opted out of CS in engineering school because I was cognizant that I was hitting a wall in hard engineering and wasn't trying hard enough in digital design, physics, calculus, etc, too busy having fun, and I had no $.  Reality check, almost everyone does hit a wall at some point where they realize they are just faking it if they continue to try to advance, learning how to do it pretty well but have stopped total comprehension.  

Did a different career for 5 years, went back and did CS business degree and had a very successful career in business software dev.  I pretty much quit giving a crap about hardware while mainframe programming for 13 years, because I was riding the fastest horse in the hardware world then, hardware not by me, but smokin hot MVS with serious capacity hardware for a many billions company and I focused on delivering high quality for my end users, and that went really well as I could actually communicate with them and deliver quickly and on target and with a low margin of error without 5 intermediaries like today's email writer management layers of bullshit overhead.

If ya saw no point, why did you reply? Did you read all my posts, or was it just time to be a dick to the new guy?

Well SCAM SCAM SCAM Foxminers SCAM SCAM SCAM have 3 days left then the presale is over