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Quote from: Videlicet on April 17, 2015, 01:17:22 PM

Prove your thoughts and emotions exists, wait, we can't.
All we can do is map the EM activation patterns in the brain to show us physical correlates to such emotion / thought.

The same is with the Source.
Science is just beginning to understand with the "Heisenberg uncertainty principal" which ironically shows us matter reacts to our awareness of it, wouldn't this be deemed more "certainty"?

As to "prove" god exists, that's like saying prove that this picture of a 3d sphere I drew on a 2d piece of paper is a sphere.
It isn't a sphere, it is a 2d representation of a sphere. The same is how we perceive "deities" from a 3d earth.

Some concepts extend beyond the abilities of the logical mind,
Viz.

I like this post.

Although it's somewhat semantic, I've coined a phrase: "What one knows, he cannot prove. What one can prove, he cannot know."

The reason I say it's somewhat semantic is because I'm talking specifically to claims made at a 100% level of confidence. I can say, "The Sun feels warm" and know that claim to be true, so long as I directly experience the sensation of warmth from the Sun's rays. However, there is no way to prove to someone else that the warm sensation exists. I could take a thermometer and measure the temperature of the Sun's warmth and determine that it is "warm," relative to something else, but this just means that we are substituting evidence which indirectly suggests the Sun's rays are warm for the direct knowledge of the Sun's warmth experienced first-hand.

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Agreed my friend

Viz.

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Quote from: Videlicet on April 17, 2015, 01:17:22 PM

Prove your thoughts and emotions exists, wait, we can't.
All we can do is map the EM activation patterns in the brain to show us physical correlates to such emotion / thought.

The same is with the Source.
Science is just beginning to understand with the "Heisenberg uncertainty principal" which ironically shows us matter reacts to our awareness of it, wouldn't this be deemed more "certainty"?

As to "prove" god exists, that's like saying prove that this picture of a 3d sphere I drew on a 2d piece of paper is a sphere.
It isn't a sphere, it is a 2d representation of a sphere. The same is how we perceive "deities" from a 3d earth.

Some concepts extend beyond the abilities of the logical mind,
Viz.

You might be able to prove you exist to yourself. But after you don't exist any longer, you won't be able to prove anything.

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Prove your thoughts and emotions exists, wait, we can't.
All we can do is map the EM activation patterns in the brain to show us physical correlates to such emotion / thought.

The same is with the Source.
Science is just beginning to understand with the "Heisenberg uncertainty principal" which ironically shows us matter reacts to our awareness of it, wouldn't this be deemed more "certainty"?

As to "prove" god exists, that's like saying prove that this picture of a 3d sphere I drew on a 2d piece of paper is a sphere.
It isn't a sphere, it is a 2d representation of a sphere. The same is how we perceive "deities" from a 3d earth.

Some concepts extend beyond the abilities of the logical mind,
Viz.

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Quote from: the joint on April 17, 2015, 12:07:44 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 04:21:47 PM

We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.

We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.

We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.

What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.

No, the "darkness" is not called dark matter.

Also, about the sun, we've had satellites orbiting it for decades...

I know, I know. You like to play.

Look above. I said "We see darkness around the stars." Anybody who thinks about it knows that it is not darkness that we see. It is light that we see. If there is darkness, we don't see it. We simply recognize it as absence of light. The point is that my statements are a figure of speech that are grounded in reality somewhat.

While dark matter is hypothetical, the explanation for it is that it is, matter that we cannot see. Since we cannot see it, it is darkness. That's why it is called "dark matter." Since dark matter only makes up part of that which we do not see, only some of the darkness is dark matter. The rest is simply absence of light. This is what my statement indicates.

Get off the games (of course, only if you want to).

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Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 04:21:47 PM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 12:15:35 PM

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This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever

There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.

In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.

Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).

The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.

Prove it, one way or the other.

You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn

Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?

The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.

No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?

We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.

We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.

We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.

What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.

No, the "darkness" is not called dark matter.

Also, about the sun, we've had satellites orbiting it for decades...

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Quote from: Astargath on April 17, 2015, 09:45:27 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2015, 09:17:47 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 17, 2015, 06:57:13 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 04:21:47 PM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 12:15:35 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 11:55:36 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 11:11:10 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 09:13:39 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 07:20:37 AM

This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever

There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.

In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.

Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).

The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.

Prove it, one way or the other.

You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn

Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?

The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.

No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?

We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.

We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.

We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.

What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.

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To those who want to believe lies, others who point out the lies they believe, seem like trolls to them.

People who point out the lies that others believe, seem like trolls to those who want to believe the lies.

We don't know what the stars are. We don't know what dark matter is. All we have are a bunch of ideas and a few theories. Most of it doesn't fit together very well. Wake up and see that you are believing science fiction. The ideas and theories are nice stories, but we don't really know to what extent they are truth.

But we definitely know god exists right? And we actually know what stars are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star

We definitely know that God exists. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395.

We definitely know that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star says what stars are. We do not definitely know that it is the truth.

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We dont know if dark matter even exist and no one says it is a fact so i dont know what are you trying to say

There are those who say that dark matter exists.

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'Ideas and a few theories'' ''most of it doesnt fit together very well'' Im pretty sure all our ideas about stars and gravity and everything else works almost perfectly

When you look at the information about the stars being electric plasma rather than nuclear, you see that the common modern theories do NOT fit together very well, and that more than likely we are way off base with our common theories. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2015, 09:17:47 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 17, 2015, 06:57:13 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 04:21:47 PM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 12:15:35 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 11:55:36 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 11:11:10 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 09:13:39 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 07:20:37 AM

This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever

There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.

In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.

Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).

The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.

Prove it, one way or the other.

You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn

Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?

The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.

No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?

We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.

We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.

We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.

What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.

0/10 troll

To those who want to believe lies, others who point out the lies they believe, seem like trolls to them.

People who point out the lies that others believe, seem like trolls to those who want to believe the lies.

We don't know what the stars are. We don't know what dark matter is. All we have are a bunch of ideas and a few theories. Most of it doesn't fit together very well. Wake up and see that you are believing science fiction. The ideas and theories are nice stories, but we don't really know to what extent they are truth.

But we definitely know god exists right? And we actually know what stars are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star

We dont know if dark matter even exist and no one says it is a fact so i dont know what are you trying to say

'Ideas and a few theories'' ''most of it doesnt fit together very well'' Im pretty sure all our ideas about stars and gravity and everything else works almost perfectly

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Quote from: Astargath on April 17, 2015, 06:57:13 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 04:21:47 PM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 12:15:35 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 11:55:36 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 11:11:10 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 09:13:39 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 07:20:37 AM

This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever

There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.

In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.

Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).

The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.

Prove it, one way or the other.

You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn

Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?

The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.

No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?

We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.

We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.

We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.

What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.

0/10 troll

To those who want to believe lies, others who point out the lies they believe, seem like trolls to them.

People who point out the lies that others believe, seem like trolls to those who want to believe the lies.

We don't know what the stars are. We don't know what dark matter is. All we have are a bunch of ideas and a few theories. Most of it doesn't fit together very well. Wake up and see that you are believing science fiction. The ideas and theories are nice stories, but we don't really know to what extent they are truth.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 04:21:47 PM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 12:15:35 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 11:55:36 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 11:11:10 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 09:13:39 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 07:20:37 AM

This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever

There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.

In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.

Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).

The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.

Prove it, one way or the other.

You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn

Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?

The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.

No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?

We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.

We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.

We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.

What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.

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Hi username18333,

Nihilism stands against life, therefore it is not suitable as a value. Dale Wilkerson would agree with me; at least, I have not heard him agree with YOU!

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Quote from: Dale Wilkerson, Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy link=http://www.iep.utm.edu/nietzsch/#H4

Nevertheless, from time to time the values we inherit are deemed no longer suitable and the continued enforcement of them no longer stands in the service of life.

Nihilism is not in the service of life.

Quote from: http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/91-09-08.pdf

The writer Roget equates “license” with “anarchy, interregnum, mob rule, mob law, lynch law, nihilism, reign of violence”, in other words, the acts of the Canaanites

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Michelle Bachmann: Obama's poor relationship with Israel will bring the return of Jesus

http://www.jpost.com/Christian-News/Michelle-Bachmann-believe-Obamas-poor-relationship-with-Israel-will-bring-the-End-of-Times-398168

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Knowledge could but approximate existence.

Quote from: bl4kjaguar on April 16, 2015, 10:16:45 PM

survival is obviously the simplest explanation for these and also the NDE evidence that I posted earlier.

𝛹(𝑡, 𝛺) = ^ℏ⁄_{ℯ^𝑡sin 𝛺} is a simple model of physicality; however, this simplicity does not, necessarily, guarantee that it is accurate thereto.

Quote from: bl4kjaguar on April 16, 2015, 10:16:45 PM

It is easy to see why the personality is more than just the physical body in which it is housed

The brain’s observation of its own recurrent processing could beget “the personality” (bl4kjaguar) as a phenominological effect thereof.

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Hi joint,

On Page 85, it is said that you must first:
"quite thoroughly understand that there is something beyond the sensing of bodies which has no need of bodies."

I believe that the Eisenbeiss case and the rest of the AECES top 40, when taken together, is strong enough to refute humanism; survival is obviously the simplest explanation for these and also the NDE evidence that I posted earlier. It is easy to see why the personality is more than just the physical body in which it is housed; notice that a similar idea has recently been proven in biology, i.e. that life is more than just complicated chemistry.

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All new knowledge comes slowly. Be patient--and be masterful. But study the
information for it will not seep all over you by the closed book--EVER. Your own
destiny is of too great import for you not to know that which you should know to
control it. Read the following lessons many times because it will be a real foundation
upon which to build and then open up. You will find the information not only
emotionally philosophical but also equally satisfying from a very practical viewpoint
as well, for it will give you the wisdom of a Sage--as well as an intellectual--and that
alone is well worthwhile.

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Quote from: bl4kjaguar on April 16, 2015, 06:47:01 PM

The book with the proof is called:

HUMAN
THE SCIENCE OF MAN
THE SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION AND PROOF OF GOD
AND THE COSMIC ORDER OF THE UNIVERSE
WHAT IS CREATION AND HOW IT CAME TO BE

It is the 7th volume in a series, and you can find it here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_36.pdf

Cite me some pages to read. I'm not skimming through a book of that length because I already know that whatever information in the book will not support your claim of empirical proof for God.

So, I'd like you to cite some pages that reflect the reasoning behind your claim.

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The book with the proof is called:

HUMAN
THE SCIENCE OF MAN
THE SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION AND PROOF OF GOD
AND THE COSMIC ORDER OF THE UNIVERSE
WHAT IS CREATION AND HOW IT CAME TO BE

It is the 7th volume in a series, and you can find it here:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_36.pdf

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Quote from: bl4kjaguar on April 16, 2015, 05:30:22 PM

Quote from: bl4kjaguar on April 16, 2015, 01:28:56 AM

I suggest you reference Journal 21, Chapter 3 and Journal 31, Chapter 13; I propose the straightforward idea that God has come to speak with you and I through these Journals.

My proposal is modest; if this thread would but read, the truth about man and god would be known.

Your modest proposal must answer to my simple question: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11107528

Edit: What did you want me to specifically read about Pascal's Wager? You gave a link to a 500+ page book.

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Quote from: bl4kjaguar on April 16, 2015, 01:28:56 AM

I suggest you reference Journal 21, Chapter 3 and Journal 31, Chapter 13; I propose the straightforward idea that God has come to speak with you and I through these Journals.

My proposal is modest; if this thread would but read, the truth about man and god would be known.

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Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 12:15:35 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 11:55:36 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 11:11:10 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 09:13:39 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 07:20:37 AM

This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever

There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.

In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.

Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).

The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.

Prove it, one way or the other.

You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn

Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?

The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.

No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?

We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists.

We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist.

We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists.

What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 16, 2015, 11:55:36 AM

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Quote from: Astargath on April 16, 2015, 07:20:37 AM

This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever

There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together.

In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are.

Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is).

The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public.

Prove it, one way or the other.

You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn

Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are?

The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are.

No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling?

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