Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 220. (Read 845650 times)

First of all I do not assume, I am based on proofs recognised around the world: medicine. Second of all, you talking about a PCR that proves your experiment is only reflecting how little you know about the subject. Go make your homework and learn what a PCR is and does. And last but not least, saying that the lives of those who might die because of these stupid ideas are less important than me proving to you that you are a liar is exactly what religion has done and is still doing to humanity. That is the base of it, the sacrifice and it involves egocentric bullshit that is no longer trusted by any sane human being today. Take your toys, go play wherever you want with your childish (although children are a bit skeptic of this nonsense, they have better stories) ideas and if you want to start curing yourself with prayers, go ahead and do it, but leave others out of this.

Oh, and as for those that think the more we spoil other's conversation spamming threads with adverts that no-one wants, think like this: No-one wants god, or the churches would flourish. The nuns would be oot n aboot, n the preists would all be in jail for paedofeelya.

The more one see's the same shite day in day out, the more one is to turn their back on said shite.

I most certainly do not buy products from those that like spam, in fact, I'm more likely to add those ad words to the advanced tomato firewall and block them before they ever get to the screen.

Why do you assume that I lie about my experience? Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups.

Anyone could confirm or deny the results based on a PCR test. I conducted my own tests but I did not use PCR. Go ahead and improve upon my methods.

I propose that a true skeptic should conduct this test. No need to be concerned about those who could be victims, just release the results of your experiment and it will prove that I am a liar.

While I am extremely tolerrant to beliefs and faith, I find it very dangerous when religious people come up with experiments such as 'try the healing energy of God'. Why would you lie to people telling them that in 15 days you can cure infections, illnesses, etc only with the help of prayer and faith? You can believe in whatever you want but keep it to yourself and most of it, keep your dumb ideas for yourself. Dumb people might end up dying or killing their children because of such idiotic nonsense. In my country, a case of two parents who refused treatment in favor of prayer for their little girl, who ended up dying, is still being judged.

It dont matter what we believe in, because here in the uk, asians took over the churches because the WHITE preists sold their soul in the fuckin places supposed to keep evil out. Why wont they say jesus in church? Cause they're all knocked down. Before you criticise those you would WANT to be with YOU (and not god), at least make sure your at least 40% in league with what the majority want, cause if not, majority rules. If the church is shut, it's what we want. Oh, look, god's finally getting shagged by Lucyfur.. see that look of joy on his face?

You better study a bit further. The following two passages are a couple of hints as to what to look for.

Sorry BADecker,
Jesus never taught that he would take away the sins of the world, that teaching comes from Paul. Why do you honor this teaching when Jesus simply taught "stop sinning"? Sounds like you have been hoodwinked! Jesus did not teach "Jesus salvation" at all, he taught the path of not sinning. You came up with most of the reasoning all on your own, in this circular post of yours where you make the bizzare claim that Paul's Bible teaching is the only teaching that matters to any Christian:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12775612

Jesus never said that you would be damned for "not believing in Jesus":
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/15353/did-jesus-actually-ever-say-if-you-dont-believe-in-me-you-go-to-hell

You type with your nose? Does your tongue help out now and again?

 

According to Matthew, when Jesus died, the curtain in the temple was ripped in two, and, many of the saints who had died came to life, and walked around in the city, and were seen by many people.

At His death, Jesus imparted something to all people, implanting it in them. The saints (believers) get it most, whatever it was.

My idea is this. It isn't found to be taught by anyone that I know of. Here it is.

Jesus, on the cross, took the punishment for all  sins in the whole world. This is standard understanding in many Christian denominations.

Next... Then what are people in Hell going to pay for? It wouldn't be the sins, because Jesus already paid for them, and God is just. He won't punish twice for the same sins.

The one sin that has not been paid for is the sin against the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the One Who works repentance in the heart, so that a person can accept God, and be in favor of Him rather than against Him. Even Jesus taught that this was the only unforgivable sin... locked in unbelief.

Since all people die, all people will rise just like Jesus did. Jesus paid the whole penalty and arose on the third day. So, all people will arise, and with a glorified body, like Jesus had after He arose. Because the sins that stop people from having a glorified body have been paid for, by Jesus on the cross.

Then, after the resurrection, the one unforgiven, unforgivable sin kicks in. The punishment for that sin is Hell.

The reason Hell is eternal is that a glorified body can die no longer. And the soul that rides in the undying body will live right along with it, forever. Hell - the lake of fire (Revelation) - will attempt to burn the glorified body. The glorified body will resist because it has been glorified. The turmoil of these to opposing activities will go on forever. It won't be fun for the soul riding in one of these bodies to interpret the burning as pain and torment, yet be renewed just to go on feeling the pain.

What experiment did YOU conduct?

I tried it out for 15 days and my infection went away, thus I am convinced. Without treating the tooth with microcurrent or antibiotics, a breakout comes in only a few days. It happened to me twice before, so I know about my infection, having managed it for over 2 years. Upon submitting my photo to Tom, I no longer needed to apply the microcurrent. A true skeptic conducts his own tests, for example telekinesis is tested in the series "Superhumans" from Stan Lee. These tests definitely prove that matter is a form of mind, and I do not think you have the evidence to back up anything that you say.

You troll me only because you are too lazy to do your own experiment.  

BIG PHUKKING FACE PLANT IN MY KEYBOARD!!

                                           

My contempt is for the so called good acting as bad as the bad, no problem with the bad, cause the bad's never good, only the so called good let you down, every time

Edit, and to satisfy you, I believe in both, god and the devil, but I know they are also not the only two available to choose from..

Hi BADecker,
Jesus actually "implanted something" in all humans "betwen his death and resurrection"?
Not sure how that is relevant to lessons here on earth. Maybe just focus on the "not sinning" part of the Bible since Jesus actually taught that stuff.

Just a note. Why does prayer work when we take action? Why doesn't it work on faith alone?

Because of our weak faith.

The whole process of God making the earth for us to live in, was supposed to be a way to train us to have faith by making doable actions something that we were to take part in.

The toys you hang above the baby crib aren't there because they have anything to do with the actual workings of life. They are there to start training the baby. The toys become more complex as the child grows.

Our toys that God gave to us, His children, are here for us to use to grow in faith, until a time that we will become like God... sort of.

We went and goofed it all up with sin. Change of plan. Jesus did the growing up (to a certain point) perfectly for us. Now we get the growing up that Jesus did implanted in is between death and resurrection, so that in the resurrection we will be found to be like Him. All we need after that is the forever experience of living in the new heavens and new earth.

The old plan is still in operation here, but in the several decades we might live on this earth, there is not nearly enough time for us to get enough experience to grow all the way up into Godness. And a lot of people intentionally refuse to go that route anyway. But the growing-up-plan is still in action for the time that we live.

You also have the unknown intelligence's who sit on the fence watching both side's parly.. Who know neither can exist , in the oneness of all, and still to this day sit utterly confused about what either will do, because in the oneness of all, both will fall. And hence neither is a wise choice to side with. And hence some of us just need to watch them blow themselves up, because that's what they wanna do, and one way or another, they'll justify it to themselves using nothing more than flawed logic.

None practice what they preach, but put on a good show. The money flows. Cash is king. Oh, no, wait a minute, we need to rethink this, as cash being removed from the street's, being replaced with digital freebies, that you cant afford, because there's no money. Dont tell anyone that a decent solar flare will wipe out 90% of electronics in a second, tata access to food, which cant be delivered, cause the drones got fried.

Some fuckin hope

God loves those who helps themselves.. to everything and everyone else's.. Git wid da program..

Your magic works for you or others.

Prayer works when you take action, like I said, you cannot destroy a pathogen by prayer alone. If you educate yourself on your options, you should be able to make the right choice.

Why should the magical thinking of millions of people should be effective? Results are only for those who take action, look closely at what is really going on here:

the researchers hypothesized that this kind of magical thinking can actually increase participants’ confidence in their own capabilities. That is, believing in lucky charms would increase participants’ “self-efficacy,” and it is this feeling of “I can do this,” not any magical properties of the object itself, that predict success.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/superstitions-can-make-you/

If you take to your knees to ask GOD for help, then how exactly do you expect to receive healing?

So that's the church you are talking about. What about the other churches that practice truth and righteousness?

I doubt that it will be so. I think that churches will turn into business. Now there are a lot of hypnotic sects and they can make huge advertising and deceive people with the help of the mass media.

Not every church has a god. To see how the servants of the church became dependent on money, then I do not think that such churches can perform all their functions qualitatively in full measure.