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Topic: SFARDS: Results of “Speaking IMHO”- The Best Miner is…Contest [Update 26/5/2015] - page 2. (Read 9702 times)

legendary
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Put an insurance on delivery time.

It could be optional, but when activated it have to cover all the losses due to an eventual delaying, and we all know that that's the biggest risk. I think that such an insurance would skyrockets the sells.

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legendary
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SFARD's is the merger of Gridseed and WiiBox. Gridseed produced the famous orb dual miner from last year (BTC and Scrypt).

As a previous owner of those Gridseed miners, I do have a number of technical observations, which should make the new miner more attractive to home users, who are most likely to accept a long ROI for these units e.g. SFARD's gets higher price per unit up front.

1st) the mining software for (dual mining) needs to be perfectly reliable for at least 7 days continuous dual mining. The Gridseed dualmining software would crash after 10-16 hours of usage. This meant, people abandoned dual mining mode and mined scrypt only. A guarantee on the dual mining software, to run for 7 days without needing to be reset would be a strong selling point.

2nd) producing Windows 7&8 pre-compiled versions of the mining software will be a strong selling point to newbie miners, who are least likely to use Linux and will want the miners to be plug and play on their desktop PC's.

3) Ensuring enough units are supplied to the European resellers like minereu.com and technobit.eu, it was almost impossible to get Gridseed dual miners in Europe. In fact: units were being resold on eBay for twice the price they were selling for in the USA. This was a lost revenue source for Gridseed's dual miners, but should SFARD's get the supply to the European market correct, it will be extra sales for very minimal work.

4) Ensuring the voltage resistors on the PCB are of a bigger size. Most of forums will be awash with resistor modifications, either to increase hash output or decrease electricity consumption. These resistors mods, will reduce SFARD's warranty liabilities for the after sale period.  Making them easier to do through using bigger voltage resistors for modders will be reducing wastage from replacing units under warranty. Modding invalidates warrantees. In fact: on ebay and forums people were selling modded Gridseeds and resistor swapping services.

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legendary
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Maybe a good design would be a 2 in 1: a "small" nuclear power generator, like the ones from the submarines, connected to the best miner outta there.
You'll install it in a cold remote place, you'll deliver power thru the power lines, you'll have to have internet thru the power lines too and you'll earn from hashing and from the extra power.
The people around you will not mind you create heat and, if you make a big mining facility, you'll be able to also provide (for another extra income) centralized heating to the town / village you'll locate this.

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Starting at a Chip Level, I want chips that can run at the highest thermal limit possible. This allows me to run more temperature differential across the surface, increasing heat transfer and increasing the number of chips for a given area.

Because of that, I think the Miners should be modular Liquid cooled 2 Slot PCI-E Cards (similar to BFL Monarch) with the highest power density possible. If desired, a liquid cooled case could be offered with a full size radiator embedded.

This allows the greatest flexibility because a home miner can install the card in an old tower along with GPUS, etc. or they can install a bunch of cards in a purpose built 2/4U rack miner. I am thinking power densities equivalent to spoondoolies in a purpose built case. Power Densities might be able to go higher because of liquid cooling.

Normally I would go with air cooling for simplicity and cost sake. However, I believe that if a liquid solution can be done well, it will be able to increase your available power density and thus decrease commercial cost. Also, by liquid cooling you decrease noise pollution in a home and can funnel the heat where it needs to go. This also then allows you to keep miners outside in a NEMA 3R/4X rack with an external radiator. You can also then use that heat to do other things like cogen, etc. With high DTs in the thermal process, you can recapture part of this value. This heat should not be negligible. You could heat a fish tank if you want Smiley

I believe you will be able to reduce the cost of the miner over the long term because you are using a standard PCI-E format. All Power Supplies, motherboards, CPUs are readily available as is the OS for running the miner (linux, pimp, windows, etc). Users would be able to configure their own interface, and the like as well as all backend monitoring.

This would also expand into third party developers buying cards and packaging in the most efficient design they know how to build. This would allow you, SFARDS, to just focus on chip development and heat exchanger design, which should be your core business. This would allow more rapid deployment because all you would supply is the cards. All other parts of the equipment could be reused. It would give you a platform to grow and expand.
legendary
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Miners are big and ugly and hard to color coordinate into homes and apartments.  They need to be made with adjustable outer plates that come in different colors so that they can be blended to match existing home decor.  Make outer plates that can easily be swapped out with a few screws or magnetic so that I can easily change the look of the miner to match my wallpaper or paint.

One of the biggest problems is the ugliness of the current miners (I mean we know they are beautiful, but wives despise the black box that just sits and takes up room), so make it able to change colors and/or provide other benefits.  Make one that can be an ottoman to put your feet up.  I can change the color to match my living room and no one would even know its a miner.
legendary
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my ideal miner would have 90 ROI, great efficiency and great reliability. at current BTC prices the antminer s5 with power supply is 242 day ROI. thats ridiculous. its just too damn long.

right now, 90day ROI is not likely. 150days is a more realistic target. anything >200days is risky.
hero member
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Fish tank heater?  Would need wifi, but would be a cool little device nonetheless.



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I would love this idea.  I have a small tank.  If my fish would swim around a miner that would be amazing.  Instead of star trek characters i would have to start naming them after bitcoin items Smiley

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Don't overclock too much or you cook the fish  Grin
sr. member
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Another most “controversial” design entry 

Solar mining... from space!   We have a satellite orbiting the sun for electricity.   It mines from space!   Sending it's hashing through freaking lasers.  Space and lasers!


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= Outer Space Asic Laser Miner

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this is big idea with big cost amount i think haha
its very possible to do what you said ,
the consequence is that you have to convince NASA to lend their satellites,
also you have to spend a lot of money,
and maybe with solar power through satellite from space could produce big hashrate,
big hashrate possibly mining all existing bitcoin .
it means bitcoin mined and catched by one person.
it means game over  Cheesy


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sr. member
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miner with chip that requires only 0.111 watts / GigaHash
multi connection - wifi, ethernet/LAN, USB and standalone.
additional features or mod-able
slim design to make it nice looks

just it and then will be the most efficient miner ever.


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hero member
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Add a faucet rotator into the miner, so that you can gain dust from faucets while mining.  If anything it will improve ROI figures.

For a faucet rotator u would require monitor, keyboard and time to do captcha's. Far best would be running a node, because u don't need an harware and you can get economic incentives from bitnodes

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Nice idea or we can go other way by setting to donate to fullnode.co to get few nodes up. Especially if you are mining just as a hobby.

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hero member
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Miner should have a Air conditioner in itself so it will keep the room cool while mining haha  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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legendary
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Add a faucet rotator into the miner, so that you can gain dust from faucets while mining.  If anything it will improve ROI figures.

For a faucet rotator u would require monitor, keyboard and time to do captcha's. Far best would be running a node, because u don't need an harware and you can get economic incentives from bitnodes

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legendary
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Add a faucet rotator into the miner, so that you can gain dust from faucets while mining.  If anything it will improve ROI figures.
full member
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my ideal miner would have 90 ROI, great efficiency and great reliability. at current BTC prices the antminer s5 with power supply is 242 day ROI. thats ridiculous. its just too damn long.
newbie
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There is no need for impractical controversal toaster, I think re-use of wasted electric energy is the key. Big datacenters will have always cheaper electricity than home miners.

Why not use peltier coolers to generate electricity from heat? They can cool our miners and produce some energy.

I like people who think about power saving. That's how I chose the components for my PC.

My ideal miner is user friendly & good at playing Minecraft & Manic Miner. I like components which have low power consumption & are powerful.

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hero member
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Solar panel around the miner and also wifi so we can place it in front of sun to save some electricity cost or if it is not possible a package of solar panel with the miner which can afford miner power consumption  Grin Grin

nowadays it it very expensive and usable for small miner like U3. You will waste a lot of energy at days with full sunlight and stop miner often during cloudy. Huge battery may help, but solution never ROI.
hero member
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Solar panel around the miner and also wifi so we can place it in front of sun to save some electricity cost or if it is not possible a package of solar panel with the miner which can afford miner power consumption  Grin Grin
legendary
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Fish tank heater?  Would need wifi, but would be a cool little device nonetheless.



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I would love this idea.  I have a small tank.  If my fish would swim around a miner that would be amazing.  Instead of star trek characters i would have to start naming them after bitcoin items Smiley

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Fish tank heater?  Would need wifi, but would be a cool little device nonetheless.



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newbie
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The best miner, IMHO...

Would be based on existing form factors, allowing the user to upgrade his/her
existing equipment without having to buy additional heatsinks, fans, and cases.

The company would decrease their time to market by not having to design and
assemble complete units, only replacement boards for existing models.

I would like SFARDS PCB's for the following models:

Zeus Blizzard
Zeus Hurricane
GAW Falcon
Gridseed all models

There is a huge market here. Reduced time to market, reduced engineering
costs and reduced shipping fees mean higher profits for such company and
it's customers.

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