Scientific proof that God exists? - page 219.

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Quote from: Decksperiment on March 28, 2017, 10:36:02 AM

Religious people are liars period. Note their god is the true god? So which one is that? Last I heard on my planetary travels is that every sphere has a lord from below, so once we've ripped this planet for all it has, and move to another x amount of light years away, what will the lord of that sphere be called, and will folks still claim god is the light, which obviously comes from the fire we breath?

You are calling yourself a liar. Number 6 from the definition of "religion from http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t:

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something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

According to the definition, you seem to have a religion of non-religion.

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Religious people are liars period. Note their god is the true god? So which one is that? Last I heard on my planetary travels is that every sphere has a lord from below, so once we've ripped this planet for all it has, and move to another x amount of light years away, what will the lord of that sphere be called, and will folks still claim god is the light, which obviously comes from the fire we breath?

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Only a few selected groups of real believers which are the same people experimenting, thinking, looking and seeking for the truth will see the obvious signs and evidence of God existing.

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Quote from: Horacewoodwood on March 27, 2017, 10:01:35 PM

While I am extremely tolerrant to beliefs and faith, I find it very dangerous when religious people come up with experiments such as 'try the healing energy of God'. Why would you lie to people telling them that in 15 days you can cure infections, illnesses, etc only with the help of prayer and faith? You can believe in whatever you want but keep it to yourself and most of it, keep your dumb ideas for yourself. Dumb people might end up dying or killing their children because of such idiotic nonsense. In my country, a case of two parents who refused treatment in favor of prayer for their little girl, who ended up dying, is still being judged.

Very sorry for the girl. She could still make decisions herself and her parents answered for her life. Believing in God is certainly good, but there is still official medicine. I think that first you need to go to the doctors, and if they are powerless, then you can try to be healed with the help of prayer.

oh i see, this poor little girl dies because the parents decide to believe in a mythical sky fairy to cure her rather than
seek proper medical attention and you have the audacity to claim believing in god is certainly good?
wtf are you thinking?
ah ok...so you pray after not before seeking real treatment...got it.
i got news for you... praying will do fuck all, regardless of whether you do it before or after seeking real treatment.

but yeah, official medicine works, so do that before resorting to useless prayers to imaginary sky fairies .

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Quote from: Horacewoodwood on March 28, 2017, 05:42:34 PM

I pretty much doubt qwik2learn is a scientist or is specialised in studying the scalar waves and their effect on the imunity system. Also, even though some things are still tested on human beings, most of the experiments are being tested on animals.

I am conducting scientific research and I already disclosed my findings, I only tested for pathogen cleanse effectiveness. By the way I still zap myself and feel the pathogenic activity in my mouth, that is because of constant re-infection that must be treated; I had fewer sensations in my mouth when treated with scalar energy than with daily microcurrent and no outbreaks, but I will not be using myself as a CONTROL GROUP for this study . Naturopaths will have more experience than I on scalar treatment for a variety of issues, you could also become an expert and help to heal the world's diseases. Anyone can try this test on animals, allegedly even on pathogens on a microscope slide. Why is Tom posting experiments that confirm my experience while you sit back and say that neither of us are scientists? Is it just because we are not believing in the philosophical materialism of scientism? Perhaps you could ask a local scientists group to take a photo of some pathogens like in Tom's experiment. Yes that is a very nice experiment to try! I think that citizen science is fun!

You see, you are not conducting a scientific research, not by far. You are only trying what a scam artist (Tom Paladino) told you can heal the unhealed diseases (not a fucking tooth infection). Your infection relapsed because it has not been treated, but fought back. What you idiot do not understand is that you might have a cavity along with that infection, and by not going to a dentist who will intervene to treat the infection and clean everything up, you might lose your tooth because if there is tissue damage, scalar energy won't do shit to build it back. Not anyone can try this test on animals because not anyone is a scientist, you went from try it on yourselves to try it on animals. Let the animals be and you zap yourself as much as you want, stop telling people to try your shit until that shit becomes properly researched and not just claimed to be researched by a complete whaco that scams people on the internet. Both of you are not scientists and both of you can zap yourselves as much as you can, just don't tell other idiots to do the same. Thank you!

I am urging everyone to test this out, it will not hurt anyone to submit their photograph, right??? Why do you think that the energy could produce a remote harm or benefit via your photo if this guy is a scam artist?! Seems illogical.
One can include a photo of a pet as well. Your opinion on the effectiveness or danger of submitting a photo is not backed by any evidence, on the other hand I have personally seen that pathogens are cleansed from the infected area, something that normally would have to be done with either microcurrent or chemical antibiotics. The treatment is free, and it is not like sending a photo of your foot is going to harm you from a distance. I will certainly be following up on my experiment, I will not wait for others, and I never call people crazy until I have determined the truth for myself.

I am not talking about the danger of submitting a photo, you donkey, I am talking about the danger of not seeking treatment for something that might endanger your life and submitting yourself to the tiny possiblity of a miracle. You do that, don't urge others to do that. If that treatment will ever be successful, doctors around the world will accept it and use it. Since it's not used by doctors, it means it's not yet fully researched. Again I tell you, test it as much as you want on yourself, do not urge other people to use it instead of seeking the attention of a doctor for their health problems.

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Quote from: Horacewoodwood on March 27, 2017, 10:01:35 PM

While I am extremely tolerrant to beliefs and faith, I find it very dangerous when religious people come up with experiments such as 'try the healing energy of God'. Why would you lie to people telling them that in 15 days you can cure infections, illnesses, etc only with the help of prayer and faith? You can believe in whatever you want but keep it to yourself and most of it, keep your dumb ideas for yourself. Dumb people might end up dying or killing their children because of such idiotic nonsense. In my country, a case of two parents who refused treatment in favor of prayer for their little girl, who ended up dying, is still being judged.

Very sorry for the girl. She could still make decisions herself and her parents answered for her life. Believing in God is certainly good, but there is still official medicine. I think that first you need to go to the doctors, and if they are powerless, then you can try to be healed with the help of prayer.

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Quote from: BADecker on March 25, 2017, 11:26:36 AM

Quote from: Decksperiment on March 25, 2017, 09:53:31 AM

Actually, the church has embraced Lucyfur, as is evidenced by the vatican's latest deep space telescope which was named Lucifer. Why? Cause God cant see that far.

So that's the church you are talking about. What about the other churches that practice truth and righteousness?

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They aint called church's nowadays, no, that would be embarrasing, they now call them lodges.

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Quote from: Horacewoodwood on March 29, 2017, 05:26:36 AM

Quote from: qwik2learn on March 28, 2017, 11:23:59 PM

Quote from: Horacewoodwood on March 28, 2017, 05:42:34 PM

I pretty much doubt qwik2learn is a scientist or is specialised in studying the scalar waves and their effect on the imunity system. Also, even though some things are still tested on human beings, most of the experiments are being tested on animals.

I am conducting scientific research and I already disclosed my findings, I only tested for pathogen cleanse effectiveness. By the way I still zap myself and feel the pathogenic activity in my mouth, that is because of constant re-infection that must be treated; I had fewer sensations in my mouth when treated with scalar energy than with daily microcurrent and no outbreaks, but I will not be using myself as a CONTROL GROUP for this study . Naturopaths will have more experience than I on scalar treatment for a variety of issues, you could also become an expert and help to heal the world's diseases. Anyone can try this test on animals, allegedly even on pathogens on a microscope slide. Why is Tom posting experiments that confirm my experience while you sit back and say that neither of us are scientists? Is it just because we are not believing in the philosophical materialism of scientism? Perhaps you could ask a local scientists group to take a photo of some pathogens like in Tom's experiment. Yes that is a very nice experiment to try! I think that citizen science is fun!

You see, you are not conducting a scientific research, not by far. You are only trying what a scam artist (Tom Paladino) told you can heal the unhealed diseases (not a fucking tooth infection). Your infection relapsed because it has not been treated, but fought back. What you idiot do not understand is that you might have a cavity along with that infection, and by not going to a dentist who will intervene to treat the infection and clean everything up, you might lose your tooth because if there is tissue damage, scalar energy won't do shit to build it back. Not anyone can try this test on animals because not anyone is a scientist, you went from try it on yourselves to try it on animals. Let the animals be and you zap yourself as much as you want, stop telling people to try your shit until that shit becomes properly researched and not just claimed to be researched by a complete whaco that scams people on the internet. Both of you are not scientists and both of you can zap yourselves as much as you can, just don't tell other idiots to do the same. Thank you!

I am urging everyone to test this out, it will not hurt anyone to submit their photograph, right??? Why do you think that the energy could produce a remote harm or benefit via your photo if this guy is a scam artist?! Seems illogical.
One can include a photo of a pet as well. Your opinion on the effectiveness or danger of submitting a photo is not backed by any evidence, on the other hand I have personally seen that pathogens are cleansed from the infected area, something that normally would have to be done with either microcurrent or chemical antibiotics. The treatment is free, and it is not like sending a photo of your foot is going to harm you from a distance. I will certainly be following up on my experiment, I will not wait for others, and I never call people crazy until I have determined the truth for myself.

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Quote from: iluvbitcoins on August 13, 2014, 02:08:41 PM

God is actually a name for aliens, we have missinterpreted it all these years

You can see every religion says the gods came from the stars, even the bible

And my hypotesis is that they came, they saw a smart species [apes] and they implemented a missing gene in them to make them evolve, to make us

I guess you don't actually believe in the existence of just one supreme being called God. But even if you don't, its ridiculous to conclude that God is another name for aliens, if you do believe in the existence of aliens, then you should also believe that God truly exist.

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Quote from: qwik2learn on March 28, 2017, 11:23:59 PM

Quote from: Horacewoodwood on March 28, 2017, 05:42:34 PM

I pretty much doubt qwik2learn is a scientist or is specialised in studying the scalar waves and their effect on the imunity system. Also, even though some things are still tested on human beings, most of the experiments are being tested on animals.

I am conducting scientific research and I already disclosed my findings, I only tested for pathogen cleanse effectiveness. By the way I still zap myself and feel the pathogenic activity in my mouth, that is because of constant re-infection that must be treated; I had fewer sensations in my mouth when treated with scalar energy than with daily microcurrent and no outbreaks, but I will not be using myself as a CONTROL GROUP for this study . Naturopaths will have more experience than I on scalar treatment for a variety of issues, you could also become an expert and help to heal the world's diseases. Anyone can try this test on animals, allegedly even on pathogens on a microscope slide. Why is Tom posting experiments that confirm my experience while you sit back and say that neither of us are scientists? Is it just because we are not believing in the philosophical materialism of scientism? Perhaps you could ask a local scientists group to take a photo of some pathogens like in Tom's experiment. Yes that is a very nice experiment to try! I think that citizen science is fun!

You see, you are not conducting a scientific research, not by far. You are only trying what a scam artist (Tom Paladino) told you can heal the unhealed diseases (not a fucking tooth infection). Your infection relapsed because it has not been treated, but fought back. What you idiot do not understand is that you might have a cavity along with that infection, and by not going to a dentist who will intervene to treat the infection and clean everything up, you might lose your tooth because if there is tissue damage, scalar energy won't do shit to build it back. Not anyone can try this test on animals because not anyone is a scientist, you went from try it on yourselves to try it on animals. Let the animals be and you zap yourself as much as you want, stop telling people to try your shit until that shit becomes properly researched and not just claimed to be researched by a complete whaco that scams people on the internet. Both of you are not scientists and both of you can zap yourselves as much as you can, just don't tell other idiots to do the same. Thank you!

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Quote from: Horacewoodwood on March 28, 2017, 05:42:34 PM

I pretty much doubt qwik2learn is a scientist or is specialised in studying the scalar waves and their effect on the imunity system. Also, even though some things are still tested on human beings, most of the experiments are being tested on animals.

I am conducting scientific research and I already disclosed my findings, I only tested for pathogen cleanse effectiveness. By the way I still zap myself and feel the pathogenic activity in my mouth, that is because of constant re-infection that must be treated; I had fewer sensations in my mouth when treated with scalar energy than with daily microcurrent and no outbreaks, but I will not be using myself as a CONTROL GROUP for this study . Naturopaths will have more experience than I on scalar treatment for a variety of issues, you could also become an expert and help to heal the world's diseases. Anyone can try this test on animals, allegedly even on pathogens on a microscope slide. Why is Tom posting experiments that confirm my experience while you sit back and say that neither of us are scientists? Is it just because we are not believing in the philosophical materialism of scientism? Perhaps you could ask a local scientists group to take a photo of some pathogens like in Tom's experiment. Yes that is a very nice experiment to try! I think that citizen science is fun!

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I pretty much doubt qwik2learn is a scientist or is specialised in studying the scalar waves and their effect on the imunity system. Also, even though some things are still tested on human beings, most of the experiments are being tested on animals.

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Quote from: Horacewoodwood on March 28, 2017, 02:52:04 PM

I am not skeptical of Tesla's work on scalar waves, I am skeptical on a religious man confusing the scalar waves with the power of god, using a treatment that is not fully researched yet and which is targeting different dangers for the human being, not a tooth infection which might end up pretty bad if not seeing a dentist. The placebo response is well known of and that might be your answer untill further studies. Your imunity system might be also strong and fought back with or without the help of scalar waves. I have no problem with you testing things on yourself, I have a problem with you encouraging people to experiment god's power by trying scalar waves treatments that have not yet been fully researched. (especially not by the Tom Paladino)

From http://amhistory.si.edu/polio/virusvaccine/vacraces2.htm regarding Salk and Sabin:

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Although the scientific method of hypothesis formulation, testing, and verification is straightforward, even the most spectacular achievements involve complicated issues and tough choices. The scientists who raced toward effective polio vaccines tested their work on prisoners, institutionalized children, and tens of thousands of monkeys, as well as on themselves and their family members. They believed they were serving the greater good of society and of science.

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I am not skeptical of Tesla's work on scalar waves, I am skeptical on a religious man confusing the scalar waves with the power of god, using a treatment that is not fully researched yet and which is targeting different dangers for the human being, not a tooth infection which might end up pretty bad if not seeing a dentist. The placebo response is well known of and that might be your answer untill further studies. Your imunity system might be also strong and fought back with or without the help of scalar waves. I have no problem with you testing things on yourself, I have a problem with you encouraging people to experiment god's power by trying scalar waves treatments that have not yet been fully researched. (especially not by the Tom Paladino)

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Quote from: Horacewoodwood on March 28, 2017, 07:03:37 AM

First of all I do not assume, I am based on proofs recognised around the world: medicine.

I am basing my belief on the medical treatment and monitoring that I have given myself for over 2 years with this infection, I present my case study of medicine just like anyone else would. The scalar energy is more effective than the microcurrent that I have been applying for two years.

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Second of all, you talking about a PCR that proves your experiment is only reflecting how little you know about the subject. Go make your homework and learn what a PCR is and does.

Ok, just checked and saw it is relevant for pathogens. It would tell you the level of the pathogen in your body. Just as I thought, you are confused about what this treatment entails and how PCR is used to verify that the pathogens are gone.
Pathogen detection:
https://www.qiagen.com/us/spotlight-pages/newsletters-and-magazines/articles/applications-pathogen-detection/

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And last but not least, saying that the lives of those who might die because of these stupid ideas are less important than me proving to you that you are a liar is exactly what religion has done and is still doing to humanity. That is the base of it, the sacrifice and it involves egocentric bullshit that is no longer trusted by any sane human being today.

Wait, why would one die if they are receiving treatment? This treatment is trusted by me, and I am not insane, just a guy with a battery and a dead tooth looking for a simpler solution.

I already said that prayer will not destroy any pathogens by itself, prayer is your strawman, and you should easily be able to prove that PCR is not relevant to treating pathogens and determining their presence in the body. Also to disprove the results from this energy is very easy; I do not see what is the problem?

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Take your toys, go play wherever you want with your childish (although children are a bit skeptic of this nonsense, they have better stories) ideas and if you want to start curing yourself with prayers, go ahead and do it, but leave others out of this.

It is not childish, you are just skeptical of the work of Tesla and those who study scalar energy like he did.

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Quote from: HarringtonStark on March 28, 2017, 11:25:57 AM

You can't prove what you can't see. You can only choose to believe but you'll find out the truth when you're deceased. Believe or ignore, your call.

Is feeling things the same as seeing them? I mean, you can't see the wind, but you can feel it, so you have proof, right?

Many people feel God, so we have proof that He exists. Those who think they don't feel God really do feel Him. They just interpret what they are feeling in a different way, and so they think that God doesn't exist.

If people had no sensory perception at all, there would be no science. There would be no proof of anything. Since all sensory perception is based on feeling - seeing is simply feeling light rays in a sensitive way - feeling is the thing that we use to present proof to us. People who feel God have simply found feeling proof that God exists. They have also found feeling proof that science exists.

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Actually, the church has embraced Lucyfur, as is evidenced by the vatican's latest deep space telescope which was named Lucifer. Why? Cause God cant see that far.

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You can't prove what you can't see. You can only choose to believe but you'll find out the truth when you're deceased. Believe or ignore, your call.

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