Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 514. (Read 845654 times)

Simple:

just don't bother trying to measure it and then shout "it's real" at the person you are trying to "prove" it to!

of course for this to "work" you must recalibrate your own internal understanding of the word "scientific", or better yet; not have that understanding in the first place!

edit: non sarcastic answer: you can't!

How can you prove something scientifically if it cannot be meassured?

oh noes murder!

think for yourself man, you have reduced yourself to cannon fodder, remember the "other side" thinks just the same.


well you're a real bundle of fun aren't you! you already wrote:

in that case i will use lowercase AND a smaller font from now on to refer to your fictional god.

i hold no ill will toward you, i just think you should relax and represent yourself rather than some other persons ideas (illogical ones at that!).

Yes my God allows the murder of such people; he allows murder when the right reason is present. Why wouldn't he?
Many people do not deserve to live their lives.
Also he does not like it when you refer to him as 'god', 'God' is a must.

LOL, let's hope so. But I think we'll be disappointed.

Does your god allow me to murder those infidels that believe in those fake ones?
If it doesn't, oh well, I'll just make it up as I go along and do it anyway. In the name of god.

1) Prove to me that he did and that it wasn't part of the evolution. Did he make Unicorns too?  
2) I don't feel esteemed because of that at all.
3) Prove to me that he exists and I'll acknowledge him.

Now are you talking about my God?
What if all these Gods up to now were fake, and I'm the first to discover the real one?

Lolwat
I love when people state facts based on not a single proof

My turn

Can we lay off the preaching. It annoying and pointless.
Also you didn't specify which god you was preaching about. Was it LaudaM's new one?

Several simple answers.

1. God wants companionship. He is great beyond understanding. He wants companionship that will match His greatness. That's why He made angels and people. The fact that there are different kinds of angels suggests that there might be a tremendously large number of different kinds of angels. We all have been created for His companionship.

2. God doesn't measure His value in gold. He can create all the gold he wants at any time he wants. Gold holds no value for Him. In fact, the whole universe holds no value for him. His value is in the glory he receives. He receives glory when people praise Him. People have been built with enough of Himself in them. They can recognize how GREAT and GOOD He is. Their recognition of such things, and their ultimate praise of Him, is like money in the bank of God. And God, Himself, praises people in certain ways, at certain times, for recognizing Him.

Think of how esteemed you feel when your friends or co-workers tell you that you did a good job with something that you did. It is similar with God. He did a good job at making this universe and people, and then offering them salvation when they failed. We should hold Him in highest esteem. GOD IS TREMENDOUSLY WONDERFUL AND GREAT!!! When we esteem Him, this is part of the glory He receives. It is as close to money in the bank that He can get.

3. God is so absolutely Great, that, if we can recognize His greatness, and praise Him, standing in awe of His Greatness, He will make things work out well for us, ultimately. For us to live and love God, and praise Him for the Greatness that He is, is better than not having existed at all. It is unfortunate that so many people are unwilling to recognize that He even exists. Such people have no use, either for themselves, or for God. If they will not turn and come to understand Him, they will have locked in their own destruction.

Consider how great that destruction will be. The fact that people have the ability to recognize how great God is, means that they are, themselves, in some ways as great as God. So the self destruction that people are bringing on themselves means that they are actually destroying some of that which is God-like. How do you destroy God? It would take a lot to destroy God. But that is virtually what people are doing to themselves when they push God out of their lives.

In the Revelation, there is a thing called the lake of fire, at the end-time of this universe. My take on it is that it will include, among other things, the dissolution of the whole universe, including the souls of the people and angels that don't accept Him. It will last forever - eternity to God is simply like another tool for Him to use. God will get His energy back, that He used to make the universe, everything in it, including the people and angels.

Fill yourself on God's Word, the Bible.

Very simple to proof anything here:

I can conclude that God, miracles, etc. exist.
There are, and what causes there is the faith of those who believe in them. It is a subjective concept, if you do not believe, so will not exist for you.

It is equal if we consider the bitcoin and any other asset, if not the faith, would be worthless or not exist.

Quotes an economics class:

So there is no way to relate science with religion. And not to proof.

Sorry the GoogleTranslator.

Calm down bro
Don't dare compare my existing god with the imaginary one from Christians' sick minds

i haven't read all thread, but i have an easy question: why a perfect entity had the urge to create men?

honestly i have a bunch of simple questions since my childhood that never got a satisfing answers; maybe someone here could shake my opinions ...

Now let's fast forward 2000 years from now. LaudaM and this forum has long long been lost in time. People still follow this god, someone (author unknown) even wrote a book, unfortunately over the years bits have been removed, changed and added. Stick in a few miracles to jazz it up a bit.

Strangely more people would be more willing to believe this god than they do now. It's as if obscurity and time gives it more genuineness.



Your talking in riddles now. Just a plain yes or no will suffice.

This is what I'm trying to say.
How can you disapprove my God now? Have I not seen one because it's year 2014 and I'm on the internet?
Theoretically we would have a new God that is only a day old and has 1 follower for now. I could spread it, would it mean that it is more true if more people followed me?
In this scenario any random person could have a (or make up one) God and it might be the same God as everyone else's, but doesn't have to be.

You answered yourself when answering LaudaM. If I answered you, you wouldn't believe me. And if I asked you, you wouldn't answer any better than you did LaudaM.

So is that a yes or a no?



This is actually a very interesting point. Anyone can create a god. Proof it doesn't exist? No, can't? Well it must exist then.

And this new god exists no more or no less than any other god. The only difference is the age and the number of followers.

No, it is because these days the pendulum of a broken universe is swinging ever more slowly towards bottom dead center. People are not as capable as they were, even a hundred years ago. Because of this, two things are happening. The population is growing because people do not have enough sense to abstain on their own until they are in a position where they can support the kids. And the other thing is that people don't have as much strength to resist the Devil's deception that there is no God.

Because people before were un-educated fools who believed in witches and all nonsense. Yes, I agree on this part.
With education there comes doubt, and the need for proof.
If I tell you that I had seen a God, a new one that is different from anything else? Would you believe me now? No.
The people in the past would have.