Topic: Scam Warning: WoodCollector (Read 29092 times)

TECSHARE, please PM me with the maximum amount of time you are willing to wait for video proof to be produced, so I can tell you to go fuck yourself when that amount of time passes.

I would also like to point out that the idea of Bitcoin living and dying by the "community" is the most arrogant, naive, moronic fucking thing I ever heard. If you find yourself making statements about "the Bitcoin community" and its effect on the success or failure of Bitcoin, you are either still a child or the world has silently passed you by.

If there is anything that will determine the success or failure of Bitcoin, it's whether enough people will get their fucking shit together and build services on top of it, before it gets swallowed up by the endless streams of scammers, shills, thieves, and con-artists.

"Oh, everybody start tipping, guys! Here's a printout I handed out at the mall for an hour!" Fuck you. The time for that was 2009, 2010, 2011 even. Step aside.

Enough people with heads on their shoulders have learned about Bitcoin that the entire end game of this thing has already been set in stone, just like it always is. Those who create and build are those who move things forward. Those who would con and cheat and steal are those who sink in their claws, trying to drag us to the ground to feed off our corpse.

Talking about the "community cohesion" "in crypto" is a fucking buffalo complaining about how the other animals at the watering hole aren't playing nicely. Get your head turned around and take a peek at the lions creeping up behind you -- THEY'RE the threat.

If any of you don't like what I've just said, suck it up and deal with it. I hope you remember this post and come back to read it when you smarten the fuck up.

Pointing out that 100% of your accusations are completely speculative is not equivalent to saying "nothing can be proven".
This is not even evidence, it is SPECULATION. That is it. Nothing more. I will make my conclusions about Woodcollecter ONCE HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT HIS EVIDENCE.

You on the other hand are perfectly happy with starting a mob against him within less than 24 hours because you have convinced yourself that you are just so smart you saw a scam that no one else could see, and because I don't grab a torch and join your mob I must be stupid. I guess WC is just supposed to put his entire life on hold, set up a video studio, and carve you a brand new piece the instant he saw your accusations, just to satiate your 2 bit mall cop attitude. Nubbins, you are WAY out of line, and your lack of self control and temperament is going to do nothing but make you look like the ass you have demonstrated yourself to be.

Solipsism. The idea that there is no such thing as truth, and if there is it can not actually be known.  Some say it is a Philosophy, i refer to it as the most hideous disease to ever befall mankind.

So what you say is that circumstantial evidence is enough to hang someone?

TECSHARE seems like one of those "nothing can be proven" people.

You cannot prove my body is covered in skin because you haven't seen pictures of me

You cannot prove the world is round because I have not personally orbited it from space

You cannot prove that man-made climate change is real because it's cold where I am right now

TECSHARE, there comes a point where overwhelming circumstantial evidence allows rational adults to make assumptions. For me, that point was long ago. For you, that point will be when WoodCollector says "I am a phony", and not before.

TECSHARE, a question: if I found a picture of WoodCollector, holding a sign that said "I am WoodCollector and here is my workshop", and there were no fine carving tools, just a lathe, lathe chisels, and a laser cutter, and there was a half-lasered piece under the laser while the photo was being taken, would you still claim that there is no PROOF and that it's all SPECULATION?

No, that's just these forums. It's become to large for it's own good, and everyone is trying to show they are the best.


Rather than a mega forum we should have several independent forums.

One where the developers hang out and talk technical stuff.
Remove the alt-coin section, they should have their own forums.
A legitimate "silk road" built on the public net for economy.
I'm sure there's enough in Mining to support it's own as well.

With the decentralization and segregation of the forums the elitism can fade, if bitcoin is all about decentralization why does theymos have almost entire control over the communication that transpires?

When the forums went down where did everyone go to communicate? No where, they just complained until the forums were back.

Hey man. I have a bridge for you to buy made from super rare watermelon wood or something. PM me for details

All carved by hand!

So explain to me again how other unrelated incidents would mean I am "butthurt" about this situation? Have you perhaps considered that I chose my language because you ARE wrong, and are harassing some one who only wants to sell his legitimate wares? No that couldn't be it. It must be "butthurt" for some undefined reason. This thread is PACKED with a mob of IDIOTS who lie to themselves that they are serving the "community". You people serve nothing but your desire for drama, chaos, and your obsessive compulsive desire for mob retribution with ZERO PROOF of anything. I have read through all of the threads and postings and it is 100% SPECULATION.

This kind of behavior is why there is no community cohesion in crypto anymore, and why it will be turned out, pimped by Wallstreet and fucked into the dirt. It is a direct result of feral mobs of arrogant, obsessive compulsive, lemming like children as demonstrated in this thread.

Probably covering his ass, till the time.

False. In early Dec 2014 I approached him about his work looking much like laser engraved. He opted to talk off the forum which I never got around to.

I work with a laser engraver and have had time to play around with wood pieces and different vector art both my own and others that are copied.

Looks mighty similar in nature to the work I can create on my end. Not to say I am a pro at all but the similarities in depth and how precise his designs were showed me he was using more than just "hand carving".

Now that sounds like a guy talking out of his ass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_crystal
Wikipedia claims that technology isn't even practical yet for distances greater than between components on an IC chip. Although that was cited as 2009, but thecableco.com has copyright 2011 so I doubt they developed that technology within 2 years and don't know how to update a copyright automatically.

Best Buy is scamming their customers when they sell them an $80 HDMI cable (with protection plan for only $25 more) telling them it gives them better picture or audio quality. That the sales guy doesn't get charged with it is irrelevant.

Regardless, the analogy is not a great one. A better one would be that you bought a 1.5m power cable for your receiver for the low low price of $10,800. They're cryo-treated, hand made and are constructed from the highest purity monocrystalline silver.
When you get it, your amp turns on and you pay the man his money. Later on it turns out that they aren't hand made, they aren't cryo-treated, and it might actually just be a cable salvaged from an old PC with the end chopped off and a new fancy yellow end screwed on.

Did you get scammed? Your amp is still getting power. It's probably working exactly as well as it would with the fancy cable that you paid five figures for. What's the big deal?

Best-Buy 6.6' $1495.99 (Don't worry, free shipping)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-diamond-6-6-high-speed-hdmi-cable-dark-gray-blue/2383319.p?id=1218325919542&skuId=2383319

Amazon 100' $59.69 (Free shipping)
http://www.amazon.com/Twisted-Veins-Adapter-Supports-Ethernet/dp/B00FX8Q3NM/ref=sr_1_3?s=audio-video-accessories&ie=UTF8&qid=1422085256&sr=1-3&keywords=100ft

You could buy 25 of those cables, or 2500 feet of cabling with $3.74 left over

That's 378.79 times more cabling for the same price.

So taking WoodCollectors $14,000 work, divide it by 378.79 and you get $36.96.

$40 for that piece of wood run off a laser engraver by Paul Revere for instance wouldn't be a bad deal.

WoodCollector = Best Buy
Paul Rever = Amazon


(This was an extreme case, for illustration purposes)

Your analogy doesn't do this situation justice. What is the mark-up on those cables? Are they made by retarded half-monkeys?

From my understanding the piece was shipped to Blazed then after his approval the payment was sent. So he knew what he was getting and was satisfied with the price.


This whole thing sort of makes me think of Best Buy selling Gold HDMI cables for a high markup claiming it produces a better picture and audio quality than a standard HDMI cable even though that is entirely false. Some people are willing to pay the markup and others know better. It doesn't necessarily mean Best Buy is scamming their customers, even though they could get the same quality from Amazon on a cheaper cable.

"You are very gullible. For $14,000 I can fix that..."

Yeah, I'm also a little surprised at how BTC1 ballooned into BTC40. It makes me wonder if that's the price that he actually paid, or whether that's *ahem* appraised value. Regardless of what caused the value of the piece to be so high though, I just find it incredulous that such a well regarded member would pay $14k for a commissioned piece of art without knowing who the artist is. Unfortunately I'm constantly surprised by the things people do here, so it won't take me long to pick my jaw up off the floor if Blazedout has no idea who the guy is.

Well, tbh the prices seemed a bit suspicious. He took advantage of the entire forum fr a while since no one experienced enough had noticed him. His work seemed interesting and unique to most people at start.

I'm not sure there ever was to be a video. Never did think his work was very good, nobody ever makes bad cuts on wood then say he wanted it to look unfinished. A master carver would never never leave those poor cuts

He must also be pretty bad a video rendering. I mean, 5000 minutes? What was he uploading? An 8k .RAW?