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legendary
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March 30, 2015, 09:57:09 AM
the evidence at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 is, the evidence at the link is proof that God exists, but the evidence that suggests that God doesn't exist can't hold a candle to the evidence that He does.

That link is simply evidence of you employing logical fallacies and intellectual dishonesty repeatedly.



I accept the idea that you have brainwashed yourself into thinking what ever you think about the info in the link. Anybody who can think, who reads through it can see the strong evidence showing that God exists. It is common knowledge brought out into the open. That's all.

Smiley

So far seems like everybody knows those are fallacies and the only brainwashed person here is you. Im sorry to tell you but you are brainwashed.

Actually, it's a small group of atheists who don't know that God exists. Well, they are welcome to their religion.

Smiley
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 09:51:51 AM
Why do you keep on resisting the knowledge that God exists when it has been proven to you, when you can prove it to yourself?
If you have proof of god then you have lost your faith in god. You cannot have proof and faith at the same time.
Why are you insisting people lose their faith in existence of god?
As I explained to you the last time you said this, faith doesn't have to be blind faith.

For example, if you hold up your closed hand and say, "I have a folded up $5 dollar bill in my closed hand," some people have faith that you are telling the truth. Others think that you are lying.

Those who have faith that you are holding a $5, can see your hand and you for a fact. So, they can have faith that the $5 might be there, 'cause they don't know you very well. Others who know you better, can see that you are there, and that you are holding up your hand (facts), but because they know you, they know that there is great probability that you are lying. Thus they have faith that there is NOT a $5 in your hand.


Wake up and see that God really DOES exist so that you can go the next step and see the good that He is all about... FOR YOU.
What next step? There is no next step.


Besides the above, you can't read very well, can you. Too much meth, right? Destroyed your abilities to think straight, right?

 Wink

Well thanks for pointing out that having faith in something doesnt mean it exists. You are making arguments against yourself now.

The only argument that I am making is the one that I am not making any arguments except the argument that I am not making any arguments.

You want proof for the existence of God? Read the stuff at this link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395.

Smiley

Already proven that everything there is just a bunch of fallacies, hell even when you tried to defend yourself you did it with another fallacy.

No. The only thing proven is that you can SAY a bunch of stuff about things being not proven.

Smiley
Nope i actually even gave you the definitions and the wikipedia page, i dont know what else do you want

Its like someone insulted someone else, i tell him he is insulting, he says he is not, i give him the definiton of an insult and he keeps saying he is not insulting, thats pretty much you right now.

Now you are getting really far out. Anybody can write things into Wikipedia. And you want to call that proof? The things that I express at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 are self-evident evidences that prove the existence of God. All you need do is think them out.

Smiley

"Self-evident evidences" is a contradiction.  The definition of "self-evident" means that no evidence is needed to know it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-evidence

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In epistemology (theory of knowledge), a self-evident proposition is one that is known to be true by understanding its meaning without proof.

The exception is that you can find many people who have so trained them against the evidence, that even if it is self-evident to most, it still won't be evident to them. It's called brainwashing, and they do it to themselves. As you can see from this thread, many atheists are among those who have so alienated themselves against what is self-evident, that it is necessary to call it evidence just to show them that it is something they can calculate their way through.

Smiley

No, there is no exception.  If a belief is based upon external evidence, then it is not self-evident.

Example:  It is self-evident that a bible is evidence of a bible.  It is not self-evident that a bible is evidence that God exists.

Example 2:  It is self-evident that complexity is complex.  It is not self-evident that complexity means something created it.
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 09:45:46 AM

Funny because we already explained you all the fallacies you are saying yet you still dont want to acknowledge it.

I don't acknowledge that God doesn't exist, because the evidence that shows that He exists is so overwhelming, and way beyond the evidence that suggests that He doesn't, that it would be foolish to even think that He might not exist.

Smiley

Not really. What would be foolish is listening to some clown claiming proof for something that is impossible to prove using science.
hero member
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March 30, 2015, 09:45:05 AM
the evidence at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 is, the evidence at the link is proof that God exists, but the evidence that suggests that God doesn't exist can't hold a candle to the evidence that He does.

That link is simply evidence of you employing logical fallacies and intellectual dishonesty repeatedly.



I accept the idea that you have brainwashed yourself into thinking what ever you think about the info in the link. Anybody who can think, who reads through it can see the strong evidence showing that God exists. It is common knowledge brought out into the open. That's all.

Smiley

So far seems like everybody knows those are fallacies and the only brainwashed person here is you. Im sorry to tell you but you are brainwashed.
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 09:34:11 AM
the evidence at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 is, the evidence at the link is proof that God exists, but the evidence that suggests that God doesn't exist can't hold a candle to the evidence that He does.

That link is simply evidence of you employing logical fallacies and intellectual dishonesty repeatedly.



I accept the idea that you have brainwashed yourself into thinking what ever you think about the info in the link. Anybody who can think, who reads through it can see the strong evidence showing that God exists. It is common knowledge brought out into the open. That's all.

Smiley
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 09:26:41 AM
the evidence at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 is, the evidence at the link is proof that God exists, but the evidence that suggests that God doesn't exist can't hold a candle to the evidence that He does.

That link is simply evidence of you employing logical fallacies and intellectual dishonesty repeatedly.

legendary
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March 30, 2015, 09:16:48 AM
I am a Muslim, The day I get convinced of a scientific proof that god exists is the day I become an atheist. The leap of faith is why god "in ibrahimic religions based belief systems" promised so much. People seeking "scientific proof" that god exists are just as stupid as the ones giving out proofs that god does not exist. In my humble opinion.

Would you believe that God exists if there weren't any religions, and no religious writings, and no knowledge of the heavens and the earth, and no religious people? Maybe, but probably not. All faith exists because of some evidence of some kind.

Pure blind faith in something is simply foolish, and really doesn't happen. Even atheists suggest that there is no God because they think that there is evidence in that direction. Because they can't come close to proving that there is no God, and because there are loads of things that show that God exists - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 - atheists are involved in a religion, and most of them don't even realize it.

Smiley
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 09:12:11 AM

Funny because we already explained you all the fallacies you are saying yet you still dont want to acknowledge it.

I don't acknowledge that God doesn't exist, because the evidence that shows that He exists is so overwhelming, and way beyond the evidence that suggests that He doesn't, that it would be foolish to even think that He might not exist.

Smiley
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 09:08:12 AM

The interesting thing about this cartoon and the evidence at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 is, the evidence at the link is proof that God exists, but the evidence that suggests that God doesn't exist can't hold a candle to the evidence that He does.

Smiley
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March 30, 2015, 09:06:41 AM
Why do you keep on resisting the knowledge that God exists when it has been proven to you, when you can prove it to yourself?
If you have proof of god then you have lost your faith in god. You cannot have proof and faith at the same time.
Why are you insisting people lose their faith in existence of god?
As I explained to you the last time you said this, faith doesn't have to be blind faith.

For example, if you hold up your closed hand and say, "I have a folded up $5 dollar bill in my closed hand," some people have faith that you are telling the truth. Others think that you are lying.

Those who have faith that you are holding a $5, can see your hand and you for a fact. So, they can have faith that the $5 might be there, 'cause they don't know you very well. Others who know you better, can see that you are there, and that you are holding up your hand (facts), but because they know you, they know that there is great probability that you are lying. Thus they have faith that there is NOT a $5 in your hand.


Wake up and see that God really DOES exist so that you can go the next step and see the good that He is all about... FOR YOU.
What next step? There is no next step.


Besides the above, you can't read very well, can you. Too much meth, right? Destroyed your abilities to think straight, right?

 Wink

Well thanks for pointing out that having faith in something doesnt mean it exists. You are making arguments against yourself now.

The only argument that I am making is the one that I am not making any arguments except the argument that I am not making any arguments.

You want proof for the existence of God? Read the stuff at this link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395.

Smiley

Already proven that everything there is just a bunch of fallacies, hell even when you tried to defend yourself you did it with another fallacy.

No. The only thing proven is that you can SAY a bunch of stuff about things being not proven.

Smiley
Nope i actually even gave you the definitions and the wikipedia page, i dont know what else do you want

Its like someone insulted someone else, i tell him he is insulting, he says he is not, i give him the definiton of an insult and he keeps saying he is not insulting, thats pretty much you right now.

Now you are getting really far out. Anybody can write things into Wikipedia. And you want to call that proof? The things that I express at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 are self-evident evidences that prove the existence of God. All you need do is think them out.

Smiley

"Self-evident evidences" is a contradiction.  The definition of "self-evident" means that no evidence is needed to know it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-evidence

Quote
In epistemology (theory of knowledge), a self-evident proposition is one that is known to be true by understanding its meaning without proof.

The exception is that you can find many people who have so trained them against the evidence, that even if it is self-evident to most, it still won't be evident to them. It's called brainwashing, and they do it to themselves. As you can see from this thread, many atheists are among those who have so alienated themselves against what is self-evident, that it is necessary to call it evidence just to show them that it is something they can calculate their way through.

Smiley

Funny because we already explained you all the fallacies you are saying yet you still dont want to acknowledge it.
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March 30, 2015, 09:06:00 AM
I am a Muslim, The day I get convinced of a scientific proof that god exists is the day I become an atheist. The leap of faith is why god "in ibrahimic religions based belief systems" promised so much. People seeking "scientific proof" that god exists are just as stupid as the ones giving out proofs that god does not exist. In my humble opinion.
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 09:03:57 AM
Why do you keep on resisting the knowledge that God exists when it has been proven to you, when you can prove it to yourself?
If you have proof of god then you have lost your faith in god. You cannot have proof and faith at the same time.
Why are you insisting people lose their faith in existence of god?
As I explained to you the last time you said this, faith doesn't have to be blind faith.

For example, if you hold up your closed hand and say, "I have a folded up $5 dollar bill in my closed hand," some people have faith that you are telling the truth. Others think that you are lying.

Those who have faith that you are holding a $5, can see your hand and you for a fact. So, they can have faith that the $5 might be there, 'cause they don't know you very well. Others who know you better, can see that you are there, and that you are holding up your hand (facts), but because they know you, they know that there is great probability that you are lying. Thus they have faith that there is NOT a $5 in your hand.


Wake up and see that God really DOES exist so that you can go the next step and see the good that He is all about... FOR YOU.
What next step? There is no next step.


Besides the above, you can't read very well, can you. Too much meth, right? Destroyed your abilities to think straight, right?

 Wink

Well thanks for pointing out that having faith in something doesnt mean it exists. You are making arguments against yourself now.

The only argument that I am making is the one that I am not making any arguments except the argument that I am not making any arguments.

You want proof for the existence of God? Read the stuff at this link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395.

Smiley

Already proven that everything there is just a bunch of fallacies, hell even when you tried to defend yourself you did it with another fallacy.

No. The only thing proven is that you can SAY a bunch of stuff about things being not proven.

Smiley
Nope i actually even gave you the definitions and the wikipedia page, i dont know what else do you want

Its like someone insulted someone else, i tell him he is insulting, he says he is not, i give him the definiton of an insult and he keeps saying he is not insulting, thats pretty much you right now.

Now you are getting really far out. Anybody can write things into Wikipedia. And you want to call that proof? The things that I express at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 are self-evident evidences that prove the existence of God. All you need do is think them out.

Smiley

"Self-evident evidences" is a contradiction.  The definition of "self-evident" means that no evidence is needed to know it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-evidence

Quote
In epistemology (theory of knowledge), a self-evident proposition is one that is known to be true by understanding its meaning without proof.

The exception is that you can find many people who have so trained them against the evidence, that even if it is self-evident to most, it still won't be evident to them. It's called brainwashing, and they do it to themselves. As you can see from this thread, many atheists are among those who have so alienated themselves against what is self-evident, that it is necessary to call it evidence just to show them that it is something they can calculate their way through.

Smiley
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 09:00:10 AM
Why do you keep on resisting the knowledge that God exists when it has been proven to you, when you can prove it to yourself?
If you have proof of god then you have lost your faith in god. You cannot have proof and faith at the same time.
Why are you insisting people lose their faith in existence of god?
As I explained to you the last time you said this, faith doesn't have to be blind faith.

For example, if you hold up your closed hand and say, "I have a folded up $5 dollar bill in my closed hand," some people have faith that you are telling the truth. Others think that you are lying.

Those who have faith that you are holding a $5, can see your hand and you for a fact. So, they can have faith that the $5 might be there, 'cause they don't know you very well. Others who know you better, can see that you are there, and that you are holding up your hand (facts), but because they know you, they know that there is great probability that you are lying. Thus they have faith that there is NOT a $5 in your hand.


Wake up and see that God really DOES exist so that you can go the next step and see the good that He is all about... FOR YOU.
What next step? There is no next step.


Besides the above, you can't read very well, can you. Too much meth, right? Destroyed your abilities to think straight, right?

 Wink

Well thanks for pointing out that having faith in something doesnt mean it exists. You are making arguments against yourself now.

The only argument that I am making is the one that I am not making any arguments except the argument that I am not making any arguments.

You want proof for the existence of God? Read the stuff at this link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395.

Smiley

Already proven that everything there is just a bunch of fallacies, hell even when you tried to defend yourself you did it with another fallacy.

No. The only thing proven is that you can SAY a bunch of stuff about things being not proven.

Smiley
Nope i actually even gave you the definitions and the wikipedia page, i dont know what else do you want

Its like someone insulted someone else, i tell him he is insulting, he says he is not, i give him the definiton of an insult and he keeps saying he is not insulting, thats pretty much you right now.

Now you are getting really far out. Anybody can write things into Wikipedia. And you want to call that proof? The things that I express at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 are self-evident evidences that prove the existence of God. All you need do is think them out.

Smiley

Funny because thats exactly what you are doing, anybody can write things here and you call it proof?? they are not self-evident they are fallacies but nice try Smiley

Some people believe the evidence; some people don't. Others believe other evidence that others don't. I respect your beliefs, and that you have the ability to believe them. Thank you.

Smiley
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March 30, 2015, 08:30:16 AM
Why do you keep on resisting the knowledge that God exists when it has been proven to you, when you can prove it to yourself?
If you have proof of god then you have lost your faith in god. You cannot have proof and faith at the same time.
Why are you insisting people lose their faith in existence of god?
As I explained to you the last time you said this, faith doesn't have to be blind faith.

For example, if you hold up your closed hand and say, "I have a folded up $5 dollar bill in my closed hand," some people have faith that you are telling the truth. Others think that you are lying.

Those who have faith that you are holding a $5, can see your hand and you for a fact. So, they can have faith that the $5 might be there, 'cause they don't know you very well. Others who know you better, can see that you are there, and that you are holding up your hand (facts), but because they know you, they know that there is great probability that you are lying. Thus they have faith that there is NOT a $5 in your hand.


Wake up and see that God really DOES exist so that you can go the next step and see the good that He is all about... FOR YOU.
What next step? There is no next step.


Besides the above, you can't read very well, can you. Too much meth, right? Destroyed your abilities to think straight, right?

 Wink

Well thanks for pointing out that having faith in something doesnt mean it exists. You are making arguments against yourself now.

The only argument that I am making is the one that I am not making any arguments except the argument that I am not making any arguments.

You want proof for the existence of God? Read the stuff at this link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395.

Smiley

Already proven that everything there is just a bunch of fallacies, hell even when you tried to defend yourself you did it with another fallacy.

No. The only thing proven is that you can SAY a bunch of stuff about things being not proven.

Smiley
Nope i actually even gave you the definitions and the wikipedia page, i dont know what else do you want

Its like someone insulted someone else, i tell him he is insulting, he says he is not, i give him the definiton of an insult and he keeps saying he is not insulting, thats pretty much you right now.

Now you are getting really far out. Anybody can write things into Wikipedia. And you want to call that proof? The things that I express at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 are self-evident evidences that prove the existence of God. All you need do is think them out.

Smiley

Funny because thats exactly what you are doing, anybody can write things here and you call it proof?? they are not self-evident they are fallacies but nice try Smiley
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 08:15:54 AM
Why do you keep on resisting the knowledge that God exists when it has been proven to you, when you can prove it to yourself?
If you have proof of god then you have lost your faith in god. You cannot have proof and faith at the same time.
Why are you insisting people lose their faith in existence of god?
As I explained to you the last time you said this, faith doesn't have to be blind faith.

For example, if you hold up your closed hand and say, "I have a folded up $5 dollar bill in my closed hand," some people have faith that you are telling the truth. Others think that you are lying.

Those who have faith that you are holding a $5, can see your hand and you for a fact. So, they can have faith that the $5 might be there, 'cause they don't know you very well. Others who know you better, can see that you are there, and that you are holding up your hand (facts), but because they know you, they know that there is great probability that you are lying. Thus they have faith that there is NOT a $5 in your hand.


Wake up and see that God really DOES exist so that you can go the next step and see the good that He is all about... FOR YOU.
What next step? There is no next step.


Besides the above, you can't read very well, can you. Too much meth, right? Destroyed your abilities to think straight, right?

 Wink

Well thanks for pointing out that having faith in something doesnt mean it exists. You are making arguments against yourself now.

The only argument that I am making is the one that I am not making any arguments except the argument that I am not making any arguments.

You want proof for the existence of God? Read the stuff at this link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395.

Smiley

Already proven that everything there is just a bunch of fallacies, hell even when you tried to defend yourself you did it with another fallacy.

No. The only thing proven is that you can SAY a bunch of stuff about things being not proven.

Smiley
Nope i actually even gave you the definitions and the wikipedia page, i dont know what else do you want

Its like someone insulted someone else, i tell him he is insulting, he says he is not, i give him the definiton of an insult and he keeps saying he is not insulting, thats pretty much you right now.

Now you are getting really far out. Anybody can write things into Wikipedia. And you want to call that proof? The things that I express at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 are self-evident evidences that prove the existence of God. All you need do is think them out.

Smiley

"Self-evident evidences" is a contradiction.  The definition of "self-evident" means that no evidence is needed to know it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-evidence

Quote
In epistemology (theory of knowledge), a self-evident proposition is one that is known to be true by understanding its meaning without proof.
legendary
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legendary
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March 30, 2015, 07:36:17 AM
Besides the above, you can't read very well, can you. Too much meth, right? Destroyed your abilities to think straight, right?

 Wink

You said about believing in god, not believing in religion.
Obviously there are next steps to take in religion.



Obviously. Believing in God should prompt you to take the next step... religion, if only to find out if God is your enemy or not. The details of religion are for other topics. This topic is for scientific proofs about God. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395.

Smiley

But then your worshipping the man-made religion, not god. Clearly that's the wrong step.


Except, of course, it it is the correct of God. You are such an of-topic, nonsensical Fluffer in all the Overblow that comes out of you.

Smiley

Which religion is the correct god?
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 07:33:03 AM
Besides the above, you can't read very well, can you. Too much meth, right? Destroyed your abilities to think straight, right?

 Wink

You said about believing in god, not believing in religion.
Obviously there are next steps to take in religion.



Obviously. Believing in God should prompt you to take the next step... religion, if only to find out if God is your enemy or not. The details of religion are for other topics. This topic is for scientific proofs about God. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395.

Smiley

But then your worshipping the man-made religion, not god. Clearly that's the wrong step.


Except, of course, it it is the correct of God. You are such an of-topic, nonsensical Fluffer in all the Overblow that comes out of you.

Smiley
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 07:30:00 AM
Besides the above, you can't read very well, can you. Too much meth, right? Destroyed your abilities to think straight, right?

 Wink

You said about believing in god, not believing in religion.
Obviously there are next steps to take in religion.



Obviously. Believing in God should prompt you to take the next step... religion, if only to find out if God is your enemy or not. The details of religion are for other topics. This topic is for scientific proofs about God. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395.

Smiley

But then your worshipping the man-made religion, not god. Clearly that's the wrong step.
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