Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 336. (Read 845572 times)

In your opinion of course, which we all know, is rank..

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Any time you decide to take a look at the way things are written the Bible, you will see that the Bible distinguishes between literal and figurative, right in the language it uses. So, when jokers like you yakety yak like this, it can absolutely be expected. You don't have a clue about what you are yacking.

In Genesis, it never says that God created the universe after the "universal war" between the angels and satan/followers. Also, it's clear you've never taken theology(Which all priests are required to do). To be honest, you should just stop talking BADecker. Even the priest at my local church would frown/laugh at what you've written. The Genesis portion of the bible is considered by most biblical historians to be Symbolic, and not literal, especially since back when these chapters were supposedly written, there Were No 24 hour Day Calendars aka The gregorian calendar did not exist yet, which is why "God creating the universe is 6 days" is regarded as Symbolic. You and whoever else believes that God created the world in 6 days is an idiot, and truly needs to go back to school. From that you can also see just how much the bible has been edited over the centuries(Genesis was edited), and why most of the things in there are symbolic or simply false.

Literally every sentence you write makes me feel like you dropped out of school in 3rd grade BADecker. At least research before you come up with bullshit that not even fellow christians would accept.

Not interested.

It's enough to know:

"In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth."

There was a great universal war between the "angels" of God, and "fallen angels" of Satan. This war brought the whole universe to disorder. The dregs of "material" coalesced in what the Genesis calls "the Earth."

From that point, God Himself rebuilt the universe in a period of 6 days. He also made mankind in the form of our first two original ancestors.

Moses figured out the basic truths about our beginning. He wrote it down in the first 5 books of the Bible. Obviously, the info in these books doesn't cover even a fraction of the knowledge that is out there. But it covers the things that people need to know to live a reasonable life on earth, and to be saved from death to eternal life.

Whatever God is, He developed in less than one day the complicated life that we know as mankind. He actually "breathed" a portion of Himself into the first man, so that mankind actually has a touch of God in himself.

Fill up on the themes of the Bible. Anything other than that will not produce beneficial results. Nobody can create mankind except God, Himself. Nobody can breathe the Spirit of God into man's nostrils so that man becomes a living soul.

Neither you, nor I, nor anyone else needs anything more than the themes of the Bible for eternal life.

BADecker: I challenge you to a duel, my knowledge of the emerald tablet's against your bible in a friendly fitbaw match, our turn, being the ball?

Hopfully the admins will send us a percentage of the bets as a donation lol, just for the increased trafic

Edit: You start the thread, so as not to hijack, let's see what we know?

Who should we fear, god or the devil?

What if they are the same entity?

It occured to me that you speaking of 'clay' tablet's may mean you think the emerald tablets are clay..

The emerald tablet is made of a form of emerald impervious to decay..

Personally, I think the emerald tablet is crap, and is nothing more than a watered down version of the origional emerald tablet's, of which there are 13.. I believe 3 are of a later date for some unknown reason that eludes me from time to time.. I could almost go as far to say, that these are the origional of the 10 commandments moses wrote on ararat.. again, same story, different country/diety..

Thoth teaches to do things for yourself, and not be afraid. Jesus says go through him, and fear.. and do things his way..

Both of these characters offer the lord of lords.. I guess in the bible, this is god. But in the emerald tablets:

Seated within the flower of radiance sit seven planets, Lords from the Space-Times above us, helping and guiding through infinite Wisdom, the pathway through time of the children of men. Mighty and strange, they, veiled with their power, silent, all-knowing, drawing the Life force, different yet one with the children of men. Aye, different, and yet One with the Children of Light. Custodians and watchers of the force of man's bondage, ready to loose when the light has been reached. First and most Mighty, sits the Veiled Presence, Lord of Lords, the infinite Nine, over the other from each the Lords of the Cycles; Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, The Sun, Venus, Mercury, and The Moon, each with his mission, each with his powers, guiding, and directing the destiny of man. There sit they, mighty and potent, free of all time and space. Not of this world they, yet akin to it, Elder Brothers they, of the children of men. Judging and weighing, they with their wisdom, watching the progress of Light among men.

So the Lord of Lord's, are not one, but 9 objects in the night sky. Remember, compare my version to the origional.. in no way does the emerald tablets mention half of what you have read here.. this is MY remix.. you read it here first

Hay back off Santa Clause is real... Dont b giving me nightmares for 2015 Christmas day no presents to wakeup for

They might not be any scientific proof that god exists or not its what one believes in and I know their is something else after life had too many experiences in life to now believe in something that is their but not their for others and in some cases also their for them and not others. When it comes down to this stuff where's the proof it not happened or ever been. Yet science are unfolding a lot of unanswered facts now we have the technology to probe into the unknown and turn fiction into fact that it happened or something is their..

Take worm holes for example as another one it cant happen can it? oh wait its already been proven that it can and happens a lot of the time but on a molecular scale. This was proven in 2010 Stephen hawkings proved this back  then but again people don't take believe on it and think hes insane for trying to prove such things exist.  So before hand wouldn't believe in such things. Anyone can believe in something even if its not sufficiently  proven to be their yet it is and science proves it later on when we have the tech to do so. Only matter of time I say before we know a lot more.

So when the same old question does god exists. Who knows only can answer that yourself if you are a believer in such things or does or does not exist. Maybe in time their will be scientific proof that leads to god being all around us. I believe in many different things in life its how one accepts things around him or her.

The OP did'nt say there was none.. he ASKED for proof of, and we're attempting better than you, to supply his demand?

Ps, you made that account just to speak to me?

I wish I could just put the proof online, but I cant post it, cause it would fry the brains of most un-educated, especially those who only believe in the bible.. Me, I'm just passing through..

So I would like to put my 2 cents on the OP. I saw 191 pages yea to much to read. Anyways there is no Scientific proof that God exists period. Also people believing in something that no one has ever seen is plain silly. We are all grown men and women here and people think that is real? So you believe in Santa Clause and the tooth fairy? The fact is that humans are weak and believing in a God makes you feel good and we want to feel good right? People that believe in God tell me why you do? What makes you so sure that he exists and telling me I have faith is not a answer.

1: The planet's are the elder brothers. The lord's of the cycles, are the planet's and their orbit's.

2: The throne you speak of, is here:

Until on a great day the command came from the Dweller of the Temple that I be brought before him. Few there were among the children of men who had looked upon that mighty face and lived, for not as the sons of men are the Children of Light when they are not incarnate in a physical body. I was chosen from the sons of men, and taught by the Dweller so that his purposes might be fulfilled, purposes yet unborn in the womb of time. For a long time I lived in the Temple, learning always and yet always more wisdom, until I, too, approached the light emitted from the great fire. He taught me, the path to Amenti, the underworld where the great king sits upon his throne of might.

Please note, that I view the 'Dweller' as the all seeing eye. The temple the all seeing eye reside's in is the temple of man, or more specifically, the temple of your head. Sometimes the truth is stranger than fact. The dweller reside's in the pineal gland

3: I am not convinced the underworld is 'underground' or 'hell', but under the earth, ie, beneath it in space, if there is a bottom to the planet..

The egyptian book of the dead is not how to live in death, for they viewed this life, as death, and as such, the underworld, MAY be the opposite side of the earth from their land's perspective.. only beyond the planet, somewhere.. out there.. in whatever direction, hence my interest in star maps.

I think we should start co-relating each others stories, and see what we come up with.. you have the knowledge I seek, and I have just opened your book up to you.

What if the 4 beasts were the cardinal point's, north, south, east, and west, but in their esoteric guise? More likely, they are the four magic squares representing the 4 watch-towers? I hope one day you realise, the hidden numerology in the bible will answer all your questions (I'm surprised you dont know of it, or acknowledge it's existance..) but all magic books point as reference, to your book, so it has something I have never read, but you have read, but just not added up?

Edit: Found your 4 beasts.. in a txt file, but sadley they dont copy n paste easily, in fact they are a mess, that I am too tired to clean up, so google: The Four Great Watchtowers of the Universe

My first external link: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienciareal/cienciareal06.htm

I realise that you are probably aware of these square's, but to call them evil is to say the devil had a hand in writing the bible, as they are most def in the bible

It also occured to me after posting my post before last: The 4 beasts (cardinal points) surrounded by eyes.. people. I have always viewed the four horsemen of the apocalypse, as the cardinal points, wether right or wrong, my opinion here is yet to be swayed..

Fuck me.. I'm selling BADecker the bible.. lol..

Well, I know that crowley was a devil worshipper, and dont condone his shit, but even nutters like him can write some good shit when on crack, or whatever it was in those days.. Crowley's atlantis.. Or The Emerald Tablet's also covers the atlantean flood, and explains how it was acheived.. the best version of this flood, I believe is contained in a txt named 'accessible remains of atlantis', though I forget the author at the moment.. rest assured, any documents you require that I mention, and you cant find online, I will be happy to send..

As a scientist (electronics/audio sound engineer to trade), I would be very sceptical of carbon dating, since as I mentioned previously, electronic testing device's are programmed to give pre-determined responses, to pre-programmed 'resistance's'.. meaning, they have been told what to say. I know this is a pathetic excuse for not trusting carbon dating, but it's not the carbon dating I dis-trust, but the device's that are like, to quote another member who earlier mentioned 'snakeskin salesmen' - a fitting answer..

Perhaps I may suggest, not to sway your belief, but to increase your understanding, that you read the emerald tablets in it's entirety just once..

The flood you mention is not the only one. Due to this, I am not qualified to know which is which..

Well, it's "eyes," plural. The Revelation clearly talks of the 4 Beasts before the Throne, that have eyes all around them. They are probably the 4 Wheels of Ezekiel's Chariot... full of eyes.

My question is, do we have any clear records from before the time of the Great Flood which took place between 2,400 and 2,500 B.C.? The library at Alexandria that was destroyed would have been one of these.

How secure are we that any clay tablets are from before the Great Flood? I haven't really done research on this. There are many arbitrary dates suggested, that certain things and writings are from before the Flood. They are arbitrary because the only real dating of anything that we have from before, seems to be C-14 dating, which has been shown to be inaccurate many times.

You must surely know he's read everything I posted since he ignored me.. Your god and mine are not that much different.. you cant keep the truth from the all seeing eye..

It makes me so happy that I can be the transfer medium.   

Oh, and it was ezekial who wrote of the ring with weels upon weels on it's face

The emerald tablets are much, much older, and contains the FIRST recording of the dude with this ring

Edit: I guess it goes without saying, that since time began, civilisation upon civilisation have lain claim to the one god being THEIR god, and no-one else's.. unless you go though someone, your fucked. This is why I think the bible is nonsense, it's the last version of the same story repeated throughout time, the question being, which son are we supposed to believe? If you only know of Jesus, fair do's, but what if, like me, you believe many different versions, and can see the hidden continuity, but have the problem of deciding.. which is the true son we have to go through?

So I chose thoth's book to figure it out, because it has no expectations, only that you do.

It's like, if I had a choice, Jesus wants me to do this and that, but thoth just shows the way to all, to do so themselve's, become LIKE jesus..

Edit; The bible leaves us no choice, we go through Jesus or suffer. Thoth shows us how to become like jesus, to be able to work the same kind of miracles.. and like Jesus, thoth also lays claim to returning, and even states when.

When we learn to control lightning.. The war has already started.. man against man, brother against brother..

Recently, a mobile phone company managed to get a phone to recharge with controlled lightning.

So it's not too long then, for the return of the savior then.. the problem is, the bible betrayed the secret's to the men of the north AND south, ie, us white folks

A mirror image of the fall of egypt, where they once worshipped Ra, only to be replaced by a plethora of gods, this is why many egyptian statues had only their faces ripped off, they did try to go back to one god, but it was too late, the damage was done..

It's like no matter where you are, same story, different countries/dieties..

Ugarit was built shortly after the Great Flood, or was repopulated then if it had been built before the Flood. By the time of Abraham, Ugarit had strongly turned toward the ideas that there are multiple Gods, even though they had clear training from Noah and his sons otherwise. Abraham, however, would not accept their ideas. This is the greater reason that God looked with favor on Abraham, called him the man of faith, and promised that he would be the father of many nations, and that the Seed, the Son of God, would come through the line of Abraham.