Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 386. (Read 845569 times)

If we lost our our star Sol then our power would be lost, life would die out. Some bacteria would sustain an ecosystem for a while near geothermal vents, living off the geothermal energy and chemistry, but the geothermal energy would itself decay as our whole system began to cool to near zero, only receiving miniscule heating from other systems starlight.

It's a situation even Jesus could not fix.

So really we should give thanks to Sol. And if you feel the urge to pray then by all means pray to Sol, pray that it will nourish us for another day.

Another good thing is that it's easy to prove the existence of Sol, you just gotta look at it and feel its warmth, no mystical nonsense required.

One bad thing about Sol is that it is the same and shared by every life form on the planet, this is bad for tyranny. Fictitious deity's are far more suited to dividing man. Sol will bring us together, and that is why Sol is all but ignored in the modern era where centralized control rules supreme.



Forget the nonsense the "priests" spout, see the true beauty!

Why look for abstract meaning when undeniable awe and beauty stares you right in the face? A long time ago every man woman and child "worshipped" sol, this worship was hijacked, its the reason for halos on supposed enlightened figures, sol was personified and then politicized and here we are today up shit creek!

You are so good, CryptoJerk. But, a couple of points.

The difference between Jesus and the rest is that He was the ONLY one Who had the essence of life in Himself. The others may have had power. Many may still have power. But the only one Who had the essence of life was/is Jesus.

Jesus didn't keep the essence to Himself. Rather, like Moses and others shared the good power that they had, Jesus shares life with all of us.

Now, because we all have life, and because of what God has made us to be with that life, we all have power, even though a good portion of that power isn't evident yet - most of us can't walk on liquid water very well.

God wanted life for us from the beginning. Because life is possibly the most important gift we have received from God, Jesus was esteemed greatly by God, when He shared life with us all. Because Jesus did this, God took Him to Heaven with Himself, and made Jesus to be God, equal with Himself, for all time and eternity... and outside of time... for ever and ever, even beyond eternity and infinity.

When Moses came down from the mountain after he had face God, and received the Ten Commandments, Moses' face was radiant (Probably his whole body was radiant with a kind of radiance that was blocked by his clothing.). This same radiance was with Moses when he met with God in the Tent of Meeting. But when Moses stepped out of the presence of God, the radiance gradually faded.

When Jesus met Moses and Elijah on the Mountain of Transfiguration, all of them shared the Heavenly radiance that does not fade. They talked about the up-coming work Jesus was going to do on the cross, where He would release life to all people. After they were done talking, Jesus put off the radiance and the glory so that He could finish the work in this life. But, He has taken it back up forever.

The point? God doesn't kid around. The only way we receive life and power is through Jesus. And, like Moses of old, when we receive some of the life and power in this life, it passes. So, focus on Jesus for the life and power that will come when God brings the new Heavens and new Earth into being and fulfillment.

Nah. Make the earth spin backwards and I might take a glance at that claim. Big claims. Small achievements.

That video starts off with a great example of pareidolia: in this case, seeing a meaningful connection between the distribution of clusters of galaxies, and the structure of a neuron. The truth is, if you look for patterns long enough, you will eventually find them, whether or not they are meaningful.

SHIT!! Stop fuckin with me bro. You've messed me up for the day. I'm gonna go activate my bong and think this shit through

all religion is purely bullshit, and everyone who uses it for unanswered questions about life are also retarded, i just go along with being a christian because it's the "norm"

PROOF that god makes mistakes!

Alow your mind to be blown once more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ASj0969dLw

mind = blown

we also take for advantage the fact that we live on a celestial body of mass that is moving through light years of space, which means that we could all be millions of years old in space time lol (Seriously)

i also feel that "humans" are from the moon. If you look up the etymology for moon, you find the word "men" and "mens". this means that the moon is actually a planet. Which also means that there are humans living on other planets, probably more evolved than us too

to answer the question is god real? I agree with the above post. We are our own gods. This is why everyone who has ever become a billionaire, millionaire or just super successful says it took "self belief" for them to get there

interesting stuff when you get down to it

It's a false premise that evidence is a necessary requirement for knowledge. Evidence yields empirical knowledge, but there also exists knowledge independent of evidence.  

It's an invalid argument to state there is no good reason to believe in something because there is no evidence for it, and in fact all empirical phenomena is a direct consequence of the abstract laws and principles they obey.

1)  Your belief that proving yourself and proving your belief amount to the same thing seems to contradict your belief that a theory of reality does not amount to explaining reality.  We can actually look to logic for understanding about the nature of relationships between similarities and differences, and in doing so we find that any and all differences *must* arise from similarities, i.e. "real" differences imply reductive similarities (e.g. sharing realness, etc.).  To this extent, at the most fundamental level of reasoning, objectivity and subjectivity, or absolutism and relativism, are the same.  This gives further credibility to the idea of a self-referential theory of reality.

2) All statements that we generate necessitate a presumption of absolutism, and it's impossible to avoid if you want to consider any thought or statement meaningful.  For example, consider the statement "truth is relative" and how it necessarily rides on the back of an unspoken assumption, namely that "it is the absolute truth that truth is relative."  To continue reinforcing the relativity of truth is to reinforce absolutism of the statement.  "Ratio" is the root word of rationale, thereby implying that all rational statements are relational ones, including statements about absolutism.

Denying any statement as absolute in *any* context (and not simply at the highest level of generality) 'a priori' renders the statement irrelevant.  I inferred that you were stating that it impossible to know anything absolutely based upon your statement that "a theory is by definition impossible" coupled with your assertion that a theorist is "unable to apprehend the infinities" that surround him (which isn't much of a concern, anyway).

3) I don't rebel against any statements for being considered absolute.  Absolutism and relativism are considered with regards to context, and I am most interested in the idea of forming an absolute (in terms of its scope of comprehension) theory of reality that is self-relational and describes its self in terms of itself.'

4) I used "avoided" as a catch-all for the other terms you mentioned.  Nevertheless, I responded to each of your points individually, but if you feel there are any I missed or misrepresented, please let me know.  

If there is no evidence that it's true, I see no reason to hear them out

Yes, it's based on the historical evidence and mathematical data provided to me.

Are you going to judge who is a moron without first finding out what they believe?

That is the same prejudice espoused by the "fundamentalists" and radicals.

Your prejudice is different???

Excellent the religious morons are turning on each other because of their own contradictory beliefs!

Christ said judge not lest we be judged.

Yours is not Christian behavior but the mere denouncing of a brother efforting to find his God Truth.

Matthew 7:2 Why do you notice the splinter in your brother’s eye yet fail to perceive the wooden beam in your own eye?

You can behave better than that, BADecker; Christ said anything He could do, you can do better (John 14:12)!

Is this better?

1) Anyone could have written that nonsense.
2) That's just superstition.

I'm joining in with you vod.. time to bring some color in this thread