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legendary
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April 28, 2017, 06:05:44 PM
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Hmm. Th article in Bitcoinist about the Foxminers scam has gone a-missing... http://bitcoinist.com/foxminers-interview-dual-scam/

Did anyone grab a Wayback of the page?

edit: damn it. Just looked and not archived. Crap.
Grabbing ones of TheMerkle articles before they possibly disappear as well.
Got them.
Both  http://web.archive.org/web/20170428231520/https://themerkle.com?s=Foxminers

Full 1st article  http://web.archive.org/web/20170428231713/https://themerkle.com/cryptocurrency-mining-hardware-scam-education-foxminers/

Full 2nd article  http://web.archive.org/web/20170428231238/https://themerkle.com/how-to-expose-a-bitcoin-mining-scam/
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April 28, 2017, 01:48:15 AM
Well,there is this address.................

https://www.google.com/maps/place/3865+Mulberry+St,+Lake+Worth,+FL+33461/@26.6072595,-80.1049603,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x88d927892472ca33:0xaa609825ed3e069e!8m2!3d26.6072595!4d-80.1027716?hl=en
legendary
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April 27, 2017, 10:49:50 PM
To close out the night and make it easier for new eyes to get the gist of this thread right from the top of it, I tweaked my post #2. It now has some of the most irrefutable points immediately there and easy to catch.
legendary
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April 27, 2017, 06:27:10 PM

You missed the THC Lab Cafe.
No, just usually don't care about ads. Love that GIF site tho bookmarked and gif saved.
Damn -- back feeling twitchy again so time hit a roach Nice having my MM Green card Smiley
vip
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April 27, 2017, 06:15:38 PM
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Oh that is just hilarious Cheesy
And the phone battery life will be just how many minutes? Even plugged into a good charger say, 2.1A, that gives 10.5w of power. Barely enough to run a single 2Pac stick from Sidehack @15GHs. Of course the phone itself will want some of that power as well.

Crap. There goes Physics getting in the way again... Tongue

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Bitcoin Startup 21 Unveils Product Plan: Mining Chips for Smartphones
A bitcoin sticker is seen in the window of London’s ‘Vape Lab’ cafe, where it is possible to both use and purchase the bitcoin currency.

You missed the THC Lab Cafe.
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April 27, 2017, 05:31:12 PM
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Oh that is just hilarious Cheesy
And the phone battery life will be just how many minutes? Even plugged into a good charger say, 2.1A, that gives 10.5w of power. Barely enough to run a single 2Pac stick from Sidehack @15GHs. Of course the phone itself will want some of that power as well.

Crap. There goes Physics getting in the way again... Tongue
legendary
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April 27, 2017, 04:02:00 PM
***  Foxminers LLC If someone buys this miner without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***

Bitcoinist has joined the ranks of folks in screamin' SCAM! http://bitcoinist.com/foxminers-interview-dual-scam/

Per the article:
"An old lady called Brenda sent us an email and explain to us how she is able to create ASIC which can mine 2 algorithms at choice"

So now the person(s) behind this are now trying to shift blame to her, the only visible person so far....
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April 27, 2017, 01:47:12 PM
Looking at ufominers, there's thcservers again...

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   Name Server: NS1.THCSERVERS.COM
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   Name Server: NS3.THCSERVERS.COM
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Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry
Registrant Name: Panel Wirez
Registrant Organization: UfoMiner LLC.
Registrant Street: Silmonte #21   
Registrant City: New York
Registrant State/Province: New York
Registrant Postal Code: 411647
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Admin Organization: UfoMiner LLC.
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vip
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April 27, 2017, 01:45:56 PM
***  Foxminers LLC If someone buys this miner without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***

I'm not a foxminer, nor will I be!!!!
I have expressed my mind no more.
Your wise speech is "valued"

edit: @NotFuzzyWarm I do not know English well, and I can write badly enough Wink
Thought that might be the case. I removed reference to being part of Foxminers

Small but important language lesson:
"I" or "me" = the person talking. That is why easy to assume you were part of Foxminers.

You wanted to use the word "they" which = different person/company

Also, do not immediately defend a product without reading WHY it is called a scam. Discussion of that is over and does not need to be repeated. The first 4 pages provide absolute proof. Read them, then post an opinion.

This thread is now in Busting mode against them.

Hey, Fuzzy, I just noticed that you still have Zipkin's link in your sig where he was goin' to burn down my house and kill everybody in it. HAHAHA & Chuckles
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April 27, 2017, 01:23:58 PM
***  Foxminers LLC If someone buys this miner without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***

I'm not a foxminer, nor will I be!!!!
I have expressed my mind no more.
Your wise speech is "valued"

edit: @NotFuzzyWarm I do not know English well, and I can write badly enough Wink
Thought that might be the case. I removed reference to being part of Foxminers

Small but important language lesson:
"I" or "me" = the person talking. That is why easy to assume you were part of Foxminers.

You wanted to use the word "they" which = different person/company

Also, do not immediately defend a product without reading WHY it is called a scam. Discussion of that is over and does not need to be repeated. The first 4 pages provide absolute proof. Read them, then post an opinion.

This thread is now in Busting mode against them.
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April 27, 2017, 12:52:49 PM
#99
whois 144.217.250.220

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Parent:         NET144 (NET-144-0-0-0-0)
NetType:        Direct Allocation
OriginAS:       
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OrgName:        OVH Hosting, Inc.
OrgId:          HO-2
Address:        800-1801 McGill College
City:           Montreal
StateProv:      QC
PostalCode:     H3A 2N4
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RegDate:        2011-06-22
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Customer:       S.C. THC Projects SRL (C06384073)
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vip
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April 27, 2017, 12:51:17 PM
#98

Excellent review and investigation
Can you say something similar about the company UFOMINERS?
from Las Vegas? Are they scam or not? Since he contacted them and paid 20 BTC for the equipment. Track code dosih has not yet been received on the parcel, and the company itself once a week reports that it will be soon and the parcel will be at the customs in my country, and so it's almost a month instead of the promised 5 days.
There is a feeling that FOXMINERS is the reincarnation of the previous UFOMINERS because the subject matter of the sites is very similar.  It remains to only verify the number of purses for payment in the blockchain BTC.
Thank you for attention.

 Cool

Fuck the subject matter! Call FoxMiners number and listen to the voicemail, introducing themselves as UfoMiners.

That, and why would FoxMiners have UfoMiners pics on its servers?

https://web.archive.org/web/20170427174335/https://foxminers.com/wp-content/themes/foxminers/img/gallery/

http://www.ufominers.com/oberon-miner-prime
http://www.ufominers.com/images/image3.jpg
https://foxminers.com/wp-content/themes/foxminers/img/gallery/product1.jpg


http://www.ufominers.com/nekros-miner
http://www.ufominers.com/images/image1.jpg
https://foxminers.com/wp-content/themes/foxminers/img/gallery/product2.jpg


http://www.ufominers.com/ethereum-rhinominer-prime
http://www.ufominers.com/images/ethereum.jpg
https://foxminers.com/wp-content/themes/foxminers/img/gallery/product3.jpg


http://www.ufominers.com/zcash-equinox-prime
http://www.ufominers.com/images/zcash.jpg
https://foxminers.com/wp-content/themes/foxminers/img/gallery/product4.jpg


Meanwhile, meet David Done ...

http://www.1888pressrelease.com/foxminers-launches-revolutionary-mining-chip-pr-612037.html


... and David Fero

http://www.abc-7.com/story/35202627/foxminers-launches-revolutionary-mining-chip


... and Alan Fleisher

http://www.todayontheinternet.com/2017/04/24/foxminers-offers-one-step-ahead-for-cryptocurrency-miners/

vip
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April 27, 2017, 12:05:57 PM
#97



In California it's a common practice for the locals to express $30,000 as 30.000 USD.  Roll Eyes My guess is that Jonathan partook too much of his medical marijuana when he penned the reply, hence littered with grammatical errors.

There's definitely THC involved.

nslookup foxminers.com
Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   foxminers.com
Address: 144.217.250.220


nslookup 144.217.250.220

Non-authoritative answer:
220.250.217.144.in-addr.arpa   name = s13-250-220.thcservers.com.



VVV Reads to me like those fuckers are high as well. The address provided doesn't exist just like everything UfoMiners and FoxMiners put forth on official docs.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/thcserverscom-cheap-web-hosting-shared-hostingvpsdedicated-servers-684329

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Thank You,
S.C. THC Projects S.R.L


https://www.THCServers.com
Phone: +1.631.259.7718

http://www.spoke.com/companies/cheap-web-hosting-558c35c0309360a97f000414

Quote
3865 Mulberry Lane
Miami, FL
tel: 631-259-7718

There is no 3865 Mulberry Lane in Miami, FL.
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April 27, 2017, 11:13:22 AM
#96
I'm not a foxminer, nor will I be!!!!
I have expressed my mind no more.
Your wise speech is "valued"

edit: @NotFuzzyWarm I do not know English well, and I can write badly enough Wink
legendary
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April 27, 2017, 10:58:08 AM
#95
***  Foxminers LLC If someone buys this miner without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***

Here on this front is a "national sport!" To mark everything that is new for fraud.
Many things that were labeled as frauds were true ... eg, Baikal miners and the like.
Do not let all vendors hang in one sack1
I know I can find a cheat, but why do everybody accuse me of being a scammer Huh
For a start, aside from the very obvious plagiarism of SFARADS SF3301 data sheet dated Feb 11 2015 there is the issue of no one EVER seeing that equipment in real life. Not seen at trade shows, no reputable people giving reviews, no evidence from pools showing SUSTAINED hash rate at real-world difficulties, etc.

Just as with Baikal, eBang, Hotmine and Panda, folks here will be more than happy to retract SCAM statements and in fact endorse the product WHEN THEY PROVE THEIR CLAIMS.

edit: @ jimbo, then why did you say "but why do everybody accuse me of being a scammer"?
edit edit: removed associations between jimbo and Foxminers. Translation error
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April 27, 2017, 10:23:41 AM
#94
Here on this front is a "national sport!" To mark everything that is new for fraud.
Many things that were labeled as frauds were true ... eg, Baikal miners and the like.
Do not let all vendors hang in one sack1
I know I can find a cheat, but why do everybody accuse me of being a scammer Huh
legendary
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April 27, 2017, 08:11:29 AM
#93
***  Foxminers LLC If someone buys this miner without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***

Love the last 2 lines in the "interview":
Quote
Shall i remind you of Panda Miners?
They had the same attitude against them, and finally after a while they prove to be legit"

And how did Panda, not to mention eBang and Hotmine resolve peoples suspicions? They accepted known reputable peoples offers to do a review of the equipment plus started their campaigns by demonstrating the gear at tradeshows. Ya know? Real hands-on proof.

As a business plan, blitzing the media without a single shred of physical evidence of their Miraculous Mining gear ever existing (much less being possible with foreseeable tech looking out a few years) is just plain stupid -- or of course the blatant proof of a scam in-progress.
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