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Quote from: dazbarlby on January 19, 2015, 11:35:31 AM

Who is Isidor Zeuner?

Isidor Zeuner is a German cryptographer and also a prominent member of the bitcoin developer mailing list. There are not that many people active on the developer mailing list, but he is one of them. You can read some of his stuff here: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/

We have raised over 5 btc for him to help audit ShadowCash. Info here: http://shadowtalk.org/topic/321/shadowcash-whitepaper-review-and-code-audit

Also as a note, if the audit turns up any flaws or problems with the Shadow system, then its a good thing, and the developers can work to plug holes, and improve the system. Its probably likely that there can be some improvements, but this is hardly a "fail". When Kristov Atlas audited the DRK codebase, he found some flaws in their coinjoin scheme, which they improved upon. This is all part of becoming a hardened coin.

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Quote from: bangomatic on January 19, 2015, 08:09:45 PM

Quote from: child_harold on January 19, 2015, 08:03:35 PM

^Total and utter FUD by a hilarious member of this gathering. Confirmed in IRC.

> http://youtu.be/EwfI677mRXo

HOLD TIGHT!

Doesnt seem very hilarious to me.

Sorry. Sarcasm does not translate well to text. I'm pissed and regard his comments as totally un-funny and completely IRRESPONSIBLE. He is equally unapologetic, which is all the more galling Angry

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Quote from: Pline on January 19, 2015, 08:05:54 PM

Quote from: Wheatclove on January 19, 2015, 07:53:11 PM

Quote from: Pline on January 19, 2015, 07:32:13 PM

Quote from: bangomatic on January 19, 2015, 07:21:40 PM

Quote from: child_harold on January 19, 2015, 11:10:30 AM

Quote from: Wheatclove on January 19, 2015, 11:02:55 AM

Insider info: audit fail.

bullshit.

Is this confirmed?

Nah its probably just some FUD from someone who dumped all their SDC by accident, and now they want to buy back cheaper. If it were real, they would be able to provide details.

on the contrary: if they were attempting to fud, they would provide many details in order to convince others that they were real.

a simple warning on the other hand, would require no details as the audit public release will cover all the details anyway.

You are the FUDster. FUD stands for Fear Uncertainy and Doubt. A FUDster does not provide details, because details lead to certainty. You are all about FUDDing, and spreading Uncertainty, not certainty. Period.

I agree.

It is quite obvious that Wheatclove's ill-considered remark has wasted a lot of people's time and entertained nobody except himself.
Big crap-sticks for this one.

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Quote from: child_harold on January 19, 2015, 08:03:35 PM

^Total and utter FUD by a hilarious member of this gathering. Confirmed in IRC.

> http://youtu.be/EwfI677mRXo

HOLD TIGHT!

Doesnt seem very hilarious to me.

Pline

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Quote from: Wheatclove on January 19, 2015, 07:53:11 PM

Quote from: Pline on January 19, 2015, 07:32:13 PM

Quote from: bangomatic on January 19, 2015, 07:21:40 PM

Quote from: child_harold on January 19, 2015, 11:10:30 AM

Quote from: Wheatclove on January 19, 2015, 11:02:55 AM

Insider info: audit fail.

bullshit.

Is this confirmed?

Nah its probably just some FUD from someone who dumped all their SDC by accident, and now they want to buy back cheaper. If it were real, they would be able to provide details.

on the contrary: if they were attempting to fud, they would provide many details in order to convince others that they were real.

a simple warning on the other hand, would require no details as the audit public release will cover all the details anyway.

You are the FUDster. FUD stands for Fear Uncertainy and Doubt. A FUDster does not provide details, because details lead to certainty. You are all about FUDDing, and spreading Uncertainty, not certainty. Period.

child_harold

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^Total and utter FUD by a hilarious member of this gathering. Confirmed in IRC.

> http://youtu.be/EwfI677mRXo

HOLD TIGHT!

Wheatclove

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Quote from: Pline on January 19, 2015, 07:32:13 PM

Quote from: bangomatic on January 19, 2015, 07:21:40 PM

Quote from: child_harold on January 19, 2015, 11:10:30 AM

Quote from: Wheatclove on January 19, 2015, 11:02:55 AM

Insider info: audit fail.

bullshit.

Is this confirmed?

Nah its probably just some FUD from someone who dumped all their SDC by accident, and now they want to buy back cheaper. If it were real, they would be able to provide details.

on the contrary: if they were attempting to fud, they would provide many details in order to convince others that they were real.

a simple warning on the other hand, would require no details as the audit public release will cover all the details anyway.

Pline

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Quote from: bangomatic on January 19, 2015, 07:21:40 PM

Quote from: child_harold on January 19, 2015, 11:10:30 AM

Quote from: Wheatclove on January 19, 2015, 11:02:55 AM

Insider info: audit fail.

bullshit.

Is this confirmed?

Nah its probably just some FUD from someone who dumped all their SDC by accident, and now they want to buy back cheaper. If it were real, they would be able to provide details.

bangomatic

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Quote from: child_harold on January 19, 2015, 11:10:30 AM

Quote from: Wheatclove on January 19, 2015, 11:02:55 AM

Insider info: audit fail.

bullshit.

Is this confirmed?

Pline

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Guys, if anyone has a Cryptsy account, it might help to e-mail them with a support ticket and ask them to fix ShadowCash wallet. It has been broken for about a month.

Ask for Mullick, he is the one to fix wallets. Tell them if they have syncing issues, to go to debug window and console in wallet, then type "rewindchain 249000", then press enter and wait.

Or if you prefer just tell them to delist our coin. They are hurting Shadow by giving the appearance that the coin is broken and that is why its been in maintenance for a month, when really its their own incompetence. I have even talked to people in the chat box, and they try to tell me its not Cryptsy's fault, and ShadowCash must be a broken coin and they need the dev to fix it, which is complete bull.

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Quote from: child_harold on January 19, 2015, 02:57:12 PM

Quote from: illodin on January 19, 2015, 02:44:41 PM

Quote from: Pline on January 18, 2015, 10:41:12 PM

I really agree, I don't feel too confident in coinjoin schemes, or master nodes. Zero knowledge is where its at. The video left a bad taste in my mouth. It gave the opinion of someone simply trying to sell their coin. He wouldn't even acknowledge the value of zero knowledge solutions. Instead it was his job to criticize any competition as best he can, and tell you don't look there, buy DRK instead.

When/if a usable zk solution is found some day and implemented, we can assess its value.

It's been found and implemented and you're looking at it. It's usable and easy-to-use. Ready for anon B2B. No need to take my word for it: the Zeuner Report will be in soon…

It's certainly usable and effective ZK. It's easy to use, for us. Where improvement is needed is to bring it down to grandma-level usability. But that's a wallet issue, not a code issue. Being BTC isn't at grandma-level usability either there's nothing to complain about; the hundreds of people who code BTC wallets haven't accomplished it yet either.

My benchmark: when a guy can bump phones with the dumbest stripper in the strip club, and she receives an anonymous transaction that is converted to fiat on a debit card that she can withdraw from the ATM over by the men's room at the end of her shift. Then we will have arrived!

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Quote from: illodin on January 19, 2015, 02:44:41 PM

Quote from: Pline on January 18, 2015, 10:41:12 PM

I really agree, I don't feel too confident in coinjoin schemes, or master nodes. Zero knowledge is where its at. The video left a bad taste in my mouth. It gave the opinion of someone simply trying to sell their coin. He wouldn't even acknowledge the value of zero knowledge solutions. Instead it was his job to criticize any competition as best he can, and tell you don't look there, buy DRK instead.

When/if a usable zk solution is found some day and implemented, we can assess its value.

It's been found and implemented and you're looking at it. It's usable and easy-to-use. Ready for anon B2B. No need to take my word for it: the Zeuner Report will be in soon…

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Quote from: Pline on January 18, 2015, 10:41:12 PM

I really agree, I don't feel too confident in coinjoin schemes, or master nodes. Zero knowledge is where its at. The video left a bad taste in my mouth. It gave the opinion of someone simply trying to sell their coin. He wouldn't even acknowledge the value of zero knowledge solutions. Instead it was his job to criticize any competition as best he can, and tell you don't look there, buy DRK instead.

When/if a usable zk solution is found some day and implemented, we can assess its value.

Automatic Monkey

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http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/without-drugs-whats-the-point-of-bitcoin/384622/

""Bitcoin is insanely traceable," Nicholas Weaver, a researcher at UC Berkeley's International Computer Science Institute told the Verge."

Yes. Yes it is.

But SHADOW is not!

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Quote from: Automatic Monkey on January 19, 2015, 01:29:24 PM

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Quote from: Wheatclove on January 19, 2015, 11:02:55 AM

Insider info: audit fail.

I think someone is mad because he lost wall yesterday after

01/18/2015 17:40:38   01/18/2015 17:40:37   Buy   0.00020358   115900.75398024   115900.75398024   0.00020084   23.33635123

and now he try to push the price down with
0.0199   0.0199   99.54593084 0.00020041
0.0338   0.0139   69.34910845 0.00020040
0.0537   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020039
0.0735   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020038
0.0934   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020037
0.1132   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020036
0.1330   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020035
0.1529   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020034
0.1727   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020033

etc because he want to hide my 4 BTC buy at 18k (& other buy order) but atm no one sell. btw I have to thank you if you succed to fud because I'll pick up more at low price.

Easy fix, just fill his orders. Then let him fill yours at 18K.

Hahah yes, Bleed them out Wink

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Quote from: Wheatclove on January 19, 2015, 11:02:55 AM

Insider info: audit fail.

I think someone is mad because he lost wall yesterday after

01/18/2015 17:40:38   01/18/2015 17:40:37   Buy   0.00020358   115900.75398024   115900.75398024   0.00020084   23.33635123

and now he try to push the price down with
0.0199   0.0199   99.54593084 0.00020041
0.0338   0.0139   69.34910845 0.00020040
0.0537   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020039
0.0735   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020038
0.0934   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020037
0.1132   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020036
0.1330   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020035
0.1529   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020034
0.1727   0.0198   99.00000000 0.00020033

etc because he want to hide my 4 BTC buy at 18k (& other buy order) but atm no one sell. btw I have to thank you if you succed to fud because I'll pick up more at low price.

Easy fix, just fill his orders. Then let him fill yours at 18K.

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Quote from: svojoe on January 19, 2015, 11:59:15 AM

Quote from: Pline on January 19, 2015, 11:19:27 AM

Quote from: Wheatclove on January 19, 2015, 11:02:55 AM

Insider info: audit fail.

Care to elaborate? What failed? If an audit was done, and found vulnerabilities or problems, then that is actually a success, and a step towards progress.

A more likely event for failure in my opinion would be if Isidor Zeuner is too busy or incapable or doing an audit.

I agree with this, I despise senseless trolling.

Yes. What an idiot. If the auditor was handing out "insider info" he wouldn't be doing an audit.

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the chances of him finishing the audit already are slim..the 5 btc for the guy was just received two days ago..i imagine it will take a bit longer to audit the code

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Quote from: Pline on January 19, 2015, 11:19:27 AM

Quote from: Wheatclove on January 19, 2015, 11:02:55 AM

Insider info: audit fail.

Care to elaborate? What failed? If an audit was done, and found vulnerabilities or problems, then that is actually a success, and a step towards progress.

A more likely event for failure in my opinion would be if Isidor Zeuner is too busy or incapable or doing an audit.

I agree with this, I despise senseless trolling.

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Who is Isidor Zeuner?

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