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Topic: [SCAM] Foxminers? - page 7. (Read 26961 times)

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May 02, 2017, 05:24:22 AM
https://trustednerd.com/2017/04/30/foxminers-has-crossed-the-20-million-mark-in-pre-order-for-its-f24-and-f48-miners/

Jonathan Yaniv is a name I keep seeing around here. Anybody can get more info on him? I think other PRs published by Foxminers were under his name. Might be an alias for Johnathan F, which is supposedly their sales guy.
vip
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May 01, 2017, 08:59:24 PM

Excellent review and investigation
Can you say something similar about the company UFOMINERS?
from Las Vegas? Are they scam or not? Since he contacted them and paid 20 BTC for the equipment. Track code dosih has not yet been received on the parcel, and the company itself once a week reports that it will be soon and the parcel will be at the customs in my country, and so it's almost a month instead of the promised 5 days.
There is a feeling that FOXMINERS is the reincarnation of the previous UFOMINERS because the subject matter of the sites is very similar.  It remains to only verify the number of purses for payment in the blockchain BTC.
Thank you for attention.
 Cool

UFOMINERS was a scam from day one.
UfoMainers scammers? It was clear from the first day?
Damn, but why did not I find any negative reviews and records about them from a month ago? I translated them 20 bitcoins and silence, no parcel
There is no government for them? Where to find them?
Has anyone dealt with this issue?
Tell me how to write a complaint on the form of IC3? Can it work?
THX...

Too bad you've only been involved in crypto since 2014 according to your Twitter account -https://twitter.com/VasilSopot/ - else you would've been able to recognize a scam from the get-go. Live and learn, I guess.
legendary
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May 01, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
One thing you can do to hurt them: go to every 'news' site that has their PR release and leave a comment telling everyone your story. Start with the word SCAM.

For sites like TheMerkel that DO expose these scams, leave a comment confirming the company is a scam and again your story as to why.

Speaking of the 'news' sites that blindly publish these paid-for Public Relations stories...
WTF is wrong with you folks? You think of yourselves as legitimate news sites?

You all have seen these scams many many times before so WHY to you publish these without doing a single bit of REAL journalism? You know -- checking into a company and their supposed Wonder of the Year miners to see if they are even real? Seems all these sites care about is if the scammers check cleared so they got paid  Angry

Tried that,the sites they picked to post on do not allow comments in any way......................................
legendary
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May 01, 2017, 07:18:43 PM
One thing you can do to hurt them: go to every 'news' site that has their PR release and leave a comment telling everyone your story. Start with the word SCAM.

For sites like TheMerkel that DO expose these scams, leave a comment confirming the company is a scam and again your story as to why.

Speaking of the 'news' sites that blindly publish these paid-for Public Relations stories...
WTF is wrong with you folks? You think of yourselves as legitimate news sites and yet blithely publish PR for what typically either screams SCAM or at a minimum is highly suspect to any person knowledgeable in crypto-coin hardware.?

You all have seen these scams many many times before so WHY to you publish these without doing a single bit of REAL journalism? You know -- checking into a company and their supposed Wonder of the Year miners to see if they are even real? Seems all these sites care about is if the scammers check cleared so they got paid  Angry
newbie
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May 01, 2017, 06:00:36 PM
LEO and FBI seem best case scenario at this point to me, especially since themerkle is local enough and is pretty torqued.  If you are in the US there are victim compensation funds for some crimes in at least some states if convicted criminally, but I don't know what crimes apply (maybe just violent) or the compensation that could be had.  FBI may not take it seriously enough due to low volume, they have scarce resources like everyone, and I imagine they are still quite busy with Nigerian Prince scams that have been debunked for an eon.

Worst case, as NotFuzzyWarm says very expensive lesson, possible tax deduction in the US.

Dammit, NEVER order presale anything without real serious terms and proof, people.  That right there is the best thing each individual consumer can do.
legendary
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May 01, 2017, 05:41:59 PM

UfoMainers scammers? It was clear from the first day?
Damn, but why did not I find any negative reviews and records about them from a month ago? I translated them 20 bitcoins and silence, no parcel
There is no government for them? Where to find them?
Has anyone dealt with this issue?
Tell me how to write a complaint on the form of IC3? Can it work?
THX...
1st, sorry to say but safe bet your BTC is gone forever...
2nd, how did you search? I just entered "UFOminers scam" and Goolge returned over 10 pages of links. 1st page of links are for Dec 2016 ....

The complaint form is for the Federal database of complaints against a company. Is the 1st step required if you try to sue them and/or have them prosecuted. If you do -- good luck. Be aware that YOU will have lawyer fees to pay. IF the people can be found/tried/convicted there remains the big IF and WILL they pay restitution.
legendary
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April 29, 2017, 12:00:28 PM
Here's the Google cached version, notfuzzywarm.  http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BineOLq6v1AJ:bitcoinist.com/foxminers-interview-dual-scam/

I don't know how to wayback stuff and gotta run, so I'll let you do the deed.
Is easy go to http://web.archive.org and take a look at their front page, Don't *have* to register or Donate but is of course nice to do to support them. Only restriction seems to be if a site blocks crawlers -- like Google's cached pages. Cointelegraph also refused allowing to be Waybacked.

There are a couple URL entry boxes to use, one is tagged to specifically add pages and is best place to start if the site/pages have not already been added by someone else.
legendary
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no need to carry heavy money bags anymore
April 29, 2017, 11:55:01 AM
I am sure the Foxminer guy is lurking here as well. Also here is an update:

I wen't to brendas address again today, knocked on her door and she refused to answer. That is okay as next time I will show up with 2 police officers and I am getting real tired of this crap.

Maybe before I thought she was innocent, but at this point I am 110% certain that she received compensation from this scam. She also went and told the scammer that I stopped at her door the first time because not 10 minutes after I left i received a threatening email from him.

This guy thinks he can get away with shit like that, well good luck with it when the feds start investigating. I filed a report with Brenda's name and address on it, if she doesn't want to deal with me she can deal with the cops.


Wow this is turning serious ... they obviously tried to threaten wrong guy. Good job themerkle, give those scammers what they deserve.
vip
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April 29, 2017, 10:41:12 AM
Oh Brenda, that sweet old granny, went to visit her the other day, gave me cookies she baked using the heat of the  FM9800-XD1112, so good, gave me bitcoins too Smiley

Brenda Mae's Famous F.® FM9800-XD1112 Chip CookiesTM - Haz just a DASH of [mined] Morton Salt.
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April 29, 2017, 06:00:22 AM
Oh Brenda, that sweet old granny, went to visit her the other day, gave me cookies she baked using the heat of the  FM9800-XD1112, so good, gave me bitcoins too Smiley
vip
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April 28, 2017, 08:37:12 PM
vip
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April 28, 2017, 08:31:52 PM
***  Foxminers LLC If someone buys this miner without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***

Hmm. Th article in Bitcoinist about the Foxminers scam has gone a-missing... http://bitcoinist.com/foxminers-interview-dual-scam/

Did anyone grab a Wayback of the page?

edit: damn it. Just looked and not archived. Crap.
Grabbing ones of TheMerkle articles before they possibly disappear as well.
Got them.
Both  http://web.archive.org/web/20170428231520/https://themerkle.com?s=Foxminers

Full 1st article  http://web.archive.org/web/20170428231713/https://themerkle.com/cryptocurrency-mining-hardware-scam-education-foxminers/

Full 2nd article  http://web.archive.org/web/20170428231238/https://themerkle.com/how-to-expose-a-bitcoin-mining-scam/

Here's the cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BineOLq6v1AJ:bitcoinist.com/foxminers-interview-dual-scam/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Save it now, bud.
newbie
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April 28, 2017, 07:35:27 PM
Hmmm.  It's the little teeny green arrow by the end of the url in index search results now, btw.  So if you 404 you can always go back and try that.  
legendary
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April 28, 2017, 07:17:39 PM
Here's the Google cached version, notfuzzywarm.  http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BineOLq6v1AJ:bitcoinist.com/foxminers-interview-dual-scam/

I don't know how to wayback stuff and gotta run, so I'll let you do the deed.
Narf...
Google blocks the Wayback crawler from them. In a way makes sense so someone does not make their own search site based on pilfered Google content...
newbie
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April 28, 2017, 07:11:44 PM
Here's the Google cached version, notfuzzywarm.  http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BineOLq6v1AJ:bitcoinist.com/foxminers-interview-dual-scam/

I don't know how to wayback stuff and gotta run, so I'll let you do the deed.
legendary
Activity: 3822
Merit: 2703
Evil beware: We have waffles!
April 28, 2017, 07:03:12 PM
***  Foxminers LLC If someone buys this miner without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***

Was poking around the Wayback'd pages from 2014.
The specs for their 2.1THs rig dated April 2014 look - right. Totally on-par with what 28nm chips and rigs did back then:

ASICs: 28nm Golden Nonce
Guaranteed Performance: 1900 GH/s
Power consumption: 1 Watt/GH
Chassis: 480(W) x 170(H) x 450(D) mm
Cooling System: 3 x High-Performance Liquid Cooling Units
PSU: 2 x High Performance 750W Power Supply

A) Wonder if any were actually made and if so, delivered?
B) If 'yes' to 'A' then, are these the same folks gone bad or has the Foxminers name also been hijacked by these scammers?

Then again, the Golden Nonce was a chip from Hashfast.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/List_of_Bitcoin_mining_ASICs and we know how they turned out.... Birds of a feather and all that rot...
newbie
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April 28, 2017, 06:52:54 PM
The google archive cache is kinda hid for quite a while now but the bitcoinist article might still be there.  I think some other sites might lifted it verbatim too.  Props to themerkle for action.  While site takedowns could be somewhat effective if they could be had consistently, real law enforcement action might be a helpful deterrent.
legendary
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April 28, 2017, 06:35:23 PM
Wayback'd your reddit post along with the pages from CCN and CoinTelegraph you linked to.
http://web.archive.org/web/20170428232919/https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6865qu/cryptocoinsnews_and_cointelegraph_actively/
Ain't pretty to see but is there about 1/2-way down the page.
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April 28, 2017, 06:28:36 PM
I am sure the Foxminer guy is lurking here as well. Also here is an update:

I wen't to brendas address again today, knocked on her door and she refused to answer. That is okay as next time I will show up with 2 police officers and I am getting real tired of this crap.

Maybe before I thought she was innocent, but at this point I am 110% certain that she received compensation from this scam. She also went and told the scammer that I stopped at her door the first time because not 10 minutes after I left i received a threatening email from him.

This guy thinks he can get away with shit like that, well good luck with it when the feds start investigating. I filed a report with Brenda's name and address on it, if she doesn't want to deal with me she can deal with the cops.
legendary
Activity: 3822
Merit: 2703
Evil beware: We have waffles!
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