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Topic: SFARDS: Results of “Speaking IMHO”- The Best Miner is…Contest [Update 26/5/2015] (Read 9702 times)

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Thank you for this awesome promotions!

Waiting for the new miners to be announced now...
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Well week's gone now...

well, I feel like my post might be a serious contender for "The most market appealing design award: 100 LTC", if not quite the "Most Creative".

Hopefully SFARDS was serious about the rewards Smiley I didn't post a payment address at the time because it seems unnecessary, and would prefer to be contacted by PM to share that sort of info.

The 'ideal' unit would be something small enough for home use, but large enough that it could be used in larger farms profitably. This is best seen as:


1) 1500-5000GH/unit
2) $400-1500/unit
3) external (user-provided) power supply, hopefully drawing less than 250W/PCIe connector
4) rack-mount dimensions (2U-4U) and stackable. Half-depth would be a smart way to keep the unit small but remain rackmountable.
5) fans that are less than 70dB. That should make it reasonable for home use (at least in a spare bedroom or basement). This means ideally 120mm or 140mm fans only.

6) string design for chips - this is >10% more efficienct
7) design the webUI similarly to what spondoolies-tech built (very detailed settings, stats, logging, scheduling, etc)
Cool design the ability to modify BOTH the voltage AND frequency, as well as the fan settings if possible. this allows wider range of users to run it at peak or in quieter modes.

9) basic outer case. put the power and ethernet connections on the same side, use a basic sheet metal enclosure. 2-4 leds is sufficienct, anything more becomes 'too blinky'. something like the SP3x design is ideal.
10) consider a small screen that can readout hashrate and/or IP address.


MY 'DO-NOT' LIST:
1) fans <80mm are loud
2) miners <1500GH mean buyers end up with a huge stack of units. dont build anything with <$400 MSRP
3) miners >40 pounds (~16kg) can be a bit heavy to move around
4) miners that act as nightlights. all i want is a singlular LED that is lit solid in normal operation and isnt blinding.


-Klondike
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How is this going? Eager for the winners to be announced!
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A bit costly but can you put one of these in your miners?

https://chainbot.com/chainbot

A lot of what people want is in there.
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Dear all,

Thank you for all participation! Our contest is over now. We will calculate all results and publish within a week. Thanks again! Wink

Thanks for putting this on. Was fun to read the way out and not so way out ideas.
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Dear all,

Thank you for all participation! Our contest is over now. We will calculate all results and publish within a week. Thanks again! Wink

dont forget to count "critics award" per day from comments ....  Wink

goodluck
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Great!! Thanks for this cool feedback & competition combo Smiley
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Dear all,

Thank you for all participation! Our contest is over now. We will calculate all results and publish within a week. Thanks again! Wink
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I hope it's not too late yet, ... my ideal miner would be of course the that has the power source built in, that has a display with % of accepted shares, that comes with a power cord, usb to upgrade the firmware in the easy GUI menu or OTA upgrade, ethernet port with PoE. Of course it will come with the new sfards chips in a small factory so could be a size of a 20x20x5cm and can have some broadwell processor in it. So the miner will be a router, which can be powered with PoE, when is not mining. If the user would want to mine, he will just plug in the power cord beside ethernet. Of course the PoE can provide a power up to 25W so it is good enough to be a media player also, this would require some emmc flash, lets say 8gb and ddr ram, lets say 1gb. on the device there will be installed android OS, which user can use for the home media player, with PoE powering only, or as a miner with power cord connected. of course the media player type of miner would require HDMI output. because the broadcomm processors have also bluetooth and wifi connections available, the device can also be a home audio bridge. for this option we would need AV out connected to amplifier or sound system, device can without any visual output, enable bluetooth or wifi signal, on which is then connected iOS or Android device. the iOS or Android device can then play music through wireless network to the "miner" which then ouputs the music to sound system.

I have already posted the idea on the FB Wink

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Fish tank heater?  Would need wifi, but would be a cool little device nonetheless.



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I would love this idea.  I have a small tank.  If my fish would swim around a miner that would be amazing.  Instead of star trek characters i would have to start naming them after bitcoin items Smiley

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Don't overclock too much or you cook the fish  Grin

Yes that would kill any fish in a tank. But it could be a good idea if you need hot water, also if you put it in a river you can have a very cheap and extremely effective cooling system  Smiley

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What about a stick miner that is pre-configurable and self running?  Meaning, a stickminer that you can just plug into a PC and it will mine using built in software to an address that you already programmed into it.  All it needs is a computer with an internet connection.  Perfect for people who want to hide them in their work computers, or perhaps behind a library computer without having to install any software.

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...Or you can just make a steampunk-looking wood and brass miner  Wink



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For me, I see three possible markets. The average users, like most of us. Professionals or a farm for cloud mining

For the average user of an ASIC, it should be compact, do not exceed a certain level of db. An all in one would be best. Raspberry Pi integrated with all necessary connectors accessible on the side of the case, the ASIC would be connected to the near Pi with an already configured SD card, just enough to put a power outlet on the housing and connected to the start miner. Wireless Doggle on Pi would not have to use RJ45 cable. In terms of cooling I think to the fans would be nice but do not go too high in the db, left the choice to the user with an alternative watercooling can prove to be a good idea. This ASIC is designed for apartments or persons not having a special room to put his equipment for example.
Another example I have in mind for a while would be to copy the computer industry and allow up his miner in the manner of a PC, proposed while mounted cases with an opportunity to upgrade. And detached parts: the boxes, the mother of a map while RaspberryPi kind in larger, with CPU, RAM, PCI or PCI Express slots, USB ports, a Hdmi port, the internal memory with a special OS mining. The cooling would with fans in the case. So we would insert PCI or PCI Express cards on which are 28 nm chips. So you could put multiple cards per box, possibility to add risers over USB, or buy evening access to the radiator type PCI card, radiator or in the case of water cooling equipment to cool the system. This system would allow for an ASIC that can be easily updated, if a problem arises with a card ASIC is therefore not entirely dead durability over time. Personalization gives more and can afford to undermine the melt into the background, with designs cases.

After we could sell accessories that may have utility other than the principal activity of the ASIC or enabling to save energy, for example heat storage in a box and release it in a terrarium. My example is not very useful ... I grant you Imagined a small solar panel module or mini wind that could connect to undermine it would save energy and we could even store energy too. Let the community developed the kind of media center software installable on the OS of the ASIC to find a second use. From there one can find a lot of ideas but I think I do not have in enormously Cheesy

For professionals all in one system to be put into pre server rack level connectivity to Ethernet, power and USB port. added LEDs to see if the ASIC is running if he has a problem and an LED networks. In the machine, a card with integrated memory which is the OS, processors, RAM etc. mini-cards with the chips. Simple and effective for professionals with always a way to upgrade its equipment and to the duration in time with a sale of used spare parts.

Open a farm might be a good idea too, would require a well-ventilated area where the sun but can not directly enter the rooms where are exposed ASIC for not directly heat the room. Power level could see a solar panel system (you start with 5 panels for example. For the beginning a little solar energy the rest taken to the Central and then adds some panels), and one can even imagine wind turbines in a datacenter or in the mountains where the wind blows in continuous. and fresh mountain air will not be bad for cooling. Having ASIC boxes that stack to save space can not be a bad idea as the idea of making ASIC that upgrad perhaps profitable again, indeed farms often have equipment failures then would limit breakage.

& For all ASIC, various setting modes are available on the case (see below photo). or to the operating system must be easy to use software. Pre-installed and ready for use when plugged. A web interface seems to me the simplest with ssh access for the more experienced. Some ideas for the OS, idea of an API it gives the value of the currency undermined with graph. Simple pool setting with some easily configurable options: Distribution of hashrate several pools. Possible use of 10% or 50% of the miner. Changing the supply mode for ASIC: power saving, low, normal, boost and max power. A smart OS that understands what it mine and switch on the most cost pool added in the options. A diagnostic system of complete ASIC: heat level, state of PCI cards or chips, level of energy consumption ...

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anybody get paid for "critics award" per day from comments ??  Smiley

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First off, I can't wait to get my hands on whatever design you end up going with.  This isn't incredibly inventive, just a collection of things I wish I could have had in previous miners.  Just FYI I transitioned from HD7950S->Jalapeno->Chili->Jupiter->S1->S2->S3->S5 so I have some experience.  Not as much as some of the veterans around here, but enough to have some recommendations.

I would love to see a sturdy, stackable miner with near-silent fans, and mounting options for wheels on the bottom.  The wheels would allow me to run it most of the time in my office/guest room, but be able to easily move it to the living room if someone is staying the guest room.  The silent fans would allow me to run it in the living room without my GF killing me!  I would love the design to have a compartment for 2 X 750W or 850W PSUs so I can use existing PSUs, to minimize cords, make it simple to move, and maintain a minimalist appearance.  The design would need to be sturdy enough that I could have 2 or 3 of them stacked to reduce clutter.  Ideally, it would end up looking like a compact space heater, in a similar form factor to an S2/S4.  During the winter, I would invest in another one or two to keep in the living room for heat.

I would like to see a miner optimized for a 15A breaker - approx. 1440W in North America if you are running at 80% load.  This would also allow me to use 2 of my existing 750/850W PSUs per miner, and in my office/guest bedroom I have 2 breakers.  Efficiency needs to be at least 0.245W/GH for SHA256 and 2W/MH for Scrypt.  I wouldn't dedicate any more than about 15% of total power to Scrypt mining. Ideally it would mine at approx. 5TH/S SHA256 and  110MH/S Scrypt for a price of $1200 USD each, which should allow ROI in about 90 days assuming a steadily increasing difficulty.

I would also like to be able to under/overclock the miner via software interface.  This would allow me to push it up about 10% while difficulty is lower, and underclock it to achieve better efficiency when difficulty rises.

On a board level, I would love to see 8 boards per miner, so each would consume about 153W, comfortably allowing a single PCIE connector per board.  This would work out to about 5-6 chips/board depending on efficiency. I would prefer air cooling, since it's cheaper and takes up less total space than water cooling.  As others suggested, it would be great to make individual boards replaceable, so they can be upgraded when the time comes.  Wifi is key, to eliminate the need for ethernet cables running to it, and maintain the minimalist space heater design - I know a few people already mentioned that.

Good luck!  If your final numbers end up close to these, I'll definitely be one of your first customers.


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I would like to see a modular miner where it can start at say 500GH and then you can buy cards and just keep adding cards and increasing the hashrate.
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Speaking IMHO, The best miner is like a good horse. Fast, energy efficient, good looking and stable;) short words SFARDS. BEST means more than good, BEST means that are wiling to hug your warm miner(horse) during cold winter nights with gratefulness for all that free heat and free monies. Best miner is your buddy:)
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i think your idea is too general , make it more specific like what should you do to make the energy more efficient.
what should you do to make the miner running fast like a good horse as you said.

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There is no need for impractical controversal toaster, I think re-use of wasted electric energy is the key. Big datacenters will have always cheaper electricity than home miners.

Why not use peltier coolers to generate electricity from heat? They can cool our miners and produce some energy.


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I don't know because everyone nominate peliter coolers, as far as I know they are costly and they have a very little efficiency.

I think that a better choice for recycle the heat energy would be using a stirling motor, after conversion u can use the mechanical energy i.e. to run a big fan

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/29/msi_stirling_cooling/



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