Oh, wow. I almost can't believe it. You are actually being drawn into stating something useful, sort of.
Trying to get smart with me and all you do is say 'You did not rebut my proof'. Here you go, you apologist cunt, hopefully you vanish the fuck outta here after this.
1.Machine-like nature of the universe - obviously, you know nothing of the universe. If you would, you would know that there is a lot we don't know about it in order to call it machine-like. But hey, you're used to finding excuses for something you don't know about. Nothing proofs anything here except you talk about shit that you don't know.
LOL! Then why is it that every last machine that people have and use comes from examples shown in the universe... examples that have been around for thousands of years into the past, long before anybody looked to see what they are.
2. This is solely an assumption based on the fact that you believe that the universe has a creator (and you specifically know who, that is the flaw with you retards).
You say "this." What "this" are you talking about. Science scientifically proves that God exists. This throws out the idea of believing it. You can't believe what you know. Rather, you believe what God says - his predictions and explanations - not that He exists.
3. Quantum mathematics? Really? You call your shit scientifically based on the fact that you use fancy words? Randomness is not and was never what you defined it to be. Randomness means the lack of predictability, of a pattern, not the lack of the cause. I strongly believe you are a cunt more than a retard and you intentionally wrongly defined randomness in order to prove your bullshit. The remaining bullshit in your proof at this point is again an assumption, not proof. You assume that everything has a cause, so the universe must have God as a cause. Let us quickly cut the crap: we know there must be a cause to the big bang. We don't know what was that cause. Neither you. The only difference between you and people like me is that we try to find out through research. Apologists like you take the short way to the nobrain area and say 'It's God'. That's what you need to prove, that the one responsible for the universe is a God or the God. Until now, all you do is prove that there must be a cause to the universe. We already knew that, dipshit.
LOL! Just as I have said. Pure random has never been witnessed anywhere. All that has been witnessed - and in overwhelming abundance - is cause and effect. Just because cause and effect are often not observable by people because of their lack of any real abiblity, doesn't mean that there is any randomness. Stop blabbing, and get down to something that makes sense.
4. The nations look for God - here comes the propaganda. You really call this scientific proof? Have you ever read a scientific work, you mustering retard?
You poor baby. You can't take it, can you, when someone proves your religion is foolish
Let's see some probability now. What is more probable:
a. A super intelligent and powerfull being created the universe and humans. Based on the logic of Badecker, something must have created the God. If he is so intelligent, how could he know something far more intelligent did not create him? If this is so, why are we losing time with this mediocre intelligent loser, let's hunt for the big one. Also, how far will this go, to the infinite?
You talk so silly. When a builder builds a shed, is he part of it? Do the laws of the shed hold true in the builder? Is the builder made out of wood and nails like the shed? Does he have shingles on his head like the shed has shingles on its roof? In the same way, the physics of the universe is not necessarily something that applies to God, even in the least.
b. Humans, who tend to use their imagination, fantasising about how powerfull they could be if they got smarter, invented a God as a protector, in the fear of predators. Later on, that became a religion and as man became more and more intelligent, religion became a way of controling other people hence the ones who invented and control it fantasize about having that power and act as if they would. Other examples of Godlike stories created by humans: nearly every superhero, fantasy movies, fantasy games, santa claus, local legends. For me, the this is far more probable. In fact, I attribute the God thing a percentage of 0.001% of probability.
Wow! You just described scientists. The only two differences are, they don't say the word "God," and they don't have the facts like God does.
Finally, I reach to my conclusion that I've said before without needing to write all of this for an apologist cunt to drop the 'you didn't prove I'm wrong' bullshit. The conclusion is all of that is pure assumption and intentionally error. Absolutely no proof anywhere that God is the cause of universe. All that you prove is that the Universe must have a cause, and we already know that, because it has been already proven. Your job is to prove that the cause is specifically your God. Good luck with that. Thank you a lot for wasting my time with your apologistic crap that does follow a pattern. Now fuck off outta here, you brainless cultist.
Thanks for the non-rebuttal. Most of what you say is simply talk against me personally. You poor baby. It kinda tickles watching the rabies spittle dribbling out of your mouth. Be careful, now. You just might bite yourself in the forehead. However, if you really want to, I'll tell you how you can do it. Stand on a chair, so you can reach way up there. LOL!
First of all, I can't believe I am actually doing this with a cunt like you, but it's all for the better of humanity. Consider me your Jesus Christ, fucker.
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The electric toothbrush is anywhere to be seen in the universe. It's what God made first. The electric toothbrush. Or the dildo, people saw that too in the wonderful machines of the universe. Pathetic.
2.This refers to the assumption that you made, stop acting like a dumb bitch and take what you get for granted. You ate shit, nobody cares if you admit it or not. First two points are no even remotely scientifically, it is just your fecal matter transposed into thoughts.
3.Again, you are going all around. You are either a dumb cunt or a really hypocrite cunt. It is not what you have said. What you said is that TRUE (not pure, you common idiot) randomness does not exist because all is based on cause and effect. What actual science sais is that randomness defines as the lack of a pattern, of a high probability, not of a cause. Randomness does not exclude cause and effect, nor viceversa, you cheap idiot. Talking about patterns, here's what you did and keep doing: go around the subject, find some things that in your head seem to be flaws, try to exploit them to win your argument. As an example, you just ignored the truthfull fact that you must prove that there was a God as the first cause of the universe, and more precisely, your God, not fucking Osiris or The Spaghetti Monster (which, by the way, is the best example of how dumb are people to believe in anything). I state again, you cretine, we know everything has a cause and every cause will have an effect, we just don't know what was the cause. You don't know as well so stop acting like you do, you cunt. (that is why you shitheads are called apologists, because you find an excuse for your lack of knowledge by saying 'it must have been god') So other than cause and effect, which we already know of, you haven't proven anything.
4. Not believing is not a religion. It is not because having a religion means believing in something. Knowing something for sure and admitting there is stuff you do not know is just being normal, cunt. So keep the religious shit for yourself.
5. Beautiful story cultist, but that is just a childish thing. We were small, playing with wooden swords and we all had some superpower. And from time to time, there was an asshole who, when defeated, would say 'You can't do that because I have the power to take all your powers and you can't kill me'. Of course, we would just send him home but this is what you just did. Stick with cause and effect until that argument that you overuse turns against you. That's when you say 'whell yeah, but God is God and cause and effect does not apply to him'. You can't know that, you wouldn't know God, not even if he existed. But you can say that because it's all imaginary, you can attribute unknown and mysterious powers to your imaginary superhero because he doesn't exist. That is your mind coming up with shitty excuses to maintain your defense system alive. You are basically a shit person, a faux, a fraud, a lie to yourself. An apologist cunt that pretends to scientifically prove something while he barely remembers to breathe properly. Of course this becomes personal, you shithead, since everything you wrote there comes from your rich imagination. You pretend to prove someting, and actually you are just writing your own desilusions there, your interpretations of the world as you see it. That is not observing, that is being a nut. Nothing to rebut, as I've said until now, absolutely nothing except some terms and some definition errors.
6. Scientists base everything on direct observation and experimentation. You are just insulting them. You should be ashamed of yourself, cunt. But you have no shame, do you.
Finally, keep in mind that I am very calm and have a really big smile on my face as I write all of these truths about you. I've told you, but I shall repeat myself: I am not insulting you, I am solely reflecting what you are as a person. Cunt, apologist, dumbass, cheap idiot, bitch, retard, ass licking cultist...these are not insults for someone who is all of these. So for you, they are attributes. Now, may you please get out of here? You have lost. Admit it, retreat, come up with new ideas and we can start again.
Since you show by your words that most of what you know is deception that doesn't make sense, time to laugh you right off.