Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 224. (Read 845582 times)

You finally agree that the rebuttal to your claims is in your links.

Now you are on your way to enlightenment and freedom from your religion.

You were the one who talked about burden. And since the proof has already been given, as you say, thanks for finally agreeing that God exists. Even you agree that any burden that I might have had is relieved by the proof.

The proof has already been given. You have your links.... read them. All the information you need is there.

The burden is on you to prove, not me to disprove.

Otherwise, my simple statement of "I can fly" lies with you to disprove.

You fail to understand that, if I ever had a burden of proof, I threw it off with the links above. Since you talk about burdens, let's see a point by point rebuttal of my proof that holds any water at all. You have taken the burden of rebuttal upon yourself, but to date all you have said is that you have rebutted. But you haven't shown how the rebuttal is a rebuttal.

And you fail to understand that the burden of proof is on you to show the proof of your god's existence.

You claim it to be true, so prove it.

The rest of your writings are just "hogwash".

That's good that my words aren't proof. Of course, my words that express the proof don't stop it from being proof.

Come on! Be strong. You can rebut the proof that God exists. Don't simply say that it has been rebutted. Don't simply show some websites that you say have rebutted the proof. Get into the thing yourself. Show how the proof has been rebutted step by step. Are you so lazy? Is it really too much work? You realize, don't you, that all your talk is a lot of work over the days and weeks. If you can't get into it and state the way the points of proof are rebutted point by point, step by step, how can you or anyone really even know that you have found a rebuttal?

Until you can clearly show the rebuttal by getting right into the explanation of it, all your talk about a rebuttal is hogwash. All you are doing is strengthening the fact that God exists in the minds of all who watch the things you do and say. Your atheism religion was stupid to begin with. But it is an utter lie since it has been rebutted by the proof that God exists.

However, even if God didn't exist, atheism is really stupid, Why? Because nobody has near enough knowledge of the universe to state with any certainty that God does not exist.

Atheism is a religious cult. Even the dictionary definition of "religion" shows that atheism is a religion, indirectly.

Your words are not proof.

Find real proof or give up.

Since you are not into accepting proof that you don't want to accept, there is no reason to keep on giving it to you.

BADecker principle rule number 1:
"If a point of discussion does not meet criteria of one's own belief, then ignore the context and claim it is wrong".

Therefore, your proof is wrong, so please give me proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCTEhezcYw  Burden of proof lies with those who claim god exists can be found here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Ttc9g1u8   Answer to the first cause argument can be found here.

Proof is shown here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

However, to state that there is no proof for or against, is to state that atheists are ignorant or liars. A person who is agnostic might be justified until he sees the proof. But an atheist is a cultist who holds to the religion of atheism. Why? Because he won't acknowledge his lack of knowledge.

Circular arguement.

Can't prove or disprove. Therefore it becomes a matter of singular choice with or without proof.

I dont think you can probe existence of god with any science. That would be like a loophole.

When God created the universe, He gave mankind control. However, since everything operates by cause and effect, the things that man want are the things that come into being. Then man gave his control over to the devil. So God operates things according to the control of the devil, because God is over all. But...

All the evil of this universe will be destroyed right along with the universe. Afterward, it will never be remembered or brought to mind. So, evil will be destroyed. God will bring about this destruction.

Do you get it? No more evil. When you die, your evil is essentially gone from you, except if you are found to be against God at the time of the final judgment. If you are, you will be evil, and will be destroyed along with the universe.

When you consider all this with understanding, you will find that even the apparent evil of God is still goodness.

Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

God is evil, as well as good. Every disaster that has killed people has been done by god, as well as every good thing. Go read the bible.

There will be conclusive proof that there was a creator in the next 100 years. There will still be debate about what this entity was/is and the scope and limits of their power but our knowledge of DNA, evolution, and artificial intelligence will ultimately draw mankind into only one conclusion. DNA and organic living things are made to work as they do.

Here is a thought. In the future machines will develop fully functional Artificial Intelligence where compounded learning takes place continuously, machines will reproduce and evolve in their own fashion, and organic life may cease to exist on this planet. Would an uneducated observer of this future Earth look at how the machines work and immediately know that they were once created by something else? Initially, an observer may not even differentiate machines from normal living things. Then after decades of research they would start to uncover their ever changing underlying programming. Their own design constantly improving as they reproduce. In an effort to dismiss a creator, an explanation will arise for each problem they discover, machine could ultimately rise from ancient goo like the dawn of life on earth.

Then one day someone will unlock the code that shows how machines work, it is simply code after all. There will be only one possible conclusion, the process started with intent and the process followed a blueprint that required perfect knowledge of the matter that makes a machine and the intelligence that drives it. The design from the beginning of the first robot was to create life and recreate a living thing. Just as the design for biological species is meant to create life in perpetuity, vessels of organic matter that are bound to the conscience. We cannot see the organic blueprint today because we are just too plain dumb, but we will learn and one day we will know.

Once we unlock the real secrets of DNA, God's signature is probably sitting right in front of us for everyone to see and has been for a million years.

I highly doubt there is scientific explanation to God,its just the same like you were asking any proofs that we saw God for even once in our lives.Clearly your that type of person who believes in the saying "to see is to believe".

You do not even need to explain anything here. If people are looking for evidence of the existence of God, then they have problems with faith and probably with the psyche too. Faith always discarded material values, so what we believe has nothing to do with the earth and the body.

Are you serious!!!! Have you ever thought that without battery or the use of any other fuel (except for food) How this human body is working ? Have you ever realised or felt your breath when you are in deep sleep ?...What i mean is apart from books and thesis there are common sense incidents that are a solid proof of existence of the god!!!...It's just that we have a habit of finding logic in each and every thing so we think have everything is happening just because another thing happened right before it..which compelled this thing to happen...Can't we think like this that every thing is happening by the grace of god ?

Inspired writings are evidence of the WORD. These texts are best explained by reference to a being or personality, so these words are likely not produced by human speakers. See the paper "The Problem of Seth's Origin" and others from this researcher.

Just last week I was able to prove to myself that a serious infection can be neutralized with remote scalar energy, also known as "remote healing"; anyone can repeat the experiment with better controls, but I am already convinced. God provides protection, it is proven scientifically by the remote healing of my infection. I am sure that I have received life and healing through the energy of GOD, who sustains life by His all-pervasive energy.

Personally I think this is being approached in the wrong way, this is a matter of faith, you believe in god or not regardless of whether there is proof or not.