[SDC] ShadowCash Uncensored: Zeuner, Zero Knowledge, Zero Trust. What Happened? - page 15.

Wheatclove

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Quote from: Wanderlust on October 07, 2015, 04:48:25 PM

Quote from: LongAndShort on October 07, 2015, 04:22:41 PM

I'm just stating a blazingly clear obvious! only you cant accept it. so keep banging on about your rubish and not doing the right things to be heard its cool.
We dont need you anyways, never have.

You insisted I create a new thread. Here it is. It is your prerogative to follow me into it and insult me further.

Self-moderated threads are not as trustworthy as regular threads. To me this is obvious.

Should I start a poll to establish BCT consensus on this? As if you care.

Your opinion is not fact. Consensus does not affect truth. Your generalization is proven wrong by all of the questionable posts that remain in the moderated Shadow announcement thread.

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Quote from: LongAndShort on October 07, 2015, 04:22:41 PM

I'm just stating a blazingly clear obvious! only you cant accept it. so keep banging on about your rubish and not doing the right things to be heard its cool.
We dont need you anyways, never have.

You insisted I create a new thread. Here it is. It is your prerogative to follow me into it and insult me further.

Self-moderated threads are not as trustworthy as regular threads. To me this is obvious.

Should I start a poll to establish BCT consensus on this? As if you care - the vapours from all your boot polish probably messed up your cognitive processes again.

LongAndShort

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I'm just stating a blazingly clear obvious! only you cant accept it. so keep banging on about your rubish and not doing the right things to be heard its cool.
We dont need you anyways, never have.

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Quote from: LongAndShort on October 07, 2015, 04:11:33 PM

Quote from: child_harold on October 07, 2015, 04:08:29 PM

Quote from: LongAndShort on October 07, 2015, 01:25:16 PM

Quote from: funnyman21 on October 07, 2015, 10:22:08 AM

Moderated threads often lead to a circle jerk culture where opposing viewpoints and tough questions are moderated and ignored.

Group 1: This may be a good thing for those with large bags of coins because they have an incentive to keep the circle jerk going for as long as possible while they unload their coins to unsuspecting noobs.

Group 2: Moderated circle jerks are not good for new potential investors seeking to learn more about a project.

Ask yourself, which group are you in?

I'm not sure you realise it but every thread on this forum is moderated and bitcoin is doing just fine!!!
There are only so many moderators to go around so moderating your own altcoin thread is wise not stupid, only trolls complain and think its an issue.
No one is stopping anyone from making their own thread!

BCT Forum mods adhere to certain standards that self-moderated thread mods do not.

For example I happen to know that you hare gifs being posted in-thread and regard them as clutter. You also take issues with my postings that forum mods are not troubled by. I have even read in your logs discussion about whether the XSTDeletebot (or whatever its called) should be restored to auto-delete all my posts.

Saying only trolls take issue with self-modded threads only demonstrates how far off the reservation you have strayed.

You are a troll, a dirty stinking troll. You dont have any proof or knowledge of your claims. You chose this path, only you can correct it.
You actions have consequences, avoid them in your head all you want, they remain. You are a troll who has no clue what you are saying or doing.
You are being a pest. Its that simple. You are not fighting for anything worthwhile, you are just showing what a muppet you can be.

The harder you clench your fist the more control you will lose.

Remember when Cryptophile tried to censor me? Are you Crytophile?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHoZvp8bz1g

^upped by BCT user Tears on Dope if memory serves

LongAndShort

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Quote from: child_harold on October 07, 2015, 04:08:29 PM

Quote from: LongAndShort on October 07, 2015, 01:25:16 PM

Quote from: funnyman21 on October 07, 2015, 10:22:08 AM

Moderated threads often lead to a circle jerk culture where opposing viewpoints and tough questions are moderated and ignored.

Group 1: This may be a good thing for those with large bags of coins because they have an incentive to keep the circle jerk going for as long as possible while they unload their coins to unsuspecting noobs.

Group 2: Moderated circle jerks are not good for new potential investors seeking to learn more about a project.

Ask yourself, which group are you in?

I'm not sure you realise it but every thread on this forum is moderated and bitcoin is doing just fine!!!
There are only so many moderators to go around so moderating your own altcoin thread is wise not stupid, only trolls complain and think its an issue.
No one is stopping anyone from making their own thread!

BCT Forum mods adhere to certain standards that self-moderated thread mods do not.

For example I happen to know that you hare gifs being posted in-thread and regard them as clutter. You also take issues with my postings that forum mods are not troubled by. I have even read in your logs discussion about whether the XSTDeletebot (or whatever its called) should be restored to auto-delete all my posts.

Saying only trolls take issue with self-modded threads only demonstrates how far off the reservation you have strayed.

You are a troll, a dirty stinking troll. You dont have any proof or knowledge of your claims. You chose this path, only you can correct it.
You actions have consequences, avoid them in your head all you want, they remain. You are a troll who has no clue what you are saying or doing.
You are being a pest. Its that simple. You are not fighting for anything worthwhile, you are just showing what a muppet you can be.

child_harold

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Quote from: LongAndShort on October 07, 2015, 01:25:16 PM

Quote from: funnyman21 on October 07, 2015, 10:22:08 AM

Moderated threads often lead to a circle jerk culture where opposing viewpoints and tough questions are moderated and ignored.

Group 1: This may be a good thing for those with large bags of coins because they have an incentive to keep the circle jerk going for as long as possible while they unload their coins to unsuspecting noobs.

Group 2: Moderated circle jerks are not good for new potential investors seeking to learn more about a project.

Ask yourself, which group are you in?

I'm not sure you realise it but every thread on this forum is moderated and bitcoin is doing just fine!!!
There are only so many moderators to go around so moderating your own altcoin thread is wise not stupid, only trolls complain and think its an issue.
No one is stopping anyone from making their own thread!

BCT Forum mods adhere to certain standards that self-moderated thread mods do not.

For example I happen to know that you hare gifs being posted in-thread and regard them as clutter. You also take issues with many of my postings that forum mods would not be troubled by (like Zeuner, early PoW days etc). I have even read in your logs discussion about whether the XSTDeletebot (or whatever its called) should be restored to auto-delete all my posts.

Saying only trolls take issue with self-modded threads only demonstrates how far off the reservation you have strayed.

LongAndShort

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Quote from: funnyman21 on October 07, 2015, 10:22:08 AM

Moderated threads often lead to a circle jerk culture where opposing viewpoints and tough questions are moderated and ignored.

Group 1: This may be a good thing for those with large bags of coins because they have an incentive to keep the circle jerk going for as long as possible while they unload their coins to unsuspecting noobs.

Group 2: Moderated circle jerks are not good for new potential investors seeking to learn more about a project.

Ask yourself, which group are you in?

I'm not sure you realise it but every thread on this forum is moderated and bitcoin is doing just fine!!!
There are only so many moderators to go around so moderating your own altcoin thread is wise not stupid, only trolls complain and think its an issue.
No one is stopping anyone from making their own thread!

Wheatclove

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Quote from: funnyman21 on October 07, 2015, 10:22:08 AM

Moderated threads often lead to a circle jerk culture where opposing viewpoints and tough questions are moderated and ignored.

Group 1: This may be a good thing for those with large bags of coins because they have an incentive to keep the circle jerk going for as long as possible while they unload their coins to unsuspecting noobs.

Group 2: Moderated circle jerks are not good for new potential investors seeking to learn more about a project.

Ask yourself, which group are you in?

Those two groups aren't groups.

The moderation on the thread is to keep spam and trolling in check. The initial concerns raised by child_harold still exist in that thread. His spamming has been deleted and his new posts will be moderated as sanctions have been imposed on him due to the nature of his posting. The thread moderators encourange intelligent, technical discussion.

There's not much circle jerk either because the community reaction to posts simply hyping the coin is generally negative.

funnyman21

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Moderated threads often lead to a circle jerk culture where opposing viewpoints and tough questions are moderated and ignored.

Group 1: This may be a good thing for those with large bags of coins because they have an incentive to keep the circle jerk going for as long as possible while they unload their coins to unsuspecting noobs.

Group 2: Moderated circle jerks are not good for new potential investors seeking to learn more about a project.

Ask yourself, which group are you in?

Wheatclove

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Quote from: Wanderlust on October 07, 2015, 09:00:40 AM

News from Shadow chateooms

SDCDev laptop stolen and a donation addy has been posted. Hope he had full disk encryption.

Read for yourself at Shadowcash.io

(Reply u later rusty)

His laptop got stolen 3 weeks ago, in case you were wondering. And yes, his shit was fully encrypted.

Wanderlust

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News from Shadow chateooms

SDCDev laptop stolen and a donation addy has been posted. Hope he had full disk encryption.

Read for yourself at Shadowcash.io

(Reply u later rusty)

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Boycott Qatar 2022

Quote from: Wanderlust on October 06, 2015, 05:48:05 PM

Quote from: smooth on October 06, 2015, 05:45:15 PM

Moderated ANN threads are a red flag. Ultra-fast front-loaded distribution is a red flag. Missing, poorly written, or improperly cited white papers are a red flag.

Smoking guns are rare. Red flags are common. Ignore them at your peril.

Sorry Rusty .. Goin with smooth on this.

I am child_harold and my pilgrimage continues ...

First you wanted to kiss smooth and now you are "going with him", where will this pilgrimage end. Wink

Anyway good luck and watch out for that big red flag that is smooth.

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Quote from: Wheatclove on October 06, 2015, 02:32:51 PM

Quote from: Marlo Stanfield on October 06, 2015, 02:16:31 PM

If you're going to pay someone a handful of BTC to do a review of the tech, why choose a random unknown who's not part of the crypto community? There are even really respected people involved with Bitcoin that will do serious analysis but under an assumed name as not to imply that their review is an endorsement(Monero has had this done with a few different 'big names' in Bitcoin I believe). And even if you want someone to do it under their real name, I don't think it's too difficult to find someone if you're actually paying money which Shadow appears to be doing.

Kristov Atlas and Peter Todd declined. Not sure who else was contacted. Greg Maxwell might be another potential, but may be a conflict of interest due to his involvement with CoinJoin. Most of the big names in crypto are consumed by Bitcoin projects.

Alright, that's understandable.

Could also try #bitcoin-wizards and let them know that it's a new ring sig implementation in Bitcoin. I would expect that to pique some interest since Cryptonote has gotten a good amount of attention.

Not that it matters now that you already have someone, but if it doesn't work out for whatever reason or something it might be worth trying, lots of knowledgeable people there.

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@LongAndShort

Game Over*

*Game over… you bastard

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LongAndShort

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Quote from: smooth on October 06, 2015, 05:45:15 PM

Moderated ANN threads are a red flag. Ultra-fast front-loaded distribution is a red flag. Missing, poorly written, or improperly cited white papers are a red flag.

Smoking guns are rare. Red flags are common. Ignore them at your peril.

Sorry Rusty .. Goin with smooth on this.

I am child_harold and my pilgrimage continues ...

smooth

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Moderated ANN threads are a red flag. Ultra-fast front-loaded distribution is a red flag. Missing, poorly written, or improperly cited white papers are a red flag.

Smoking guns are rare. Red flags are common. Ignore them at your peril.

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ARK Team likes to ban and delete posts in reddit.

Quote from: sickandtired on October 06, 2015, 04:34:39 PM

Quote from: child_harold on October 06, 2015, 10:59:19 AM

well dasourec has already given his verdict - and it's not good.

Quote from: child_harold on October 06, 2015, 10:42:40 AM

Quote from: dasource on October 06, 2015, 09:22:30 AM

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4. The big bad "solo miner"
I see nothing to suggest that the said address is a "solo miner"... Could it have been a select group of miners? like the Chinese ASIC that everyone wispers about in BCT? Could be who knows.
Can I say with absolute certainty that this address was a "solo miner"? No ... but I can equally not say with certainty if I had not already known that the "chickenstrips" address was a pool because both addresses show the same behaviours.
The suggesting that this was a "solo miner" is just "speculation at best".

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6. Unfair launch
You can make your own decisions about if this was a unfair launch or not; I have stated the facts above without any of the nonsense or other hidden agenda.

All of this info has been taken from the original thread + inspection of the blockchain.

What can I say?

The address being debated:
http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/address/SYnHd6uBbbiXitR235TTysjqLRiRDxFbZ8

1.No tx's to connect the alleged solo mining addy to a known mining pool (good) addy
2 Actually the suspiciosu addy demonstartes diff behaviour fom a pool addy since it does not give out regular payouts and the balance only grows (thats why i got suspicious in the 1st place)
3 Could have been Chinese guys? OK

4 thanks for your honesty. as I have read twice from your post above you were not there in the beginning. Noted.

I was looking into the code with all the discussion, Max_Money or Max Cap is at 2,000,000,000 Shadow (2 billion coins)

That will be created in total ? what?

best i can remember, max_money refers to how many coins that can be spent in one transaction, and has nothing to do with the total coin supply.

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