scammed when selling bitcoins on ebay - page 4.

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Quote from: ForceField on March 11, 2012, 09:01:28 PM

Quote from: paraipan on March 11, 2012, 08:50:31 PM

I was thinking to start selling some bitcoins on ebay but after seeing all these people getting scammed i don't think it's a really good idea without taking some measures, pff.

Why not use the postal service then ? ...Some thoughts ?

Using USPS (or any other physical carrier) to deliver items that could be delivered digitally will erode your profit margin.

And unfortunately, even then, the buyer could open a ISNAD case against you and most probably win.

Guess i will stick with the toys i have and leave ebay for the "brave" ones

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Quote from: paraipan on March 11, 2012, 08:50:31 PM

I was thinking to start selling some bitcoins on ebay but after seeing all these people getting scammed i don't think it's a really good idea without taking some measures, pff.

Why not use the postal service then ? ...Some thoughts ?

Using USPS (or any other physical carrier) to deliver items that could be delivered digitally will erode your profit margin.

And unfortunately, even then, the buyer could open a ISNAD case against you and most probably win.

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Just a thought here... have any of you actually read the 6 pages of guidelines that eBay has about selling electronically delivered goods? They basically tell you upfront that unless you are one of their PowerSeller butt-buddies you are absolutely ignorant to try to sell electronic delivery, because they will NEVER, EVER, NOT EVEN UNDER COURT ORDER side with you. They never have, and never will unless you are Platinum and making them better than $25,000 in fees per month. And if you are that guy, you have a direct phone number to the little weasel in San Jose who will screw your customers for you, so you don't even think about this crap.

Selling a non-tangible good on eBay is the same thing as lighting cigarettes with benjamins, you will never get satisfaction, not even if the rip-off who stole your stuff confesses, admits it was an intentional fraud and offers to pay you back, they still won't find against him.

Keep your records, if it's worth enough talk to your local gendarmes, otherwise write it off on your taxes and chalk up a lesson learned in how not to do business.

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I was thinking to start selling some bitcoins on ebay but after seeing all these people getting scammed i don't think it's a really good idea without taking some measures, pff.

Why not use the postal service then ? Pondering at it for a while i came up with printing priv keys at bitaddress.org then sell as Online Coupons and send them with tracking by post. When the buyers receive the letter i can fund it with bitcoins so they can redeem at mtgox or importing the key into their wallet. Yes, is slow but damn safe. Some thoughts ?

ForceField

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I too, have had a terrible eBay experience and started a thread about what happened.
If you're a seller, eBay will not help you resolve a dispute fairly even if you're right and the buyer is at fault.

Full details here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-hate-ebay-63484

BTC guy

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I got scammed selling wow time cards on ebay. After i emailed the code the bastard filed an unauthorized transaction. I had no tracking to prove i delivered so paypal took my money away.

Live and learn.

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is it true, that paypal converts € in BTC?
and if so, that they restrict the amount exchanged?

Bitcoin.Greece

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Bitcoin is the Future of currency

Don't need to cry about ebay and paypal .Seller must ask for 100+feedbacks ,1 year or more on ebay , and check all previews feedbacks of the buyer . I have zero problems so far

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on March 05, 2012, 11:24:13 AM

Quote from: BlueCorp on March 04, 2012, 10:42:16 PM

Ebay is evil

Ebay isn't evil.

People making stupid choices doesn't make ebay evil. Ebay has been pretty consistent. If you sell digital goods without proof of transfer then ebay is going to side the with buyer. Maybe unfair but it is stupid for people to keep trying in the face of that policy.

Just got me a nice 24 port gigabit switch for $39 on ebay. That can't be evil.

True, they could have been banned if they're a scam. It could be some negligence on the part of the people who do transactions in their.

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on March 05, 2012, 11:48:24 AM

Sure you are. What kind of person is yet to be seen but I have a pretty good suspicion about it. And I don't need google to tell me I'm right about it.

Suspicions about What?

Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on March 05, 2012, 11:49:25 AM

Quote from: BlueCorp on March 05, 2012, 11:27:18 AM

why do you need a 24 port gigabit switch

Going to modify my farm to use PXE eliminating the need for USB sticks on each rig. I could use a switch just for that but I currently have a 24 port switch connectivity for the whole house so replacing it w/ gigabit seems like better option.

At $41.01 (sorry it wasn't $39) the question should be why DON'T you need 24 gigabit ports. 16 port would have been fine for my needs but I didn't see one that cheap.

The reason I don't need a 24 Gigabit port is because I don't have that many connection

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Gerald Davis

Quote from: BlueCorp on March 05, 2012, 11:27:18 AM

why do you need a 24 port gigabit switch

Going to modify my farm to use PXE eliminating the need for USB sticks on each rig. I could use a switch just for that but I currently have a 24 port switch connectivity for the whole house so replacing it w/ gigabit seems like better option.

At $41.01 (sorry it wasn't $39) the question should be why DON'T you need 24 gigabit ports.

16 port would have been fine for my needs but I didn't see one that cheap.

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Quote from: BlueCorp on March 05, 2012, 11:43:41 AM

I'm a person.

Sure you are. What kind of person is yet to be seen but I have a pretty good suspicion about it. And I don't need google to tell me I'm right about it.

BlueCorp

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I'm a person.

Raoul Duke

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Quote from: BlueCorp on March 05, 2012, 11:27:18 AM

A google search will tell if the information is real?

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck should we think it's a chicken?

In this forum alone there are more than 3000 results mentioning the keywords I used...

Also: You walk like a duck and quack like a duck... Roll Eyes

BlueCorp

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A google search will tell if the information is real?

And also why do you need a 24 port gigabit switch

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Gerald Davis

Quote from: BlueCorp on March 04, 2012, 10:42:16 PM

Ebay is evil

Ebay isn't evil.

People making stupid choices doesn't make ebay evil. Ebay has been pretty consistent. If you sell digital goods without proof of transfer then ebay is going to side the with buyer. Maybe unfair but it is stupid for people to keep trying in the face of that policy.

Just got me a nice 24 port gigabit switch for $39 on ebay. That can't be evil.

Raoul Duke

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Quote from: BlueCorp on March 05, 2012, 11:08:54 AM

How would you know scammer used another person information and it's not even theirs

By using a little thing called brain...

https://www.google.com/search?q=bitcoin+ebay+scam

BlueCorp

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How would you know scammer used another person information and it's not even theirs

Raoul Duke

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I can't say I feel sorry for you. Nor should anyone else.
Your first sentence on the OP described it very well!

Jela

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Neither ebay nor paypal are inherently evil. You can easily be fooled the same way on the street or in shops if you are unaware of what they are doing or working like.

Just look around to see how a company is acting and take that into consideration before acting. There are enough reports about ebay/paypal in this forum telling you that ebay and/or paypal are dangerous for bitcoin-selling. If you are blind for these dangers because you're just after the profits, fine. But if you are taking the risk (either because you want it or because you are uninformed) then it is also your fault if you are making a loss.

The world isn't black and white. People also need to see their own faults.

With regard do personal details of a scammer: Publication of their personal data is illegal, after all it is personal data. Some person claiming the person to be a scammer doesn't make them one. This other person could perhaps claim the same. Just hearing one side of a story is always just part of the story.

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