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sr. member
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September 19, 2012, 03:54:47 PM
#86
hes a fucking SCAMMER pure and fucking SIMPLE!!!!!


He's a rich fuck, living in a big house, he drives nice cars, he owns RENTAL PROPERTIES!

but you know what he says to us?

FUCK YOU!


THIS WAS A FUCKING SCAM PURE AND SIMPLE

HASHKING IS A SCAMMING FUCKING DIRTBAG


I AM OFFERING 100 BTC TO ANYONE THAT WILL PROVIDE TO ME HASHKING's PERSONAL NAME, ADDRESS AND PLACE OF BUSINESS

PM HERE ON THE FORUM

THANK YOU 

Is this chungehung?  Did you make a sock puppet because you were afraid to ask for the information yourself.

Must be because I don't have an account with this person.  This account was created on 9/6/12. 
sr. member
Activity: 308
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September 19, 2012, 03:52:43 PM
#85
hes a fucking SCAMMER pure and fucking SIMPLE!!!!!


He's a rich fuck, living in a big house, he drives nice cars, he owns RENTAL PROPERTIES!

but you know what he says to us?

FUCK YOU!


THIS WAS A FUCKING SCAM PURE AND SIMPLE

HASHKING IS A SCAMMING FUCKING DIRTBAG


I AM OFFERING 100 BTC TO ANYONE THAT WILL PROVIDE TO ME HASHKING's PERSONAL NAME, ADDRESS AND PLACE OF BUSINESS

PM HERE ON THE FORUM

THANK YOU 

Is this chungehung?  Did you make a sock puppet because you were afraid to ask for the information yourself.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
September 19, 2012, 02:54:37 AM
#84
Also, we need to evaluate this statement:
You say these 1% and 1.25% deposits are insured. Who is insuring them? Do you have a link to where this is explained somewhere? Thanks.

These deposits are guaranteed by me.  Which means no one will lose any money if I make any bad investments.
Again, this brings up the issue of time. However, he was never specific about what he meant by "me". You could argue that he guaranteed the program with his personal assets. Should hashking be required to liquidate all assets that can be forcefully liquidated by law?

Or I was guaranteed by Pirate to return my funds back to me.

EDIT: Another batch of payments went out.

I like how you are still trying to wiggle out of your own words. Nowhere did you state your guarantee was based upon pirate. You fucked up. Eat it as you were so easily able to take money from others who were scammed as well all while telling them their investment was insured.

 Cheesy
hero member
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September 15, 2012, 09:25:40 PM
#83
Maybe everyone just misunderstood what sort of hash he was talking about.
full member
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September 14, 2012, 10:55:17 PM
#82
I've decided that he is a scammer. Especially due to this (now-deleted) post:

I wouldn't sell any of my personal assets to cover any bitcoin losses.  This is a business, it has failed.  When businesses fail they shut down and usually nobody gets anything.
Umm, no. That's not true. Declaring your business a failure doesn't absolve you of your debts. You are your business. Your business is you.

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I will continue to make payments from my bitcoin production and buy coins whenever I can.  If people continue at act they way they are acting I will just walk away.   
Threatening to renege on a legitimate debt to obtain a business concession is scamming.


Well then sue me.  Lets see what a court will say about bitcoin.  I will just file for a bk and I'm done.



You're ASKING to get sued?

You do realize judgements as a result of fraud (or any criminal activity) cannot be discharged in bk?

To anyone who has hashking's dox, please contact me.



Looks like I won't be paying your BTCS because you are looking for legal action.  I will wait for your court response.


I guess everyone that has every deleted a message should get a scammer tag. 


Telling people you wont pay unless they do what you want is extortion.
full member
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September 14, 2012, 10:49:02 PM
#81
Since I have seen evidence that the mining farm that was used to back the insurance exists, it doesn't appear to me that any scam took place. Next time, invest in programs where the insurance pays out faster.

hahahahahahahahahaha 3 years to pay back insured pirate money is okay?   oh man! bwhahahahaha

why did I even bother to pay out my insured bonds so soon! lulz.


btw hashking was the guy who tried to get me a scammers tag cuz he could not collect dividends on bonds he already sold.

so really due diligence guys. you got scammed good and he got away with it.

i honestly expected him to have the tag by now but oh well...



Its facetious to say "do your due diligence" with bitcoin because there is no way to do so nd you cant enforce property rights.

donator
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Gerald Davis
September 13, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
#80
Way to miss the point.

If the post you deleted was:

I love rainbows how about you?

do you think you would  be getting a scammer tag?  No?  Can you think of any reason why you might be getting one?



sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
September 13, 2012, 10:46:56 PM
#79
I've decided that he is a scammer. Especially due to this (now-deleted) post:

I wouldn't sell any of my personal assets to cover any bitcoin losses.  This is a business, it has failed.  When businesses fail they shut down and usually nobody gets anything.
Umm, no. That's not true. Declaring your business a failure doesn't absolve you of your debts. You are your business. Your business is you.

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I will continue to make payments from my bitcoin production and buy coins whenever I can.  If people continue at act they way they are acting I will just walk away.   
Threatening to renege on a legitimate debt to obtain a business concession is scamming.


Well then sue me.  Lets see what a court will say about bitcoin.  I will just file for a bk and I'm done.



You're ASKING to get sued?

You do realize judgements as a result of fraud (or any criminal activity) cannot be discharged in bk?

To anyone who has hashking's dox, please contact me.



Looks like I won't be paying your BTCS because you are looking for legal action.  I will wait for your court response.


I guess everyone that has every deleted a message should get a scammer tag. 
donator
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Merit: 1000
September 13, 2012, 03:36:33 PM
#78
Mining equipment as long term insurance is a joke, if you even believe it. It would be easy to produce evidence if that was the case.

He doesn't seem to have any intention to repay. He'd rather have his depositors indefinitely waiting and slowly realising they won't get paid, instead of going for him.
legendary
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Merit: 1004
September 13, 2012, 02:57:36 PM
#77
If his deposits are backed by a mining operation, either he is:
1) Over leveraged and the value of his operation doesn't cover the value of his deposits
2) Completely incompetent at setting up a mining operation
3) Lying about the speed with which he can repay

A 3 year ROI for mining equipment is a joke.
legendary
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September 13, 2012, 02:54:42 PM
#76
Theymos, could you lock this topic for 1-2 months?

At the moment this thread just leads to meaningless escalation.
administrator
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September 13, 2012, 02:52:34 PM
#75
I've decided that he is a scammer. Especially due to this (now-deleted) post:

I wouldn't sell any of my personal assets to cover any bitcoin losses.  This is a business, it has failed.  When businesses fail they shut down and usually nobody gets anything.
Umm, no. That's not true. Declaring your business a failure doesn't absolve you of your debts. You are your business. Your business is you.

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I will continue to make payments from my bitcoin production and buy coins whenever I can.  If people continue at act they way they are acting I will just walk away.   
Threatening to renege on a legitimate debt to obtain a business concession is scamming.


Well then sue me.  Lets see what a court will say about bitcoin.  I will just file for a bk and I'm done.



You're ASKING to get sued?

You do realize judgements as a result of fraud (or any criminal activity) cannot be discharged in bk?

To anyone who has hashking's dox, please contact me.



Looks like I won't be paying your BTCS because you are looking for legal action.  I will wait for your court response.

zyk
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 101
September 13, 2012, 02:51:40 PM
#74
Did he mention this mining insurance thing before the BS&T default?

Of course not. And seriously, how is mining going to pay for this over 3 years? In just 3 months his mining operation will be almost worthless and it will take 3000 years to pay back his obligations.

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Has he paid anyone yet?

Yes, a few tiny accounts. Very much like Pirate did.

No one would have invested with hashking if they knew "fully insured" meant coins being mined over 3 years...

if the plan is just mining coins he will just get the scammers tag 3 years in the future i guess.

You will get it much earlier when running in the arms of the FBI Wink

Take care

The community still loves you

Thanks Zyk
legendary
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Merit: 1040
September 13, 2012, 02:24:07 PM
#73
Did he mention this mining insurance thing before the BS&T default?

Of course not. And seriously, how is mining going to pay for this over 3 years? In just 3 months his mining operation will be almost worthless and it will take 3000 years to pay back his obligations.

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Has he paid anyone yet?

Yes, a few tiny accounts. Very much like Pirate did.
administrator
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September 13, 2012, 12:15:27 PM
#72
Did he mention this mining insurance thing before the BS&T default? Has he paid anyone yet?
legendary
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September 13, 2012, 11:00:23 AM
#71
I also wondered if Pirate had promised payments over the next 3 years, if he wouldnt have been labeled a scammer? After all, both hashking and pirate seem to have paid out a very small number of small accounts, and promised to pay the rest later.
donator
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
September 13, 2012, 10:56:47 AM
#70
It's an interesting form of insurance, considering the fact that mining equipment guarantees nothing 3 years in the future. Could be losing money in a matter of months. With difficulty shooting up we'll see how that goes.
newbie
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September 13, 2012, 10:44:59 AM
#69
Hey hashking, can you show any document (signed by both parties) where people accept that their 'insured' deposits will be returned within 3 years?  Or is the 3 year remuneration term something you made up after pirate cleaned you out?

With any kind of insurance, "best efforts" is usually written into the contract, and usually presumed if it's absent.  So if I were to get into a car accident, my insurer would make its 'best effort' to have the matter sorted out quickly.  This is both a legal issue, as well as good customer service.

I'd never sign an insurance contract whose terms were "Yeah dude, we'll pay for your accident at some point in the next 3 years, so just chill out brah. Also I'm 15."
zyk
full member
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Merit: 101
September 12, 2012, 01:56:58 PM
#68
Am beginning to think that Hashking still paying out is now a hero members honor - action...

as all other PPT´s are shutting up and are performing horror - action.....none of them shows any personal responsibility Undecided

Throw the bums out

Cheers Zyk
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Gerald Davis
September 12, 2012, 01:48:38 PM
#67
 Every cent he owns from his car to his house to the clothes in his closet and the balance of every bank account could be used to satisfy a judgement.  

The problem with judgements is they are hard to collect.

Agreed.  I don't think this will go to court, I don't think this will get a judgement, I don't think anyone would be able to collect much on a judgement even if they got one.

Just pointing out since he never created a legal entity (LLC, Corp) for his business activity the only possible definition of "me" is himself, his assets, his person.  Without a separate legal construct any liabilities incurred by his "business" are no different than non-business liabilities incurred.  
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