So now we have given up on scientific proof and trying to argue that because science is complicated your better off believing in fairy tales. No thanks. I do understand science and find provable answers to my questions. Religion is dying out for a reason. Each year religion has to concede more ground to science because it's assertions become less believable.
For example, 30-40 years ago religious leaders refused to believe in dinosaurs. It was described as a hoax by scientists. Today that argument is so preposterous that no one would dare make it. Even evolution is slowly being accepted. Now some creationists talk of "micro-evolution". A made up idea to reconcile the obvious process of evolution that can been seen in a simple school experiment. The more you know and understand the world around you, the harder it is to believe in unicorns, sea monsters, and gods.
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Hey! We're getting some pictures that are almost as good as that Russian picture thread.
Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. That's all the higher sciences have. They don't even have witnesses.
Perfect love drives out fear. Come on over and stop being afraid. Convert to Christianity, and find the love so you can cast out the fear.
Oh, thanks. I had almost given up on you all, and gone to take a nap.
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Come on, guys. I know nobody likes to be proven wrong. But look. It's for your own good.
Consider. Even if science proved that the universe was billions of years old, and that evolution was the REAL thing, and that there was "pure random," and that all the marvels of the universe were really just happenstance, well, guess what? You'd never be able to understand it all anyway. It would take a computer the size of the earth to understand it all. You'd still be living on faith, even if you thought you knew that science had proven it all.
The point? Don't feel so bad that science is the weakest of the religions. Rather, come on over to the strongest religion - the Christian religion. After all, people simply aren't made to live without religion. Make it easy on yourselves. Convert!
Consider. Even if science proved that the universe was billions of years old, and that evolution was the REAL thing, and that there was "pure random," and that all the marvels of the universe were really just happenstance, well, guess what? You'd never be able to understand it all anyway. It would take a computer the size of the earth to understand it all. You'd still be living on faith, even if you thought you knew that science had proven it all.
The point? Don't feel so bad that science is the weakest of the religions. Rather, come on over to the strongest religion - the Christian religion. After all, people simply aren't made to live without religion. Make it easy on yourselves. Convert!
How predictable. All I have to do is ask you not to cop out, and now I can go take a nap.
Hey! We're on a good run here. Don't cop out. We have a chance at bringing this thread way up in page numbers.
And as with all online discussions about religion, it ends with irrational flaming and potshots
That's because that's all the other side has at it's disposal in reality, they use either threats of violence or insults to get their way when the science isn't on their side.
I've been noticing that about a lot of atheists when they find out that their science is religion.
Yeah, I especially like the part where you countered the facts laid before you about your precious Bible falling short on the whole 'word of god' shtick.
Henry VIII decides he wants to get divorced, voila! goodbye RC, say hello to the "Church of England", now, who do I have to behead to get a CofE Bible thrown together?
Henry VIII decides he wants to get divorced, voila! goodbye RC, say hello to the "Church of England", now, who do I have to behead to get a CofE Bible thrown together?
Just as I figured. You don't have anything else. So you go and pick on the failings of a human being. So, do you really think that your perfection is good enough?
...Says he who claims science is "weakest" and then provides absolutely no reasoning behind the statement whatsoever. It appears you're the one who has nothing else aside from two tactics: 1) Keep saying the Bible is right, and 2) attack people when they call you out on your bogus thinking.
Care to provide justification for your statements? I remember how you completely failed to create a deductive argument for claims homosexuality is "bad" and "unnatural" even when I created a template for you.
Care to try again?
Premise 1: Insert here
Premise 2: Insert here
Premises 3, 4, etc.: Insert here
Therefore: Science is the weakest with all of its "ifs"
There you go, sport. There's the template, all you need to do is fill in the premises to reach your conclusion. If you succeed, I (and I'm sure many others) will concede to a superior argument.
Make my day
Here it is about science. All science that can be used in daily life is practical. All the rest of it is based on "if." "If" means that science doesn't know. Science is fantasy, or else it is the weakest religion.
And as with all online discussions about religion, it ends with irrational flaming and potshots
That's because that's all the other side has at it's disposal in reality, they use either threats of violence or insults to get their way when the science isn't on their side.
How dull, you are simply resorting to your usual dishonest response of asking a question about something else when faced with a fact you don't like.
Well, you don't care about the facts. If you did, you'd become Christian.
Yeah, I especially like the part where you countered the facts laid before you about your precious Bible falling short on the whole 'word of god' shtick.
Henry VIII decides he wants to get divorced, voila! goodbye RC, say hello to the "Church of England", now, who do I have to behead to get a CofE Bible thrown together?
Henry VIII decides he wants to get divorced, voila! goodbye RC, say hello to the "Church of England", now, who do I have to behead to get a CofE Bible thrown together?
Just as I figured. You don't have anything else. So you go and pick on the failings of a human being. So, do you really think that your perfection is good enough?
...Says he who claims science is "weakest" and then provides absolutely no reasoning behind the statement whatsoever. It appears you're the one who has nothing else aside from two tactics: 1) Keep saying the Bible is right, and 2) attack people when they call you out on your bogus thinking.
Care to provide justification for your statements? I remember how you completely failed to create a deductive argument for claims homosexuality is "bad" and "unnatural" even when I created a template for you.
Care to try again?
Premise 1: Insert here
Premise 2: Insert here
Premises 3, 4, etc.: Insert here
Therefore: Science is the weakest with all of its "ifs"
There you go, sport. There's the template, all you need to do is fill in the premises to reach your conclusion. If you succeed, I (and I'm sure many others) will concede to a superior argument.
Make my day
And as with all online discussions about religion, it ends with irrational flaming and potshots
Oh, we're just having fun.
How dull, you are simply resorting to your usual dishonest response of asking a question about something else when faced with a fact you don't like.
And as with all online discussions about religion, it ends with irrational flaming and potshots
Yeah, I especially like the part where you countered the facts laid before you about your precious Bible falling short on the whole 'word of god' shtick.
Henry VIII decides he wants to get divorced, voila! goodbye RC, say hello to the "Church of England", now, who do I have to behead to get a CofE Bible thrown together?
Henry VIII decides he wants to get divorced, voila! goodbye RC, say hello to the "Church of England", now, who do I have to behead to get a CofE Bible thrown together?
Just as I figured. You don't have anything else. So you go and pick on the failings of a human being. So, do you really think that your perfection is good enough?
Yeah, I especially like the part where you countered the facts laid before you about your precious Bible falling short on the whole 'word of god' shtick.
Henry VIII decides he wants to get divorced, voila! goodbye RC, say hello to the "Church of England", now, who do I have to behead to get a CofE Bible thrown together?
Henry VIII decides he wants to get divorced, voila! goodbye RC, say hello to the "Church of England", now, who do I have to behead to get a CofE Bible thrown together?
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