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January 24, 2015, 11:04:04 PM
Hopefully the audit results will be posted by the auditor with no info leaked to the insiders. Is this possible??

Sounds like a good idea.


This is the most undervalued coin in the market by a mile
Don't say that! Keep things quiet in order to give people more time to buy cheap SDC before the code review comes out
We've had enough time to buy cheap SDC

I think Cryptsy is causing some problems and scaring investors away.  I had some friends I told about ShadowCash, then later they said they checked it out on Cryptsy and volume was nothing and the wallet was in maintenance so they didn't buy.  They thought the coin was broken or something.  I had to tell them no no Cryptsy just sucks, go to Bittrex instead.

It sucks pretty bad, the wallet on Cryptsy has been in maintenance at least since January 1st, and it was broken for a week or two before that also.  It only worked for a brief moment for like 1 day.  I e-mailed them a bunch of times, and contacted them in the chat and they just ignored me.  I told them if it is a sync issue to go to the console and do the "rewindchain 249000" trick.  I also asked them to just de-list the coin if they can't fix it, because they are giving Shadow a bad name.  But I just get ignored.  Maybe a dev could have better luck contacting them.

Who is reviewing the code and who will announce the results? Can you link any sources ?  1 year from now what do you guys see 1 SDC being worth??

Isidor Zeuner is reviewing the code.  I guess he is a German cryptographer and active member of the Bitcoin developer mailing list.  You can read some of his stuff here: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/

I think the results will be posted on shadowtalk.org  Some more info here: http://shadowtalk.org/topic/321/shadowcash-whitepaper-review-and-code-audit

One year from now I wouldn't be surprised to see the price over 100K satoshis.  It seems the market cap is really tiny right now, and this coin is way undervalued.  It is surprising that the devs have built so much for this project, yet not many people even know about Shadow.  If you look at a hyped coin like DRK, it has a market cap of like $9,000,000 right now.  Shadow only has a market cap of like $350,000.  I think Shadow is a much cooler project, and a much better anon coin than DRK. Shadow has way more going for it.  If we could just match the same marketcap as DRK right now, we could see a 25x increase in price of SDC, or a price of about 500K satoshis.  Its hard to say though, this market is very unpredictable, and often stupid.



Interesting. This is another reason to buy Shadowcash....Stealthcoin is not doing anything like this. Although they do have plans to open a marketplace..


One question about SDC...What exactly is stacking and what is the point?

Probably you mean staking.  Shadow is a proof of stake (POS) coin.  It initially had a Proof of Work (POW) period in the beginning then it switched to POS.  Basically POS is an alternative method of securing a blockchain rather than mining.  I am not too expert on POS, but basically it is an alternative incentive system to mining.  It has its pros and cons.  I think part of the incentive structure is in order to attack the network you would need to hold A LOT of coins, so it doesn't provide much incentive for someone to buy all those coins only to destroy their value by attacking the network.  But I think it gets even more complex than that.  I am also wondering more about how the Shadow POS system works, because every POS coin seems to have a slightly different scheme.  Also I think that the staking of Shadow allows 2% growth per year, so if you stake your coins all year, then your supply will increase by 2%
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January 24, 2015, 10:52:34 PM
This is the most undervalued coin in the market by a mile
Don't say that! Keep things quiet in order to give people more time to buy cheap SDC before the code review comes out
We've had enough time to buy cheap SDC

I think Cryptsy is causing some problems and scaring investors away.  I had some friends I told about ShadowCash, then later they said they checked it out on Cryptsy and volume was nothing and the wallet was in maintenance so they didn't buy.  They thought the coin was broken or something.  I had to tell them no no Cryptsy just sucks, go to Bittrex instead.

It sucks pretty bad, the wallet on Cryptsy has been in maintenance at least since January 1st, and it was broken for a week or two before that also.  It only worked for a brief moment for like 1 day.  I e-mailed them a bunch of times, and contacted them in the chat and they just ignored me.  I told them if it is a sync issue to go to the console and do the "rewindchain 249000" trick.  I also asked them to just de-list the coin if they can't fix it, because they are giving Shadow a bad name.  But I just get ignored.  Maybe a dev could have better luck contacting them.

Who is reviewing the code and who will announce the results? Can you link any sources ?  1 year from now what do you guys see 1 SDC being worth??

Isidor Zeuner is reviewing the code.  I guess he is a German cryptographer and active member of the Bitcoin developer mailing list.  You can read some of his stuff here: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/

I think the results will be posted on shadowtalk.org  Some more info here: http://shadowtalk.org/topic/321/shadowcash-whitepaper-review-and-code-audit

One year from now I wouldn't be surprised to see the price over 100K satoshis.  It seems the market cap is really tiny right now, and this coin is way undervalued.  It is surprising that the devs have built so much for this project, yet not many people even know about Shadow.  If you look at a hyped coin like DRK, it has a market cap of like $9,000,000 right now.  Shadow only has a market cap of like $350,000.  I think Shadow is a much cooler project, and a much better anon coin than DRK. Shadow has way more going for it.  If we could just match the same marketcap as DRK right now, we could see a 25x increase in price of SDC, or a price of about 500K satoshis.  Its hard to say though, this market is very unpredictable, and often stupid.



Interesting. This is another reason to buy Shadowcash....Stealthcoin is not doing anything like this. Although they do have plans to open a marketplace..


One question about SDC...What exactly is stacking and what is the point?
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January 24, 2015, 10:37:12 PM
Hopefully the audit results will be posted by the auditor with no info leaked to the insiders. Is this possible??
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January 24, 2015, 10:06:46 PM
This is the most undervalued coin in the market by a mile
Don't say that! Keep things quiet in order to give people more time to buy cheap SDC before the code review comes out
We've had enough time to buy cheap SDC

I think Cryptsy is causing some problems and scaring investors away.  I had some friends I told about ShadowCash, then later they said they checked it out on Cryptsy and volume was nothing and the wallet was in maintenance so they didn't buy.  They thought the coin was broken or something.  I had to tell them no no Cryptsy just sucks, go to Bittrex instead.

It sucks pretty bad, the wallet on Cryptsy has been in maintenance at least since January 1st, and it was broken for a week or two before that also.  It only worked for a brief moment for like 1 day.  I e-mailed them a bunch of times, and contacted them in the chat and they just ignored me.  I told them if it is a sync issue to go to the console and do the "rewindchain 249000" trick.  I also asked them to just de-list the coin if they can't fix it, because they are giving Shadow a bad name.  But I just get ignored.  Maybe a dev could have better luck contacting them.

Who is reviewing the code and who will announce the results? Can you link any sources ?  1 year from now what do you guys see 1 SDC being worth??

Isidor Zeuner is reviewing the code.  I guess he is a German cryptographer and active member of the Bitcoin developer mailing list.  You can read some of his stuff here: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/

I think the results will be posted on shadowtalk.org  Some more info here: http://shadowtalk.org/topic/321/shadowcash-whitepaper-review-and-code-audit

One year from now I wouldn't be surprised to see the price over 100K satoshis.  It seems the market cap is really tiny right now, and this coin is way undervalued.  It is surprising that the devs have built so much for this project, yet not many people even know about Shadow.  If you look at a hyped coin like DRK, it has a market cap of like $9,000,000 right now.  Shadow only has a market cap of like $350,000.  I think Shadow is a much cooler project, and a much better anon coin than DRK. Shadow has way more going for it.  If we could just match the same marketcap as DRK right now, we could see a 25x increase in price of SDC, or a price of about 500K satoshis.  Its hard to say though, this market is very unpredictable, and often stupid.

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January 24, 2015, 09:55:06 PM
This is the most undervalued coin in the market by a mile
Don't say that! Keep things quiet in order to give people more time to buy cheap SDC before the code review comes out
We've had enough time to buy cheap SDC

I think Cryptsy is causing some problems and scaring investors away.  I had some friends I told about ShadowCash, then later they said they checked it out on Cryptsy and volume was nothing and the wallet was in maintenance so they didn't buy.  They thought the coin was broken or something.  I had to tell them no no Cryptsy just sucks, go to Bittrex instead.

It sucks pretty bad, the wallet on Cryptsy has been in maintenance at least since January 1st, and it was broken for a week or two before that also.  It only worked for a brief moment for like 1 day.  I e-mailed them a bunch of times, and contacted them in the chat and they just ignored me.  I told them if it is a sync issue to go to the console and do the "rewindchain 249000" trick.  I also asked them to just de-list the coin if they can't fix it, because they are giving Shadow a bad name.  But I just get ignored.  Maybe a dev could have better luck contacting them.

Who is reviewing the code and who will announce the results? Can you link any sources ?  1 year from now what do you guys see 1 SDC being worth??
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January 24, 2015, 09:42:24 PM
This is the most undervalued coin in the market by a mile
Don't say that! Keep things quiet in order to give people more time to buy cheap SDC before the code review comes out
We've had enough time to buy cheap SDC

I think Cryptsy is causing some problems and scaring investors away.  I had some friends I told about ShadowCash, then later they said they checked it out on Cryptsy and volume was nothing and the wallet was in maintenance so they didn't buy.  They thought the coin was broken or something.  I had to tell them no no Cryptsy just sucks, go to Bittrex instead.

It sucks pretty bad, the wallet on Cryptsy has been in maintenance at least since January 1st, and it was broken for a week or two before that also.  It only worked for a brief moment for like 1 day.  I e-mailed them a bunch of times, and contacted them in the chat and they just ignored me.  I told them if it is a sync issue to go to the console and do the "rewindchain 249000" trick.  I also asked them to just de-list the coin if they can't fix it, because they are giving Shadow a bad name.  But I just get ignored.  Maybe a dev could have better luck contacting them.


I JUST had this problem 30mins ago...I switched to Bittrex....very impressed with this coin and so sad I didn't hop on the bandwagon earlier ...   1 year from now what do you guys see 1 SDC being worth??
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January 24, 2015, 08:27:46 PM
This is the most undervalued coin in the market by a mile
Don't say that! Keep things quiet in order to give people more time to buy cheap SDC before the code review comes out
We've had enough time to buy cheap SDC

I think Cryptsy is causing some problems and scaring investors away.  I had some friends I told about ShadowCash, then later they said they checked it out on Cryptsy and volume was nothing and the wallet was in maintenance so they didn't buy.  They thought the coin was broken or something.  I had to tell them no no Cryptsy just sucks, go to Bittrex instead.

It sucks pretty bad, the wallet on Cryptsy has been in maintenance at least since January 1st, and it was broken for a week or two before that also.  It only worked for a brief moment for like 1 day.  I e-mailed them a bunch of times, and contacted them in the chat and they just ignored me.  I told them if it is a sync issue to go to the console and do the "rewindchain 249000" trick.  I also asked them to just de-list the coin if they can't fix it, because they are giving Shadow a bad name.  But I just get ignored.  Maybe a dev could have better luck contacting them.
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January 24, 2015, 02:11:21 PM
This is the most undervalued coin in the market by a mile

Don't say that! Keep things quiet in order to give people more time to buy cheap SDC before the code review comes out

We've had enough time to buy cheap SDC
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January 24, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
This is the most undervalued coin in the market by a mile

Don't say that! Keep things quiet in order to give people more time to buy cheap SDC before the code review comes out

According to the roadmap there may be a new mobile wallet update coming soon too!
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January 24, 2015, 02:07:18 PM
This is the most undervalued coin in the market by a mile
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January 24, 2015, 09:37:03 AM
Hello guys !

Does someone know here how to get the GUI on linux ?

I finished compiling my executable (first time yeah !), but I only can use my wallets with commands.

Thanks  Smiley

Download QtCreator and you can compile with the shadow.pro file from the main git directory... This will compile the Gui

Oh okay, thanks  Wink I'll try this
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January 24, 2015, 08:06:08 AM
Hello guys !

Does someone know here how to get the GUI on linux ?

I finished compiling my executable (first time yeah !), but I only can use my wallets with commands.

Thanks  Smiley

Download QtCreator and you can compile with the shadow.pro file from the main git directory... This will compile the Gui
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January 24, 2015, 07:51:37 AM
Hello guys !

Does someone know here how to get the GUI on linux ?

I finished compiling my executable (first time yeah !), but I only can use my wallets with commands.

Thanks  Smiley
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January 24, 2015, 07:21:40 AM
Good video I liked it.

Maybe the dubstep is a little much though.

Thanks fearcoka, I made the video a couple weeks ago.. we can always swap out the music later if its too grimey Cheesy still need to upload it to the main youtube channel for shadow..

Jimmies and Crz pimped out the shadowsend slideshow too: http://www.slideshare.net/shadowcash/presentation3-43827434

+1 Cool, website is also very cool, only little thing ... Would be nice to see the ShadowProject, Bluepill and Roadmap to flyby fully but very nice imo
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January 24, 2015, 12:01:03 AM
Interested in this project. How does the proof of stake work? Are people selected deterministically but unpredictably like in NXT or does it use something more like coindays like peercoin or something else? Was the mining process open and transparent? Was there an ipo or was it all mined? Was there any premine? Do messages go on the blockchain? If so are they there for ever or have the devs figured out some sort of method of pruning messages while keeping transactions? More questions to come but this should do for starters. I've been waiting to see POS cryptonote since im a big fan of both Smiley.

Hey Anon136!     You still have my escrow for EXO, (is it ever going to happen!? ha!)

I was here at or very near ground floor.  I mined this coin 2/3rd of its launch.   It had no premine and no IPO,  It was just a good 'old' fashioned short-term POW phase.   During PoW it was getting a lot of attention, had a price swell, then lull and shortly after the PoW the 'buzz' died down on the streets and the devs have been grinding along since and have created what I think is the most underrated project in crypto by a long shot.

There have been a lot of comparison with Cryptonote but I think they have been both flattering and also have missed the pile of tech brings to bear ontop of also using Ring signatures.   This coin is convertible on the fly, between block-chain traceable and Anon (the best anon solution?) and back again bringing the strengths of each to bear.

Someone who is better with the technicals will jump in quick I hope!
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January 23, 2015, 11:08:12 PM
Interested in this project. How does the proof of stake work? Are people selected deterministically but unpredictably like in NXT or does it use something more like coindays like peercoin or something else? Was the mining process open and transparent? Was there an ipo or was it all mined? Was there any premine? Do messages go on the blockchain? If so are they there for ever or have the devs figured out some sort of method of pruning messages while keeping transactions? More questions to come but this should do for starters. I've been waiting to see POS cryptonote since im a big fan of both Smiley.
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January 23, 2015, 08:52:53 PM
Thank you, that clarifies it then.  People should then know that if they want to help the network the most, don't just leave your coins in Shadow.  Keep changing into Shadow and back to SDC and back to Shadow many times to create more anonymous outputs.

No problem, anytime.
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January 23, 2015, 08:49:48 PM

I have question about slide #6, from transcript:
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The Shadow tokens (SDT) are sent to dual-key stealth addresses which removes the link between the parties. it is not possible to determine which tokens have been spent, so all tokens remain in the Hodrchain as spendable outputs available as members 0! ring signatures for other token spends.

Also slide 10:  
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An ever increasing pool of outputs (tokens) are available in the ring signature The tokens remain in the system increasing the outputs for available ring signatures but cannot be used to create any new SDC without a traceable ring. Between 3-200 tokens of each value (ormsa member of a ring signature, which prevents anyone from knowing which token was spent or who signed the transaction.

Doesn't this mean that it would be helpful for the network if we transfer from SDC to Shadow and back to SDC many times?  The more times we go back and forth, then the more available outputs, which helps the anonymity of the network?  I believe many people tried to help the network by transferring their SDC to Shadow and leaving it in Shadow, but would it be more helpful if they transfer back and forth many times?  Also would a bot be helpful for increasing the anonymous outputs?

From my understanding of the system it would be more beneficial to create more outputs then put it back into SDC versus holding Shadow.

A) Shadow doesn't stake so the more people holding onto shadow the less people that are staking

B) It creates a larger pool of tokens for future shadowsends


Thank you, that clarifies it then.  People should then know that if they want to help the network the most, don't just leave your coins in Shadow.  Keep changing into Shadow and back to SDC and back to Shadow many times to create more anonymous outputs.
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January 23, 2015, 08:38:25 PM

I have question about slide #6, from transcript:
Quote
The Shadow tokens (SDT) are sent to dual-key stealth addresses which removes the link between the parties. it is not possible to determine which tokens have been spent, so all tokens remain in the Hodrchain as spendable outputs available as members 0! ring signatures for other token spends.

Also slide 10:  
Quote
An ever increasing pool of outputs (tokens) are available in the ring signature The tokens remain in the system increasing the outputs for available ring signatures but cannot be used to create any new SDC without a traceable ring. Between 3-200 tokens of each value (ormsa member of a ring signature, which prevents anyone from knowing which token was spent or who signed the transaction.

Doesn't this mean that it would be helpful for the network if we transfer from SDC to Shadow and back to SDC many times?  The more times we go back and forth, then the more available outputs, which helps the anonymity of the network?  I believe many people tried to help the network by transferring their SDC to Shadow and leaving it in Shadow, but would it be more helpful if they transfer back and forth many times?  Also would a bot be helpful for increasing the anonymous outputs?

From my understanding of the system it would be more beneficial to create more outputs then put it back into SDC versus holding Shadow.

A) Shadow doesn't stake so the more people holding onto shadow the less people that are staking

B) It creates a larger pool of tokens for future shadowsends
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January 23, 2015, 08:31:30 PM
Good video I liked it.

Maybe the dubstep is a little much though.

Thanks fearcoka, I made the video a couple weeks ago.. we can always swap out the music later if its too grimey Cheesy still need to upload it to the main youtube channel for shadow..

Jimmies and Crz pimped out the shadowsend slideshow too: http://www.slideshare.net/shadowcash/presentation3-43827434

I have question about slide #6, from transcript:
Quote
The Shadow tokens (SDT) are sent to dual-key stealth addresses which removes the link between the parties. it is not possible to determine which tokens have been spent, so all tokens remain in the Hodrchain as spendable outputs available as members 0! ring signatures for other token spends.

Also slide 10:  
Quote
An ever increasing pool of outputs (tokens) are available in the ring signature The tokens remain in the system increasing the outputs for available ring signatures but cannot be used to create any new SDC without a traceable ring. Between 3-200 tokens of each value (ormsa member of a ring signature, which prevents anyone from knowing which token was spent or who signed the transaction.

Doesn't this mean that it would be helpful for the network if we transfer from SDC to Shadow and back to SDC many times?  The more times we go back and forth, then the more available outputs, which helps the anonymity of the network?  I believe many people tried to help the network by transferring their SDC to Shadow and leaving it in Shadow, but would it be more helpful if they transfer back and forth many times?  Also would a bot be helpful for increasing the anonymous outputs?
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