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September 06, 2015, 01:01:51 PM
Let's see here, is it at all possible to make anymore FUD than this Topic already has.  Please Soylent, ThePhwner, Cryptodevil, we need more FUD.  Come on, think of some more creative things to FUD about, better yet, go to StakeMiners and make more FUD there, I am sure everyone would find it quite enjoyable Tongue.  At any rate, if this is all this thread has to offer is a bunch of repeating statements and not a damn thing new.  Really no point in letting it continue on.  Mods really ought to just lock the thread and leave it at that, anyone who wants to know the information about scc, can already see the umpteen posts by everyone on both sides and could make their decisions based on what is already posted.

I find it funny that you call out myself, Cryptodevil, and Soylent, yet say nothing of ThorSWO, rrocket, Kenny, and so forth, the obvious shills for ScryptCC. If you want me, in particular, to shut up, then you'll need to get the shills to stop posting their drivel and lies. I am able to back up my claims with evidence. The counter point seems to be "Nuh uh" or "fuck you" or "that's not true", and so on. And LMGTFY is right, as long as people keep searching this thread, they need to be able to find real resources to research the site and not just shill nonsense that's not only false, but will cause them to lose money. If you're annoyed at seeing me post the same stuff over and over, then I've done what I intended to do. It means its prevalent enough that people can't miss it and they shouldn't.

EDIT: This snippet from the Russian thread made me LOL:

"There is good news, good news. It's like saying -The man is dead, but the good news is the heat is not strong and he has not yet begun to stink."

Пoявилиcь xopoшиe нoвocти, xopoшиe нoвocти. Этo кaк cкaзaть -тoт чeлoвeк мepтв, нo ecть xopoшaя нoвocть жapa нe cильнaя и oн eщe нe нaчaл вoнять. Cheesy
Bce эти включeния и выключeния, aвтoпoкyпкa, вceвoзмoжныe пepeвoды и тп cдeлaны для пoддepжaния aктивнocти пpoeктa c цeлью пpoдoлжeния oбcyждeния нa фopyмax и oкyчивaния мeчтaний "a вдpyг вocкpecнeт".

True enough on all points. Only reason I called you three out is because I forgot everyone elses names ;P. At any rate the name calling, berating crap, if it stopped, would probably make things a bit less hostile and more palatable to actually read if both sides could handle that.  Not that I really would expect that, still would be a nice change of pace.
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September 06, 2015, 12:53:44 PM
Scrypt.cc didn't get hacked. WE GOT HACKED. BY SCRYPT.CC. And the evidence is quite substantial if you look a few pages back. I took a $100 loss from the manipulated khs price spiraling downward. People will do anything for money and "Marcello" is one of those people. Its all just a game. A ponzi game at that. The last time he officially showed up was back in July so that should tell you that he's operating behind the scenes coming up with master plans to try and extend the life of the site to make even more money. Its called greed. And as long as people continue to deposit more money there it won't stop. But here's the catch:



WHATEVER MONEY YOU PUT IN YOU CANT GET OUT.

Good luck with that. Cheesy
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September 06, 2015, 12:34:16 PM
Let's see here, is it at all possible to make anymore FUD than this Topic already has.  Please Soylent, ThePhwner, Cryptodevil, we need more FUD.  Come on, think of some more creative things to FUD about, better yet, go to StakeMiners and make more FUD there, I am sure everyone would find it quite enjoyable Tongue.  At any rate, if this is all this thread has to offer is a bunch of repeating statements and not a damn thing new.  Really no point in letting it continue on.  Mods really ought to just lock the thread and leave it at that, anyone who wants to know the information about scc, can already see the umpteen posts by everyone on both sides and could make their decisions based on what is already posted.

I find it funny that you call out myself, Cryptodevil, and Soylent, yet say nothing of ThorSWO, rrocket, Kenny, and so forth, the obvious shills for ScryptCC. If you want me, in particular, to shut up, then you'll need to get the shills to stop posting their drivel and lies. I am able to back up my claims with evidence. The counter point seems to be "Nuh uh" or "fuck you" or "that's not true", and so on. And LMGTFY is right, as long as people keep searching this thread, they need to be able to find real resources to research the site and not just shill nonsense that's not only false, but will cause them to lose money. If you're annoyed at seeing me post the same stuff over and over, then I've done what I intended to do. It means its prevalent enough that people can't miss it and they shouldn't.

EDIT: This snippet from the Russian thread made me LOL:

"There is good news, good news. It's like saying -The man is dead, but the good news is the heat is not strong and he has not yet begun to stink."

Пoявилиcь xopoшиe нoвocти, xopoшиe нoвocти. Этo кaк cкaзaть -тoт чeлoвeк мepтв, нo ecть xopoшaя нoвocть жapa нe cильнaя и oн eщe нe нaчaл вoнять. Cheesy
Bce эти включeния и выключeния, aвтoпoкyпкa, вceвoзмoжныe пepeвoды и тп cдeлaны для пoддepжaния aктивнocти пpoeктa c цeлью пpoдoлжeния oбcyждeния нa фopyмax и oкyчивaния мeчтaний "a вдpyг вocкpecнeт".
legendary
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September 06, 2015, 12:25:57 PM
Let's see here, is it at all possible to make anymore FUD than this Topic already has.  Please Soylent, ThePhwner, Cryptodevil, we need more FUD.  Come on, think of some more creative things to FUD about, better yet, go to StakeMiners and make more FUD there, I am sure everyone would find it quite enjoyable Tongue.  At any rate, if this is all this thread has to offer is a bunch of repeating statements and not a damn thing new.  Really no point in letting it continue on.  Mods really ought to just lock the thread and leave it at that, anyone who wants to know the information about scc, can already see the umpteen posts by everyone on both sides and could make their decisions based on what is already posted.

Locking the thread will not change the fact that the site is stealing money and might make it more difficult for newbies to figure out what's going on.

In any case - mods won't lock a thread because somebody doesn't like it.
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September 06, 2015, 12:19:01 PM


Yea, I knew what FUD stands for, I was mistaken on the UD Part but Def. got the F working for them.

Either way you are probably right, closing the thread would probably just have it pop up somewhere else.

Beyond that, it's all getting quite old, same repeat over and over again on both side, if you have nothing new to say, please for god's sake just quit it, Seems like Bitcointalk forum all the way around, at least for the past while is all the same people posting the same exact thing over and over and over, with absolutely no new and original thoughts.
I notice it on Altcoin Discussions, HYIP Discussions etc. Even in the hardware section.

Almost like Cryptocurrency in general somehow got stuck in a time loop and no one has anything original to say anymore.

Well, if you're finding it repetitive, you can simply ignore this thread - click the "watch" link and you'll get a dialogue asking if you want to watch/unwatch the thread (you watched it automatically when you posted here, so clicking OK will unwatch).

Beyond that, I continue to believe there's value posting here. If people search for scrypt.cc, they're likely to end up here. For that reason it's useful that they see the numerous links to resources about scrypt.cc - otherwise they might end up like many of the poor souls here, unable to withdraw.

I know what you mean about the sections, though - I stumbled across the Russian equivalent of this thread the other day. The only noticeable difference seems to be that they regard scrypt.cc as a HYIP scam rather than a ponzi.
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September 06, 2015, 12:11:05 PM
Let's see here, is it at all possible to make anymore FUD than this Topic already has.  Please Soylent, ThePhwner, Cryptodevil, we need more FUD.  Come on, think of some more creative things to FUD about, better yet, go to StakeMiners and make more FUD there, I am sure everyone would find it quite enjoyable Tongue.  At any rate, if this is all this thread has to offer is a bunch of repeating statements and not a damn thing new.  Really no point in letting it continue on.  Mods really ought to just lock the thread and leave it at that, anyone who wants to know the information about scc, can already see the umpteen posts by everyone on both sides and could make their decisions based on what is already posted.

Except that as soon as the thread is locked the shills will spring up somewhere else.

Incidentally, "FUD" is fear, uncertainty and doubt. I don't see Soylent, ThePhwner and Cryptodevil trading much in uncertainty and doubt - they all seem pretty good at evidencing their claims. Read back over the last few pages and see how good the pro-scrypt.cc folk like ThorSWO are at backing up their claims.

Fear? Now fear I can agree with. The more I see of scrypt.cc - the more I see of "cloud mining" in general - the more I see reasons to be wary. I'm really glad that - through luck more than good sense - I missed the boat with cloud mining.

Yea, I knew what FUD stands for, I was mistaken on the UD Part but Def. got the F working for them.

Either way you are probably right, closing the thread would probably just have it pop up somewhere else.

Beyond that, it's all getting quite old, same repeat over and over again on both side, if you have nothing new to say, please for god's sake just quit it, Seems like Bitcointalk forum all the way around, at least for the past while is all the same people posting the same exact thing over and over and over, with absolutely no new and original thoughts.
I notice it on Altcoin Discussions, HYIP Discussions etc. Even in the hardware section.

Almost like Cryptocurrency in general somehow got stuck in a time loop and no one has anything original to say anymore.
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September 06, 2015, 11:52:37 AM
Let's see here, is it at all possible to make anymore FUD than this Topic already has.  Please Soylent, ThePhwner, Cryptodevil, we need more FUD.  Come on, think of some more creative things to FUD about, better yet, go to StakeMiners and make more FUD there, I am sure everyone would find it quite enjoyable Tongue.  At any rate, if this is all this thread has to offer is a bunch of repeating statements and not a damn thing new.  Really no point in letting it continue on.  Mods really ought to just lock the thread and leave it at that, anyone who wants to know the information about scc, can already see the umpteen posts by everyone on both sides and could make their decisions based on what is already posted.

Except that as soon as the thread is locked the shills will spring up somewhere else.

Incidentally, "FUD" is fear, uncertainty and doubt. I don't see Soylent, ThePhwner and Cryptodevil trading much in uncertainty and doubt - they all seem pretty good at evidencing their claims. Read back over the last few pages and see how good the pro-scrypt.cc folk like ThorSWO are at backing up their claims.

Fear? Now fear I can agree with. The more I see of scrypt.cc - the more I see of "cloud mining" in general - the more I see reasons to be wary. I'm really glad that - through luck more than good sense - I missed the boat with cloud mining.
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September 06, 2015, 11:36:08 AM
quote author=Meepers link=topic=444495.msg12344099#msg12344099 date=1441549736]
Haha, it's absolutely insane that this website is still being used....

Many people like me are just stuck inside... we are hostages Undecided

Oh cut the crap.
How hard is it to just sell, withdraw and never look back?
I own a ton of MHS and I could be out in a few days tops.
Find a better excuse.

I tried already 3 times and for 3 times my coins got back with auto invest on. So that's I'm saying we are hostages

I agree. I've made over 25 withdraw requests in the past month. Only one was honored. The rest were canceled. We ARE hostages.
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maybe scrypt cc only accept small withdraw  Undecided
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September 06, 2015, 11:35:18 AM
Let's see here, is it at all possible to make anymore FUD than this Topic already has.  Please Soylent, ThePhwner, Cryptodevil, we need more FUD.  Come on, think of some more creative things to FUD about, better yet, go to StakeMiners and make more FUD there, I am sure everyone would find it quite enjoyable Tongue.  At any rate, if this is all this thread has to offer is a bunch of repeating statements and not a damn thing new.  Really no point in letting it continue on.  Mods really ought to just lock the thread and leave it at that, anyone who wants to know the information about scc, can already see the umpteen posts by everyone on both sides and could make their decisions based on what is already posted.
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September 06, 2015, 09:28:56 AM
Haha, it's absolutely insane that this website is still being used....

Many people like me are just stuck inside... we are hostages Undecided

Oh cut the crap.
How hard is it to just sell, withdraw and never look back?
I own a ton of MHS and I could be out in a few days tops.
Find a better excuse.

I tried already 3 times and for 3 times my coins got back with auto invest on. So that's I'm saying we are hostages

I agree. I've made over 25 withdraw requests in the past month. Only one was honored. The rest were canceled. We ARE hostages.
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September 06, 2015, 08:51:16 AM
Scrypt.cc has been around a long time there have been a lot of problems come and go.  

The longevity of the site has zero relationship to the status of the operation. For the majority of it's life it was in a near-abandoned state, remember?

Or are you intentionally forgetting 'Marcello' had his near-death-experience-world-tour-buying-super-secret-secret-scrypt-asics performance earlier this year?
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September 06, 2015, 08:48:38 AM
Mods should just lock this thread.

Not sure if that would help much. A new thread would almost certainly pop up.
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September 06, 2015, 08:46:49 AM
I know right. After all this time. Well you know what they say in crypto that if the roi is way shorter than the competition then its too good to be true  Smiley

The "roi" is set by what people are willing to pay for the MHS (was KHS) being sold.   That has nothing to do with scrypt.cc being a scam or not.   The prices are very low per MHS because the yield is very low.   It was set to 20% after the hack and never restored.    Prices just adjusted to the lower return.   It is a free market.   That is all. 

If the yield goes down the ROI point should be further away, no?
That is true for hashing power already held.  Likewise when the yield goes up the break even point can be hit sooner.   Generally the yield is down with mining.   However the price of the MHS is controlled by the market, not by scrypt.cc.     

It's funny how you casually mention "mining" in this context even though it has nothing to do with scrypt.cc. You aren't trying to pass some kind of subliminal message implying that scrypt.cc is mining, are you? Smiley

By the way when LTC profitability jumped up recently what happened to scrypt.cc rewards? Right.

As for "market" - of course it's controlled by scrypt.cc because:

1) scrypt.cc controls the rewards - obviously.
2) scrypt.cc controls the supply by making their own MHS out of thin air and stealing customers' MHS (the 37000 issue not even acknowledged by the admin).
3) scrypt.cc controls the demand by meddling with withdrawals and auto-invest.
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September 06, 2015, 08:39:53 AM

It doesn't matter if you "believe it to be true" or not, both of these points are true. Rounding down meant a loss of KHS and there suddenly was close to 6000 GHS available in the order book following the conversion. Please provide factual evidence to the contrary as your beliefs are not mathematical proof.


This is a straight up lie LOL.
This never happend.

You are the straight up liar.
The rounding down DID happen to many users.
So please take your shilling and stuff it where the sun don't shine.

Don't bother posting any TX ids for proof of your claims either, we are not going to believe anything that you post, even if it is true.

#boycriedwolftoomanytimes
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September 06, 2015, 08:36:13 AM


This is a straight up lie LOL.
This never happend.

While we're on the subject... you told us you'd received two 4 BTC withdrawals. Despite a lot of hand-waving and the inevitable "retro-chic" homophobic slurs you've not ponied up yet. I'm certain that's an oversight on your part and you'll rectify it now. You wouldn't want people thinking you're - gasp! - a liar now, would you?!



Well, it's just that it doesn't entirely seem to be the right direction. I kinda thought there'd be at least one 4 BTC transaction there. But I've just scrolled through the 5th September down to the 1st September, and no 4 BTC Sad

For folks playing along at home, I used btc.blockr.io - https://btc.blockr.io/address/info/1Bidh2XFr9JzfXppeZd2cPKpbnJGvqCY4h - and kept clicking the "show more transactions" button until I got to the 1st September. Then I did a CTRL-F (or CMD-F) in Chrome and searched for "Amount: -4". That came up blank.

False.
I recieved 2 withdraws over 4 BTC.

Bump.

ThorSWO, when you were answering other people's posts, you appear to have overlooked this one. Any updates? A transaction ID (or two) showing 4 BTC transfers?
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September 06, 2015, 08:17:05 AM

It doesn't matter if you "believe it to be true" or not, both of these points are true. Rounding down meant a loss of KHS and there suddenly was close to 6000 GHS available in the order book following the conversion. Please provide factual evidence to the contrary as your beliefs are not mathematical proof.


This is a straight up lie LOL.
This never happend.
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September 06, 2015, 08:08:50 AM
7. When KHS was converted to MHS, the overall availability went from 850 "GHS" to 6000 "GHS" with no explanation

7a. During this conversion rounding was used and many people lost KHS

I don't believe either of those points are true.   The amount of KHS owned and traded has been 500 GHS for some time.   The trading levels since the conversion are 1000 times less than they were before the conversion.   Also left over KHS was converted to BTC, it is just it isn't much BTC for less than 1 MHs.


It doesn't matter if you "believe it to be true" or not, both of these points are true. Rounding down meant a loss of KHS and there suddenly was close to 6000 GHS available in the order book following the conversion. Please provide factual evidence to the contrary as your beliefs are not mathematical proof.


this is probably the one of the longest on going scam I've ever known.
I know right. After all this time. Well you know what they say in crypto that if the roi is way shorter than the competition then its too good to be true  Smiley

The "roi" is set by what people are willing to pay for the MHS (was KHS) being sold.   That has nothing to do with scrypt.cc being a scam or not.   The prices are very low per MHS because the yield is very low.   It was set to 20% after the hack and never restored.    Prices just adjusted to the lower return.   It is a free market.   That is all.  


The ROI is a constantly moving target. Every time there's some sort of "incident," the commodity is devalued and ROI for currently held shares drops. However, since the commodity is now cheaper, investors can, and are encouraged to, buy additional KHS/MHS/UnicornHS to "bring down" the overall ROI timeline. Notice any patterns here? Notice anyone actually ROI'in on their buy-in point of 1200 satoshi per KHS? Yeah. Me neither.

And to your other point, this isn't a free market. It's manipulated by the owners on one side, releasing new KHS/MHS as they choose and creating fictitious events to manipulate the price; it's manipulated on the other side by slightly tech savvy users who have figured out how to exploit a 3rd-rate website with 4th-rate code and a 10th-rate trading engine. If you think ScryptCC's orderbook constitutes a free market you need to go back to the Econ 101 texts.
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September 06, 2015, 07:17:36 AM

That is true for hashing power already held.  Likewise when the yield goes up the break even point can be hit sooner.   Generally the yield is down with mining.   However the price of the MHS is controlled by the market, not by scrypt.cc.     

Are you talking about the market in trade page of scrypt.cc site or the general real market outside Huh

The market on trade page. 

Well as a matter of fact.....those figures are nothing.....nor does anything depends on that.
Because in the past we have seen bots coming up and controlling the price.....

A nice observation clearly showed that more that 70% buy and sell orders are with same amount of khs and price....and also gets cancelled instantly....

So I will say 15 % may be controlled by the people but rest are bots.

Wouldn't have to be bots since the whole thing is centrally controlled, can manipulate the market from the inside and that is the danger.
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September 06, 2015, 06:39:06 AM

That is true for hashing power already held.  Likewise when the yield goes up the break even point can be hit sooner.   Generally the yield is down with mining.   However the price of the MHS is controlled by the market, not by scrypt.cc.     

Are you talking about the market in trade page of scrypt.cc site or the general real market outside Huh

The market on trade page. 

Well as a matter of fact.....those figures are nothing.....nor does anything depends on that.
Because in the past we have seen bots coming up and controlling the price.....

A nice observation clearly showed that more that 70% buy and sell orders are with same amount of khs and price....and also gets cancelled instantly....

So I will say 15 % may be controlled by the people but rest are bots.
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September 06, 2015, 06:13:37 AM
The "ROI", days to breakeven isn't constant.  You can see it varies a lot.  www.sccstats.com

It seems there are a lot of people here talking about scrypt.cc without any direct experience.    Right now the major issue is withdraws are very slow.   There are several other pending issues:
 

The people always try to reach the 'old' ROI of 60 Days. Market _always_ adapts to achieve this.
At the moment it's 56 Days again.

And of course it varies. No wonder if admin keep droping the reward, crashing the server, changing
elementary things on the site and fucking around with the members.

And my direct experience, after near 12 Month is more than sufficient to judge.

"Scrypt.cc has been around a long time there have been a lot of problems come and go."
Underlines my point even more.
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