Topic: Self Moderated Thread for New Books - page 4. (Read 802 times)

Also, I don't like self moderated threads when it comes to projects. However, I have noticed that more and more attacks by trolls, which just for fun, just to irritate people and destroy normal discussion. Hopefully the owner intent was to get rid of the trolls and the OP will get back the locked account and money.

Edit - I must admit I'm surprised. I wrote this post in the thread 4444sport but don't know why it was deleted

It was not 'positively considered'. The customer in question has stated in their new thread that he never received that withdrawal, and every time he mentions it they just delete his comments.

There is still no positive confirmation of any withdrawal whatsoever from 4444sport. Just complaints and lots of comments being deleted. Please, wake up.

I almost never post in those self-modded threads. It doesn't make sense. The OP will just remove the posts which he don't like and push his own propaganda. If there is a scam going on however, you can always create a flag, a scam accusation thread or/and give a negative feedback to the account in question.

Sometimes even these won't stop the scammers sadly. Look how 1xbit operates. People threw them all the shit and yet they give zero fucks.

They are deleting posts on their thread even though users are just asking on what is happening on those cases, most particularly, to that not processed withdrawal for more than a week now.
Isn't it suspicious that they created a self-moderated thread?

It's true that 4444sport is a new bookmaker, but from what I've seen, there were only two complaints and one of them has already been positively considered. I find it too radical to call someone a scammer because too long has been researching the case.

The mod has a lot of messages and tasks that will definitely take some time to respond to your reports. So I hope you are patient and don't send too many messages to the Mod. It will just be considered spam and ignored. If they have time, they will definitely follow up on your case as it should, according to valid data. but so far I think since this is getting too long and time consuming, maybe you should just take suggestions first. No one really guarantees 100% of your money back.

I reported that PM to the mods.
They did nothing.

yep, it was a stupid thing to do, they are lucky that no one reported what they did or if someone did report their unsolicited PMs, the mods let it pass.

I'd understand if it was due to spam, troll, etc... but seeing that they deleted any post that has something against them only shows that they don't want people to see the issue people experience on their website. I hope they realize that the issues that they try to hide can be used to build their reputation if they responded/resolve it properly.

I find it strange that they  sent me a PM on November 19th asking to check out their platform and offering me 5€, without me even once posting in their thread.
My first thought was that they are the same guy/group that was behind "Adkinsbet".

First they had a normal thread, then after a lot of complaints made one that was self moderated.
+ most of the adkinsbet shills are now 1xbet shills and are also defending 4444sport.

It's highly unlikely that I will see any money. Like I said before, there is not a single confirmed withdrawal from 4444 at all. They have spent a week to 'verify' the bets and have not even thought to send me an email about it. The other guy complaining in their old thread was told his bets were voided and they would send back his initial deposit, and so far 4 days later he has not received a thing.

You would think after all this drama they would see to these issues as a matter of priority. The reason they don't is because they are just a scam site, deleting any negativity from their current thread to give the image of being a fair book, so they can grab any funds that are deposited by the unsuspecting.

Their Costa Rica license is just words typed on the page. Costa Rican licenses are not even a thing as far as I can tell. There is no link to their license when you click, as there are with most other licenses.

Even if I were to receive some money back, it would only be my deposit, as they will come up with some strange excuse to void all of my bets. It will also take another week or 2 to sort any issue out, maybe longer, because they either need to grab a few more $ and run, or at best ponzi some $ to me for my deposit back so that they hope the drama will die down and they can attempt to steal from more people.

Any player even slightly supporting them at this point is a guaranteed shill, and it's no surprise that most of those that do have negative trust ratings.

It takes some time to judge a casino or bookmaker. In this case it is a very new bookmaker, so we still don't know what quality their services are.
The bookmaker didn't say the bets were canceled, just that they are still checking the bets. Let's give him some time to sort things out and it might be okay.

Therefore, gambling at a casino with a reputation above 4 stars will be very useful in the future if at any time what the OP is experiencing is easier to deal with. We learn that the assessment of the casino is truly one of the benchmarks that we must follow, at least not to make the money we bet lose without accountability from the casino.

Just because thread is self moderated does not mean the casino or bookmaker is a cheat. Bitcasino.io it also has a self moderated thread and is an honest gambling platform.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcasino-elevate-your-gameplay-1-vip-crypto-casino-4541166

The possibility of creating moderated threads is to keep the conversation in order. Let's wait for a reply from 4444sport and hope it's just a misunderstanding and money will be refunded.

Well right, --that is the reason why I did not gamble on a new gambling casino, aside from that, they are many buggies too that make you annoyed upon playing on their casino. I don't like to comment in ANN thread that has moderated because it means they are not transparent to the community. A company like that should not gain any on this community because they are acting very weird and smell like they had something to hide. Suspicious gambling casinos should not be used, let them operate without players.

If the bookmaker has doubts about any bets, he has the right to check them. A week of time is not yet a very long period of waiting for an answer. I understand your impatience, but spamming his thread is not the best behavior.
As for slef-moderated thread, this is not practiced, but I don't consider it a bad thing.

24 posts now including mine lmao, my post is suggesting them to act professionally in solving player's issue. I did not attack them, but seems 4444sports is managed by a sensitive kid who are not welcome to suggestion/opinion. How can they expect to gain interest from this community if they act like that?

In the archived thread, there is also someone who is waiting for his withdrawal like brassnuts but I cant see a confirmation about the withdrawal from the bookie or the player (younger41).

Most self moderated threads specially here in Gambling section is very suspicious. If you are an owner of staff of a casino/other related business, you should not create a self moderated thread so the transparency is maximized. Most of those that has self moderated threads are scams and are hiding something from the community.

The site that you mentioned is new right? It is one of the reason why I do play and jump from one casino to another. I prefer playing on those that has really good reputation. Sorry for your lost. gl.

Sorry to hear about your bad experience in the new site, yes it is really unfortunate to see the fact how they serve you as a player.
What they did is not professional at all, but I hope you'll get your money as soon as possible.
From now on, it is a warning to all members in this forum or to anyone who read this thread to avoid depositing in the site.
At least until they can prove that they are legit site and change their bad behavior to their own player.

14 comments deleted from 6 users as of this posting hehe. Their actions looked unprofessional but there's nothing you could do about it since it's also their right to have a moderated topic. You are also free to talk about them in a separate thread like you are doing now. Have you created a flag?

Scam is not moderated on bitcointalk the forum is a decentralized forum and the players are left with the sole responsibility of protecting themselves from scams.
Once you don't violate the rules of the forum the sites are free to create a thread and self-mod it.