Prove your thoughts and emotions exists, wait, we can't.
All we can do is map the EM activation patterns in the brain to show us physical correlates to such emotion / thought.
The same is with the Source.
Science is just beginning to understand with the "Heisenberg uncertainty principal" which ironically shows us matter reacts to our awareness of it, wouldn't this be deemed more "certainty"?
As to "prove" god exists, that's like saying prove that this picture of a 3d sphere I drew on a 2d piece of paper is a sphere.
It isn't a sphere, it is a 2d representation of a sphere. The same is how we perceive "deities" from a 3d earth.
Some concepts extend beyond the abilities of the logical mind,
Viz.
Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 282. (Read 845654 times)
We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.
We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.
We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.
What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.
No, the "darkness" is not called dark matter.
Also, about the sun, we've had satellites orbiting it for decades...
Look above. I said "We see darkness around the stars." Anybody who thinks about it knows that it is not darkness that we see. It is light that we see. If there is darkness, we don't see it. We simply recognize it as absence of light. The point is that my statements are a figure of speech that are grounded in reality somewhat.
While dark matter is hypothetical, the explanation for it is that it is, matter that we cannot see. Since we cannot see it, it is darkness. That's why it is called "dark matter." Since dark matter only makes up part of that which we do not see, only some of the darkness is dark matter. The rest is simply absence of light. This is what my statement indicates.
Get off the games (of course, only if you want to).
This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever
There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.
In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.
Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).
The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.
Prove it, one way or the other.
You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn
Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?
The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.
No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?
We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.
We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.
We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.
What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.
No, the "darkness" is not called dark matter.
Also, about the sun, we've had satellites orbiting it for decades...
This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever
There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.
In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.
Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).
The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.
Prove it, one way or the other.
You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn
Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?
The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.
No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?
We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.
We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.
We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.
What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.
0/10 troll
To those who want to believe lies, others who point out the lies they believe, seem like trolls to them.
People who point out the lies that others believe, seem like trolls to those who want to believe the lies.
We don't know what the stars are. We don't know what dark matter is. All we have are a bunch of ideas and a few theories. Most of it doesn't fit together very well. Wake up and see that you are believing science fiction. The ideas and theories are nice stories, but we don't really know to what extent they are truth.
But we definitely know god exists right? And we actually know what stars are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star
We definitely know that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star says what stars are. We do not definitely know that it is the truth.
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We dont know if dark matter even exist and no one says it is a fact so i dont know what are you trying to say
There are those who say that dark matter exists.Quote
'Ideas and a few theories'' ''most of it doesnt fit together very well'' Im pretty sure all our ideas about stars and gravity and everything else works almost perfectly
When you look at the information about the stars being electric plasma rather than nuclear, you see that the common modern theories do NOT fit together very well, and that more than likely we are way off base with our common theories. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.
This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever
There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.
In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.
Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).
The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.
Prove it, one way or the other.
You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn
Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?
The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.
No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?
We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.
We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.
We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.
What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.
0/10 troll
To those who want to believe lies, others who point out the lies they believe, seem like trolls to them.
People who point out the lies that others believe, seem like trolls to those who want to believe the lies.
We don't know what the stars are. We don't know what dark matter is. All we have are a bunch of ideas and a few theories. Most of it doesn't fit together very well. Wake up and see that you are believing science fiction. The ideas and theories are nice stories, but we don't really know to what extent they are truth.
But we definitely know god exists right? And we actually know what stars are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star
We dont know if dark matter even exist and no one says it is a fact so i dont know what are you trying to say
'Ideas and a few theories'' ''most of it doesnt fit together very well'' Im pretty sure all our ideas about stars and gravity and everything else works almost perfectly
This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever
There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.
In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.
Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).
The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.
Prove it, one way or the other.
You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn
Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?
The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.
No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?
We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.
We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.
We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.
What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.
0/10 troll
To those who want to believe lies, others who point out the lies they believe, seem like trolls to them.
People who point out the lies that others believe, seem like trolls to those who want to believe the lies.
We don't know what the stars are. We don't know what dark matter is. All we have are a bunch of ideas and a few theories. Most of it doesn't fit together very well. Wake up and see that you are believing science fiction. The ideas and theories are nice stories, but we don't really know to what extent they are truth.
This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever
There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.
In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.
Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).
The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.
Prove it, one way or the other.
You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn
Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?
The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.
No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?
We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.
We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.
We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.
What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.
0/10 troll
Hi username18333,
Nihilism stands against life, therefore it is not suitable as a value. Dale Wilkerson would agree with me; at least, I have not heard him agree with YOU!
Nihilism is not in the service of life.
Nihilism stands against life, therefore it is not suitable as a value. Dale Wilkerson would agree with me; at least, I have not heard him agree with YOU!
Quote from: Dale Wilkerson, Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy link=http://www.iep.utm.edu/nietzsch/#H4
Nevertheless, from time to time the values we inherit are deemed no longer suitable and the continued enforcement of them no longer stands in the service of life.
Nihilism is not in the service of life.
The writer Roget equates “license” with “anarchy, interregnum, mob rule, mob law, lynch law, nihilism, reign of violence”, in other words, the acts of the Canaanites
Michelle Bachmann: Obama's poor relationship with Israel will bring the return of Jesus
http://www.jpost.com/Christian-News/Michelle-Bachmann-believe-Obamas-poor-relationship-with-Israel-will-bring-the-End-of-Times-398168
http://www.jpost.com/Christian-News/Michelle-Bachmann-believe-Obamas-poor-relationship-with-Israel-will-bring-the-End-of-Times-398168
survival is obviously the simplest explanation for these and also the NDE evidence that I posted earlier.
𝛹(𝑡, 𝛺) = ℏ⁄ℯ𝑡sin 𝛺 is a simple model of physicality; however, this simplicity does not, necessarily, guarantee that it is accurate thereto.
It is easy to see why the personality is more than just the physical body in which it is housed
The brain’s observation of its own recurrent processing could beget “the personality” (bl4kjaguar) as a phenominological effect thereof.
Hi joint,
On Page 85, it is said that you must first:
"quite thoroughly understand that there is something beyond the sensing of bodies which has no need of bodies."
I believe that the Eisenbeiss case and the rest of the AECES top 40, when taken together, is strong enough to refute humanism; survival is obviously the simplest explanation for these and also the NDE evidence that I posted earlier. It is easy to see why the personality is more than just the physical body in which it is housed; notice that a similar idea has recently been proven in biology, i.e. that life is more than just complicated chemistry.
Page 108:
On Page 85, it is said that you must first:
"quite thoroughly understand that there is something beyond the sensing of bodies which has no need of bodies."
I believe that the Eisenbeiss case and the rest of the AECES top 40, when taken together, is strong enough to refute humanism; survival is obviously the simplest explanation for these and also the NDE evidence that I posted earlier. It is easy to see why the personality is more than just the physical body in which it is housed; notice that a similar idea has recently been proven in biology, i.e. that life is more than just complicated chemistry.
Page 108:
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All new knowledge comes slowly. Be patient--and be masterful. But study the
information for it will not seep all over you by the closed book--EVER. Your own
destiny is of too great import for you not to know that which you should know to
control it. Read the following lessons many times because it will be a real foundation
upon which to build and then open up. You will find the information not only
emotionally philosophical but also equally satisfying from a very practical viewpoint
as well, for it will give you the wisdom of a Sage--as well as an intellectual--and that
alone is well worthwhile.
information for it will not seep all over you by the closed book--EVER. Your own
destiny is of too great import for you not to know that which you should know to
control it. Read the following lessons many times because it will be a real foundation
upon which to build and then open up. You will find the information not only
emotionally philosophical but also equally satisfying from a very practical viewpoint
as well, for it will give you the wisdom of a Sage--as well as an intellectual--and that
alone is well worthwhile.
The book with the proof is called:
HUMAN
THE SCIENCE OF MAN
THE SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION AND PROOF OF GOD
AND THE COSMIC ORDER OF THE UNIVERSE
WHAT IS CREATION AND HOW IT CAME TO BE
It is the 7th volume in a series, and you can find it here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_36.pdf
HUMAN
THE SCIENCE OF MAN
THE SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION AND PROOF OF GOD
AND THE COSMIC ORDER OF THE UNIVERSE
WHAT IS CREATION AND HOW IT CAME TO BE
It is the 7th volume in a series, and you can find it here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_36.pdf
Cite me some pages to read. I'm not skimming through a book of that length because I already know that whatever information in the book will not support your claim of empirical proof for God.
So, I'd like you to cite some pages that reflect the reasoning behind your claim.
The book with the proof is called:
HUMAN
THE SCIENCE OF MAN
THE SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION AND PROOF OF GOD
AND THE COSMIC ORDER OF THE UNIVERSE
WHAT IS CREATION AND HOW IT CAME TO BE
It is the 7th volume in a series, and you can find it here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_36.pdf
HUMAN
THE SCIENCE OF MAN
THE SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION AND PROOF OF GOD
AND THE COSMIC ORDER OF THE UNIVERSE
WHAT IS CREATION AND HOW IT CAME TO BE
It is the 7th volume in a series, and you can find it here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_36.pdf
I suggest you reference Journal 21, Chapter 3 and Journal 31, Chapter 13; I propose the straightforward idea that God has come to speak with you and I through these Journals.
My proposal is modest; if this thread would but read, the truth about man and god would be known.
Your modest proposal must answer to my simple question: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11107528
Edit: What did you want me to specifically read about Pascal's Wager? You gave a link to a 500+ page book.
I suggest you reference Journal 21, Chapter 3 and Journal 31, Chapter 13; I propose the straightforward idea that God has come to speak with you and I through these Journals.
My proposal is modest; if this thread would but read, the truth about man and god would be known.
This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever
There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.
In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.
Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).
The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.
Prove it, one way or the other.
You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn
Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?
The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.
No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?
We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.
We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.
We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.
What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.
This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever
There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.
In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.
Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).
The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.
Prove it, one way or the other.
You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn
Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?
The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.
No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?
3) Yep, here you reinforce your inductive fallacy. You can't use "the Word of God" to prove God exists before proving that God exists. You're caught up in a "chicken-or-egg?" problem. If you haven't proven God to exist, then you don't know its the Word of God. If you know it's the Word of God, then that means you've already proven to yourself somehow that God exists before looking at the evidence in the first place.
No matter how you spin it, your method doesn't work. Sorry.
Get the truth from the source, and read the journal I referenced in totality before determining that you are right about scientific proof of God. Are you truly happy to read what I have referenced? No matter how you spin it, your method doesn't work. Sorry.
4) There is no empirical proof of an afterlife, and you more-or-less acknowledge this by correctly describing the evidence as "suggestive." However, even if you somehow proved an afterlife exists, it does not in any way prove God exists.
Some have argued that there is no scientific way to prove anything, and that science only serves to disprove a thing.You must yourself prove that God exists because God dwells within; that is where the proof will come from--within you! Does it bother you that I have proved to myself that God is real by reading Dharma's writings (and thinking upon the same)?
One can see from the AECES top 40, taken altogether, that a process conducive to survival (of some 'aspect') apparently exists. An adequate explanation of the Eisenbeiss case must be simple; it follows that professor Eisenbeiss is telling the 'truth' (valid message) by way of the 'surviving personality' (source) and medium (signal). The message (chess game) was transmitted; Hence, the afterlife is valid truth, and it is supported by the now-recognized fact that life is more than just complicated chemistry; belief in the afterlife is both scientific and in accord with 'information theory'. Actually, the elucidation of the content-source problem (so necessary for evaluation of inspired writings) is but an exercise in information and communication theory; the simplest and most adequate signal transmission mechanisms are posited because science evidences signal transmission all throughout nature, and in science the simplest explanation is best.
Joint, would you Kindly reference the bit about Pascal's Wager from this book? I advise you to search through the text:
http://library.atgti.az/categories/philosophy/R.Sorensen%20-%20A%20Brief%20History%20of%20the%20Paradox.pdf
Back to quoting Journals; once you have read about the Wager, you can see that the Journals are highly "suggestive"!
If MAN can keep you from communion with GOD, he can control you! If you are ever to find God and be WITH GOD--YOU MUST COME INTO COMMUNION WITH GOD--AND BYPASS THE INPUT OF MAN. Since your time as man is short indeed and your time with God is long indeed--infinite, would it not be worthy to learn to talk with God and get His instructions for passage and cease and desist listening to the misguided and misguiding ones from the pulpits and thrones of "authority" and "expert blatherings"? If they be MAN--THEY DO NOT KNOW! THEY ONLY PRESENT THAT WHICH IS ALREADY THRUST UPON THEM AND YOU--BY MAN! I AM NOT MAN IN FLESH--AND DHARMA IS NOT ME.
What is that you don't understand about the limits of empiricism precluding any logical possibility of forming empirical conclusions about God?
This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever
There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.
In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.
Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).
The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.
Prove it, one way or the other.
You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn
Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?
The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.
This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever
There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.
In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.
Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).
The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.
Prove it, one way or the other.
You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn
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