Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 46. (Read 845591 times)

But God loves you so much that He lets you contradict Him all over the place, with the out-of-love hopes that you will be saved rather than destroy yourself. And He certainly doesn't destroy as you so deserve, since He is able to easily do that.

She can’t allow or disallow it because god is a figment of your imagination. She can’t destroy me because she only lives in the mind of you, David Koresh, and millions of other nutters.

She has turned someone into rock salt, caused a flood that killed almost everyone, killed children, killed women, created plagues that terrorized her creations and generally shown contempt for something she created.

She can’t allow or disallow it because god is a figment of your imagination. She can’t destroy me because she only lives in the mind of you, David Koresh, and millions of other nutters.

She has turned someone into rock salt, caused a flood that killed almost everyone, killed children, killed women, created plagues that terrorized her creations and generally shown contempt for something she created.

You are a complete nutter.

“Gods love” is the reason god is such a cruel asshole?

“Gods love” is the reason he hates us so he created us just to have something to hate?

“Gods love” is the reason he just wanted to create a species to torture for sport?

There are no explanations in this thread showing why god needs to be a cruel asshole. You just have no reasonable answer for it.

1. Unable to show why or how you know everything is designed - Fits the definition and description of things that are/have-been designed.

2. Unable to demonstrate that nothing is truly random or that everything has a cause. - Upheld by science because of the vast numbers of caused things, and the fact that no non-caused thing has ever been found. Scientific probability says that pure random does not exist. Argument contradicts itself because god would also need a cause. - The fact of God being God, shows that He is different. If He weren't, He would not be God. Because God is different, we don't know if God has needs or not. Argument does not show/indicate that the cause of the universe is a god. - Machines have makers.

3. ''Except that cause and effect are upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. And this means that everything is pre-programmed to exist the way it does.'' Newtons Law DOES NOT say that everything has a cause. ''For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.'' Note how it says ''for every action'' and not ''everything has a cause''. - So what? Find us an action that was not caused. This point essentially has to do with #2.

4. ''The universe system is extremely complex, via C&E. Yet we don't see anything that can make such complexity. We don't really see anything that is more complex being made by something less complex without greater loss in some other way to the less complex system.''  Complex is a vague word by itself. Complex in what sense? - So you are starting to understand how complex complexity really is, right? Brains, like many other complex things, are not irreducible complex. They're made up of simpler components combined according to a simple set of rules. If you have a process that applies (relatively) simple rules to (relatively) simple components in an iterative fashion, you can end up creating something much more complex than you can understand as a whole. - Yet the causing of complexity made up from simpler parts has its making in whatever started C&E. We have no certifiable example of anything having been set in place by something that was less complex, without greater complexity somewhere "up-line" C&E-wise  doing the C&E from simpler to greater complexity. This shows that the earlier greater complexity is even more complex than thought, because it was able to C&E greater complexity through lesser complexity, rather than simply reducing the complexity of itself to get the end complexity.


As always, very easy to dismantle your ''arguments''

The evidence of your own words shows that you are too ignorant to understand:
1. God's love, or;
2. The explanations that have been posted throughout this thread already.

So, it would be a complete waste of time to answer again.

So, are you going to answer this question nutcracker or will you just ignore it like all of the other questions you have no good answer to.

Why is your god such a cruel asshole? And if he hates us so much, why create us in the first place? Did he just want a species to torture for sport?