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I understand you are looking for working with the best.

Absolutely. The worst thing is to spend half my working time explaining everything to another developer. It was then better to have not found a co-developer, i.e. the Mythical Man Month. The further up one is on the spectrum of programming capabilities, then more difficult it is to find someone to work with that won't consume more of your time then they can contribute to offset the communication load.

On the note of smooth, I understand he is brilliant, I read a few days ago his comment about the C compiler. He clearly knows what he is talking about.

Agreed that was illustrative.

He is most likely in the top 5 developers of this crypto jamboree.

If we are requiring algebraic geometry and number theoretic math, I would say there are several others who are far more expert than smooth or I (since neither of us know much about that sort of math).

If we are referring to server side coding, then agreed and more expert than me.

Smooth and I are both polygot with programming languages and I am not sure which of us knows more languages and knows them more intimately. I'd probably assume the nod goes to him as I assume he has been coding more than me since the turn of the century. Most of my very intense coding came before Dec. 1, 1999 when I lost the vision in my right eye.

If we are testing on logic, it is roughly equal although smooth is more eloquent.

If chess, clearly I suck and smooth was apparently holding up well in the chess games I observed. You can even include rpietila in the group who can solve game puzzles faster than I can.

If we are referring to theoretical concepts and invention, I think this is where I probably have an edge on smooth.

And if we are referring to GUI and B2C marketing, I think I am more interested and talented than smooth is likely more interested and talented than me in server side and B2B.

Edit: smooth is more balanced/grounded/steady than me. I am more of a high/low personality, which typically correlates with a high degree of creativity and artistic talent. I know how to be professional, but I don't focus on making sure every small thing I write is well thought out. I will perhaps do that for something very important. I am always more interested in the rush to the next idea and creative moment. Smooth is more focused on making every statement correct, concise, convincing on all facets and diplomatic. I am more like the stereotype of a Russian hacker who can come out of the blue with something that makes people kind of wonder where did he pull that out of his hat from, yet I am not solely pulling algorithmic insights out of my hat. My mind is all over the place on ideas and concepts in cross disciplines such as economics and sociology. Note smooth has also done this at times too, for example when he explained that nothing-at-stake gaming is akin to proof-of-work, because of the computational cost of playing that game. That was very insightful. I think it is his choice and priorities to not expend too much effort down too many theoretical dead ends, and to be more of a curator than an originator. Actually that is very wise, because most of the profit is made on distilling (sieving) the best minnows that become whales.

He deserves every cents he earns, and not to talk about his money, but generally speaking, could you explain what is the business model of Monero? I understand it was a (sort of) fair distribution so I have no issue with the project, the aims of the project privacy - regardless whether it is feasible or not - make sense and I am asking in the sense of what is their business model to generate revenue? Smooth rate is - as I heard - $20-30K per month which is more than the top contactor developer salary in the UK (£600-700/day). How the monero project can come up with such development budget? Angel investment, VC funding, selling the coin?

I also don't understand how smooth is justifying his involvement with CC. I don't think he is being paid. I have only two theories:

1. It is a labor of love for him to be able to interface with a community, since I presume he otherwise worked a lot in FinTech. Perhaps he sees it dovetailing with FinTech down the line and is positioning himself to be an expert. If his true opportunity cost is $20 - 30K per month, then perhaps he is looking for the $millions homerun opportunity. Or just not really worried about money and doing it for other goals/interests.

2. (Wild ass theory only!) He is actually a mole of the national security agencies and is keeping tabs on everything for them. (I don't really think this, but I have a difficult time understanding why smooth is working in CC and the fact he is anonymous).

I think the business model of Monero from smooth's viewpoint is to build a superior design than Bitcoin and over the long-term have a payoff as the best alternative to Bitcoin. So it isn't just for the anonymity, but also for the ASIC-resistant hash function, the tail reward, the automatic resizing of the block size, etc..

As I move more and more to working on varied aspects of my software project, it could become more and more likely something very interesting attracts top developers. But I have to actually accomplish something in code.

I am not limiting my sights on just working with people from CC. I am interested in working with any great developers from outside of CC as well. I originally thought that perhaps CfB was one of those potentially talented developers, which was one of the reasons I was not so interested in criticizing Iota (also because there are some technologically interesting bits in Iota, even if the overall design fails to really work without centralization, IMO). But iotatoken and CfB attacking me every time I posted something against ICOs, ended up sort of destroying the velvet glove approach.
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...the graveyard of crypto currency projects. However, please note the 10% chance is about 100% more than 99% of crypto projects (i.e. all BTC/LTC clones, NXT, IOTA, etc. ) have. You know better than anyone, nobody really cares about crypto currencies except this scam driven microcosmos, therefore the majority of these currencies are a dead end proposition.

I hope you understand why then my first priority is not on creating a crypto-currency (CC). Although my current software project JAMBOX does have the potential to incorporate a CC and I do have a design for a CC that I think will fix all the problems with the existing PoW designs, it is not my initial focus. I won't be working on the CC again for many months if not perhaps even until next year.

I feel more confident about my ability to stick my fingers in many pies and hopefully get stuck in one that finds a good market and is technically interesting. And that is one of the reasons I am looking at programming languages now.

I am not going to pigeon-hole myself in one corner of the Internet.
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Note smooth appears to be a very talented developer, but he is anonymous (even to me). And he has his focus on Aeon/Monero. And he apparently hails from FinTech which is a quite different field from the consumer apps markets I want to address and where my past talent is. Also I never wanted to involve smooth in something that could fail, because he has already a community that he enjoys and that depends on him. And smooth is incredibly expensive to hire. Of course I don't even mention other Monero devs and Bitcoin core devs, as they are of course busy on their projects.


I understand you are looking for working with the best.

On the note of smooth, I understand he is brilliant, I read a few days ago his comment about the C compiler. He clearly knows what he is talking about. He is most likely in the top 5 developers of this crypto jamboree. He deserves every cents he earns, and not to talk about his money, but generally speaking, could you explain what is the business model of Monero? I understand it was a (sort of) fair distribution so I have no issue with the project, the aims of the project privacy - regardless whether it is feasible or not - make sense and I am asking in the sense of what is their business model to generate revenue? Smooth rate is - as I heard - $20-30K per month which is more than the top contactor developer salary in the UK (£600-700/day). How the monero project can come up with such development budget? Angel investment, VC funding, selling the coin?
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They have completed their project which will be bigger than Bitcoin is.

Impressive. I'm looking forward to testing your prediction. How long would you say is a fair time period?


LoL I was just maybe too excited about their software. I am happy with what the developers have delivered. I always said there is only 10% chance that the Gadgetcoin developers can make it. Most likely the venture will disappear in the graveyard of crypto currency projects. However, please note the 10% chance is about 100% more than 99% of crypto projects (i.e. all BTC/LTC clones, NXT, IOTA, etc. ) have. You know better than anyone, nobody really cares about crypto currencies except this scam driven microcosmos, therefore the majority of these currencies are a dead end proposition.
Anyway, I am more and more optimistic that Gadgetcoin/GadgetNet will make it. I predict in a year time they will have more active users than Bitcoin. Their use cases determines the project for success, permit the developers keep the project on the right track.


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I am just a speculator  Roll Eyes

How does Monero propose to resolve the fact that it's blockchain is growing faster than Moores Law and pruning is so limited?

Human populations don't grow faster than Moore's law. Duh.

Disk arrays scale to anything we can fathom.

The issue is that no block chain consensus can maintain decentralization of validation, not because of scaling problems but because of the fundamental economic reality that not every miner can have an equal share of the hashrate, thus verification costs are not shared equally. The creates an asymmetry where economies-of-scale will maximize profit and grow hashrate the fastest thus centralizing mining.

The solution requires some clever innovation on proof-of-work.
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the only thing you did with this post was argue that cut and choose is vulnerable for economic reasons, you didnt solve a single thing or even offer solutions

Read that cut & choose thread over and over until you understand it. You do not understand the solution I provided.


Sigh.  Cry

If anyone can think of a solution at the conceptual level (never mind what block chains currently offer), I would love to read it.

So far decentralized exchange looks to be jammable in every design I've contemplated.

further strengthening my argument, that your role is that of a spectator

It is disingenuous (or Dunning-Kruger ignorance) to quote something in the middle of a discussion that was invalidated by the discussion that followed.



your other 7500 posts

My TPTB_need_war and AnonyMint accounts have more than 12,000 posts combined.

can you start a thread dedicated to armstrong and your predictions about the markets?  

There is already a Martin Armstrong thread in the Economics forum.

There isn't one thread dedicated to my timing calls on markets. I am not wanting to start a newsletter. That is not my vocation.

Most of my macro economics predictions are mentioned in the Martin Armstrong, Economic Devastation, and Economic Totalitarian threads in the Economics forum.
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They have completed their project which will be bigger than Bitcoin is.

Impressive. I'm looking forward to testing your prediction. How long would you say is a fair time period?

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your other 7500 posts

My TPTB_need_war and AnonyMint accounts have more than 12,000 posts combined.

can you start a thread dedicated to armstrong and your predictions about the markets? 
sr. member
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IMHO you made a mistake to not working with the Gadgetcoin developers. Are they as knowledgeable and articulated as you are? No, they aren't, but they are hard working developers. They have completed their project which will be bigger than Bitcoin is. Even if you are not keen on IoT, the IoT aspect of their solution took them to many top 100 companies. That gives them credibility to make other features (token, social media, communication features) popular. The social media aspect of their project is inline with your social media ambition. You need to compromise on toolset, people, environment, etc. to get somewhere. If you are chasing the perfect environment you will get nowhere. You still have 15 years until retirement, use that time wisely!

My career has not been about working with large companies. My career has always been about producing applications that consumers use. Thus I think I should stay focused where my talent has been already demonstrated. And yeah, after thinking about it, I am not interested in IoT. No passion for me whatsoever on that. Passion is very important to succeeding on a project. I am very passionate about JAMBOX. I think I can change the world with it possibly.

I am always looking for talented developers to work with, but another factor is that too many cooks can spoil the effort especially when there is stock or a crowdfund to divvy up. My goal right now is to find one other developer who is as talented or more so than me and this should come after the crowdfunding if that raises enough money to pay a top salary.

And my other goal is to open source much of the work, so I can work with many developers in the open source model.

I don't know if I can achieve this. We will see...

Note smooth appears to be a very talented developer, but he is anonymous (even to me). And he has his focus on Aeon/Monero. And he apparently hails from FinTech which is a quite different field from the consumer apps markets I want to address and where my past talent is. Also I never wanted to involve smooth in something that could fail, because he has already a community that he enjoys and that depends on him. And smooth is incredibly expensive to hire. Of course I don't even mention other Monero devs and Bitcoin core devs, as they are of course busy on their projects.

Also frankly, unless there is an exceptional candidate that convinces me otherwise, I prefer a USA co-developer if possible on JAMBOX. For the open source collaboration, no such strong preference of course. But for whom I need to share the money with and need to work very closely with, I think the cultural differences mean I would likely be most compatible with a developer from the USA.

So for now, I don't know who will be my key co-developer. Hopefully he/she will come to me at the right time. I need to demonstrate more code and momentum first.
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Nice topic you got here TPTB.

Any thoughts on Lisk?

I have made a decision not to investigate any new coin projects, because then I would feel compelled to release my findings, which would mire me in more time wasting defenses against trolling and ad hominem attacks.

But you can probably safely assume it is another shitcoin in the mold of Ethereum. But I really don't want to enter more of these battles. I am trying to get my own software development and startup work moving at a faster pace.
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One thing that might help, is to understand how other terms are used instead of the perhaps more familiar "hashtag".  It is just a content identifier.  You will find this represented by other terms, like "channels", "syntactic entities", or terms specific to pi-calculus like "persisted queues", or even the word "network", as this does not apply to "gods-eye" perspectives here - so these sub-groups are most typically defined by a topic, or keyword.

So in short, Greg is using a private language for technobabble.

That is sure helpful for peer review.  Roll Eyes

Well, if you don't understand something, maybe I can help?  You are the only one saying it's "technobabble" - which just means you don't recognize it.  I understand it just fine.  Content management, including "hastags", is sophisticated, and thorough in Synereo.  Your "hashtags" are not left out, even though that concept does not appear in Twitter-language form.

And yes, you will find the same expressions in peer-reviewed papers, textbooks, etc.

TPTB_need_war will never admit that he really isn't that smart.


You think all "ICOs" are manipulation.

I am confident they are ILLEGAL if publicly marketed to USA investors.

And no those weren't just my opinions. You will always try to distort what I wrote. How about you just state what you think about Synereo and stop trying to tell readers what I said. They can read my posts to see what I wrote.

Greg @ Synereo is avoiding explaining all the specification and technology to us in terms we can understand. No excuses you can make for that which are valid. He is selling AMPs and not giving us information we can verify. That is an illegal prospectus. If Synereo didn't sell AMPs to the public, Greg et al would have no obligation to explain the technology in detail to us in terms we can understand and verify.

Edit: it is rather useless if I go expend my scarce time to become an expert in process calculi so that I could find game theory flaws in Synereo's process calculi approach to their hyped Attention Model feature. Because it would still be an asymmetric information market for the investors, as then they would be required to trust either my conclusions or Greg's (Synereo's). The only solution is for Greg to do proper disclosure by explaining the technology in terms that all AMP investors can understand. They have the time to produce a very exquisite website and consume hours every week on video Hangouts that do hyped handwaving on technical details, then they should also have enough time to explain the technology in sufficient detail that we can analyze without requiring us to become one of the few process calculi researchers on earth.
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That seems to be reasonably accurate.

There are of course many people on this earth with a higher IQ than myself. They could think faster than me on some mind twisting puzzle especially one that is timed. My long-term memory is not as vast as someone like Eric S. Raymond.

On conceptual analysis and especially in the areas which I am currently interested and very experienced, there will be few here on this forum who can out think me.

Math is a vast field and no one can master all of it anyone (well maybe a 1 in a million 200 IQ can). I have less training/study in higher maths than many people. I can learn math and I did for example ace Calculus at college at night, while I was in high school. But coming age 51, in a rush to apply myself to a software startup, battling an illness, being nearly bankrupt, etc..... then there isn't any available time (nor scarce energy to give) for me to pursue math study at this juncture in my life.

Also note that before 8th grade, I have been moved around to various inner city public schools, sometimes two schools in one year, such that my education was stunted until 8th grade. In 8th grade, my father enrolled me in a private school Ecole Classique and I blasted off taking Algebra 1, Latin, etc.. But it was late. If I had received the resources in elementary and middle school, then I would have likely been a math whiz taking college courses at a very early age. I demonstrated this sort of early capability as there are photos of me in diapers and I am already constructing things. And at age 5, I spontaneously helped my father design the wooden platform be for his VW bus (which is subsequently used to leave us and go to Belize with his gf which became his 2nd of 3 wives).

The summer between 7th and 8th grade, I was required to read roughly a dozen books, the classics. That is when it became apparent that I am fast voracious reader with very high reading comprehension.

Also note I am since 1999 blinded in one of my eyes, thus another handicap I have now in terms of visual work such as reading.

As for rubbing people the wrong way, I've always been sort of an impatient person because I have more things I want to do than I can do. I can be patient in spurts or especially in a personal setting that is a priority for me. But there is no way I can relate to the 1000s of people on this forum with perfect grace and couth at all times, especially not in such an acrimonious environment as the altcoin arena where everyone is batting for their vested investments.
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I will just tell you that I have decided I don't want to live with this illness. If it can't be cured, I don't want to live long like this. That is how crap it is. Now I have possibly a cure with the Oregano oil. We'll have to see. I think I also need a lifestyle change which is to complete stop the computer and be outside all day every day. But how can I do that and also code. So this is dilemma I am currently sorting through what my action plan will be. I'd rather not detail my thinking on this. More wasting time. I am in midst of many aspects right now.

That sounds a bit depressing. Yes it seems you need a lifestyle change. The issue is that usually you go off in public that you need a radical change and then you go back to your normal routine to exists in the hopeless Philippines and upset yourself in this forum.

IMHO you made a mistake to not working with the Gadgetcoin developers. Are they as knowledgeable and articulated as you are? No, they aren't, but they are hard working developers. They have completed their project which will be bigger than Bitcoin is. Even if you are not keen on IoT, the IoT aspect of their solution took them to many top 100 companies. That gives them credibility to make other features (token, social media, communication features) popular. The social media aspect of their project is inline with your social media ambition. You need to compromise on toolset, people, environment, etc. to get somewhere. If you are chasing the perfect environment you will get nowhere. You still have 15 years until retirement, use that time wisely!



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so it seems to me that you are unable to contribute in a meaningful way, ie code



It is unfair to say TPTB_need_war can't code or unable to code. Is he unproductive? Most likely yes, - for many reasons - he is unproductive, but he understand software development. Unlike the children of this forum who rolled out the several hundreds absolutely meaningless BTC and LTC shitcoin clones, TPTB_need_war understands what are the challenges is software design.

I have never talked to him in private except a few PMs here and I talked to him a lot in public, but from those conversation as well as from his post about software development it is clear that he is a very experienced software engineer. Anybody who ever coded any software, worked in software projects and were sitting in meeting discussing software design and implementation understands that. You can't pick up such knowledge what from the air and by releasing shits by forking BTC and modifying a few variables in the code base. To have the knowledge he has, an individual have to had work hard on serious software in the past.

I have disagreement with him from time to time, but saying that he can't code is just inaccurate.

 

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Sorry that I take the "I will show you/My project will be superior/I solved anonimity/My project will make everything else look like shit/etc." claims seriously. My bad.

I am of the impression that you don't understand the experimental character of the altcoin discussions. Most notably threads that are tagged with 'vapor' as an act for caution's sake should have helped you understand that there have not been any claims of having any project completed.  Just as a footnote, not a single cent has ever been raised and Shelby's entire participation on Bitcointalk is free for us to read, which I find astonishing. This is bang-up information combined with great thoughts and remarks on the forefront of cryptographic innovation.
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[TPTB who spends weeks spamming on this forum.

What have you contributed to this forum or accomplished in the crypto scene that makes you throw the stones?

I'm a forum user and a project investor, never stated anything else. Problem here is when you promise something that you never deliver and talk down people according to that.

I have not promised to complete any project. My project's thread title says "vaporware" and I have made it very well known I am battling an illness and my progress would be highly dependent on the outcome of that.

Sorry that I take the "I will show you/My project will be superior/I solved anonimity/My project will make everything else look like shit/etc." claims seriously (that you are leaving in almost every projects thread you visit). My bad.
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[TPTB who spends weeks spamming on this forum.

What have you contributed to this forum or accomplished in the crypto scene that makes you throw the stones?

I'm a forum user and a project investor, never stated anything else. Problem here is when you promise something that you never deliver and talk down people according to that.

I have not promised to complete any project. My project's thread title says "vaporware" and I have made it very well known I am battling an illness and my progress would be highly dependent on the outcome of that.
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[TPTB who spends weeks spamming on this forum.

What have you contributed to this forum or accomplished in the crypto scene that makes you throw the stones?

I'm a forum user and a project investor, never stated anything else. Problem here is when you promise something that you never deliver and talk down people according to that.

To say something positive aswell, if he would turn his promises into actions, I would surely invest my money into the project.
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[TPTB who spends weeks spamming on this forum.

What have you contributed to this forum or accomplished in the crypto scene that makes you throw the stones?
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Were you pointing the checkpoint solution out to them in the posts or have you found a different way, if so please elaborate. Smiley

Checkpointing wasn't my solution. My solution was an economic one. Try to re-read my posts there.
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